Civic Type R EP3
Discussion
greenarrow said:
aaron_2000 said:
I found mine hard to shift at around £2k, it was clean with 124k on the clock. Didn't like the people who were interested in it either.
How long ago was this? I'd have been interested in a clean EP3 at that price!!I took mine to work the other day and then had to make a 10 mile open and well-sighted B road route to another location in a hurry. Had forgotten how much fun they can be. But they ask for a lot of input. Driving a type r at 8 tenths is OK but 10 tenths is amazing.
If you are the sort that likes to change down to 6000 rpm as you enter a corner, and exit, front wheels just on the edge of scrabbling, at 8000rpm, then change up and run out to 8000 again, then this is the car for you.
If that all sounds a bit like hard work then a contemporary Golf GTI will do everything else better and is very nearly as fun.
If you are the sort that likes to change down to 6000 rpm as you enter a corner, and exit, front wheels just on the edge of scrabbling, at 8000rpm, then change up and run out to 8000 again, then this is the car for you.
If that all sounds a bit like hard work then a contemporary Golf GTI will do everything else better and is very nearly as fun.
TheJimi said:
Assuming you're halfway handy, ten tenths on the road in an EP3 is...well, you'd be moving, that's for sure.
Well I guess it depends on definition of "ten tenths". I was accelerating as fast as it would go but there was a safety margin in cornering and braking compared with against the clock on a track. I suppose i meant "ten tenths for the road". But 8000rpm is not much more than 60 in second so in terms of outright speed it isn't that fast. Personal definitions really.
I'd define ten tenths as as going all out in terms of available braking, grip and acceleration.
Which is why I always raise a eyebrow when someone refers to going ten tenths on the road in a competent motor, especially over a sustained period of time.
I'd define ten tenths as as going all out in terms of available braking, grip and acceleration.
Which is why I always raise a eyebrow when someone refers to going ten tenths on the road in a competent motor, especially over a sustained period of time.
Edited by TheJimi on Friday 15th February 14:28
I gave the wrong impression. How about:
"I took mine to work the other day and then had to make a 10 mile open and well-sighted B road route to another location in a hurry. Had forgotten how much fun they can be. But they ask for a lot of input. Driving a type r at 8 tenths is OK but you have to be really wringing its neck for it to really come alive which is both its strength and its weakness.
If you are the sort that likes to change down to 6000 rpm as you enter a corner, and then exit, front wheels just on the edge of scrabbling, at 8000rpm, then change up and run out to 8000 again, then this is the car for you. Obviously if you then allow yourself to get carried away and keep working up through the gears you'll go too fast, but braking hard, cornering fairly hard then accelerating as fast as you can will always be fun.
If that all sounds a bit like hard work then a contemporary Golf GTI will do everything else better and is very nearly as fun. "
By the way, it was the changing down several gears on the way in that made it feel "10 tenths". Corners that I would normally take in second, exiting in the middle of the rev range, were now being taken in first at the top of the rev range. (and some that would have been in third were now in second...) but I don't suppose the actual cornering speed was much higher than normal. It just feels frenetic because of the brake, change down, change down again, corner, accelerate, change up, change up again, brake, change down ... nature of the driving a type r fast.
"I took mine to work the other day and then had to make a 10 mile open and well-sighted B road route to another location in a hurry. Had forgotten how much fun they can be. But they ask for a lot of input. Driving a type r at 8 tenths is OK but you have to be really wringing its neck for it to really come alive which is both its strength and its weakness.
If you are the sort that likes to change down to 6000 rpm as you enter a corner, and then exit, front wheels just on the edge of scrabbling, at 8000rpm, then change up and run out to 8000 again, then this is the car for you. Obviously if you then allow yourself to get carried away and keep working up through the gears you'll go too fast, but braking hard, cornering fairly hard then accelerating as fast as you can will always be fun.
If that all sounds a bit like hard work then a contemporary Golf GTI will do everything else better and is very nearly as fun. "
By the way, it was the changing down several gears on the way in that made it feel "10 tenths". Corners that I would normally take in second, exiting in the middle of the rev range, were now being taken in first at the top of the rev range. (and some that would have been in third were now in second...) but I don't suppose the actual cornering speed was much higher than normal. It just feels frenetic because of the brake, change down, change down again, corner, accelerate, change up, change up again, brake, change down ... nature of the driving a type r fast.
Edited by Norfolkandchance on Friday 15th February 15:47
TheJimi said:
I’m honestly not picking holes dude!
As you say, it’s a definition / usage of term thing. Taking away the “ten tenths” bit makes a huge difference in terms of meaning, and for what it’s worth, I totally get what you were trying to get across – and I agree :-)
I didn't think you were. I was just worried that I had condoned driving that I would see as dangerous. Nobody should be cornering as fast as they can on the road because every know and again you'll get it wrong. Even Lewis Hamilton gets it wrong every now and again. (And he's nearly as good as me!)As you say, it’s a definition / usage of term thing. Taking away the “ten tenths” bit makes a huge difference in terms of meaning, and for what it’s worth, I totally get what you were trying to get across – and I agree :-)
traffman said:
I owned a Black Ep3 pre facelift for 9 years , and when we sold it , i missed it so much that eventually i purchased another. This is the Premier edition with all the fancy bits.
I would say avoid anything thats been messed around with. It will never match your requirements and you'll need to spend money to revert it back to original .
I have bought a few bits for mine , it was/is standard , 7 owners , full Honda History and no damage.
i am slowly bringing back up to the standard i am happy with. The steerings not bad , to be honest i can hardly tell the difference between the earlier Ep3 and this. Maybe less notchy.
Cpl lowered the vtec band and raised the limiter. It now revs hard aaaall the way. I love it.
Oh man this is my old civic, Miss this thing so much 
I would say avoid anything thats been messed around with. It will never match your requirements and you'll need to spend money to revert it back to original .
I have bought a few bits for mine , it was/is standard , 7 owners , full Honda History and no damage.
i am slowly bringing back up to the standard i am happy with. The steerings not bad , to be honest i can hardly tell the difference between the earlier Ep3 and this. Maybe less notchy.
Cpl lowered the vtec band and raised the limiter. It now revs hard aaaall the way. I love it.
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