NSX?

[35secToNuvolari]

http://www.nsxfiles.com/fcar.htm

here's the direct link to the 355/NSX comparison.

[NoelWatson]

35secToNuvolari said:

http://www.nsxfiles.com/fcar.htm

here's the direct link to the 355/NSX comparison.

An EVO road test of 2002 NSX and rivals

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/2580...

Note the steering comments!

Edited by NoelWatson on Wednesday 1st August 09:07

[PJ S]

35secToNuvolari said:

http://www.nsxfiles.com/fcar.htm

here's the direct link to the 355/NSX comparison.

He's a bit shit with Photoshop!
Every one of those pictures were totally wrong in colour, and I'm sure Ferrari aren't too pleased to see their Rosso looking Pink.

[ferrisbueller]

NoelWatson said:

35secToNuvolari said:

http://www.nsxfiles.com/fcar.htm

here's the direct link to the 355/NSX comparison.

An EVO road test of 2002 NSX and rivals

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/2580...

Note the steering comments!

Edited by NoelWatson on Wednesday 1st August 09:07

Never seen that before. Thanks Noel.

[flemke]

NoelWatson said:

35secToNuvolari said:

http://www.nsxfiles.com/fcar.htm

here's the direct link to the 355/NSX comparison.

An EVO road test of 2002 NSX and rivals

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/2580...

Note the steering comments!

WRT the steering comments, the car's steering has a lower ratio than those of the other cars in the test. Whether that it a good thing depends on the sort of driving that you do. It's slow if you're looking to apply opposite lock, which happens to a good driver on the public roads maybe...once every five years? So not terribly important, but it is a taste thing - fair enough.

As for the comment about it being "heavy", I have a lot of respect for Richard Meaden, so I'll have to assume that he was driving a duff car. If he had been driving a proper example, he could not have thought that.
There is no way at all that the recent cars' steering is too heavy.

[kinetic]

Yep, I had a 95 model with PAS and the steering was very slow for a sports car and 'loaded up' heavily mid corner which I think is what Meaden is refering too. I recall finding it strange at first but then got used to it. You'd have though they would have sorted it on later cars but obviously never did.

[NoelWatson]

kinetic said:

Yep, I had a 95 model with PAS and the steering was very slow for a sports car and 'loaded up' heavily mid corner which I think is what Meaden is refering too. I recall finding it strange at first but then got used to it. You'd have though they would have sorted it on later cars but obviously never did.

kinetic,

This is exactly how they summed it up in the Autocar 2002 handling test. NSX came 5th, but they said the steering had a habit of loading up just when you didn't want it to - however as Flemke pointed out, how often will the typical owner be doing power slides.
More annoying to me is when I'm maneuvering into my garage and it feels like I'm driving a yank tank such is the level of over assistance. As I stated previously the steering feel is not as good as my (more humble) previous cars and I guess the steering stands out as the rest of the package is so sharp.

[NoelWatson]

Another few publications/road tests

http://www.teamhondaturkey.com/forum/s2000nsx_apna...
http://www.lotusespritworld.com/ERoadtests/Perform...
http://www.lotusespritworld.com/ERoadtests/S4_auto...

This book has lots more (but is not exhaustive)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acura-Honda-NSX-Performanc...

[p-car]

I can see where some of these road test comments regarding weighting up under cornering load are coming from my as '97 (Type S) is not light at higher cornering speeds.

The '97 MY 3.2/6spd cars came with "refined" electronic power steering control designed to improve steering response and feel.

Noel, I haven't driven an earlier EPS car for a while but maybe it helped a fair bit? Personally I don't have any problem with the very light steering at parking speeds (surely this what you need) and it weights up and starts to provide some feel as soon as you're much above jogging pace.

The NSX had a then unique "compliance pivot" designed into the front double wishbone setup. This allowed for very precise control of the suspension geometry through it's range of movement minimising bump steer. Allied to this the EPS has a "damper" function built into the control unit to further reduce any big deflection and sharp kickback in theory leaving a perfectly filtered version of what's going on under the front wheels. The last comment is certainly debatable!

My experience of it on typically bumpy UK B roads is that you can carry speed very comfortably with the steering wheel moving gently in your hands and no kickback. Certainly it's dramatically differant to my previous 993 Carrera which, even though it had PAS, was a handful down the same road at the same or more likely slower speed. It certainly had plenty of feel, not all of it good!

I guess it's upto each individual as to what we like/prefer.

Seany88, yes I do remember taking you out at Dono. I think you said it was the heavy braking that made you feel sick? Thanks for not barfing in the car :-)

Flemke, I'll PM you details of a couple of trimmers that might be able to do the seat cushion for you.
F.Y.I I stumbled across standard Recaro SPG spare cushions available to order new from FVD in Germany. They'll be finished in Black Nomex but wouldn't look too out of place as is and at just 49 Euros they might be worth a try?

I can confirm that the seat cushions in my old Recaro PP/SPG's were a lot thinner than the ones fitted to the NSX version of the PP/SPG in our cars but not that they're any better than the Sparco ones you mention as I haven't tried them. I will say that they they weren't uncomfortable for me.

FVD webpage here...
http://shop.fvd.de/?VID=304197&VCD=10466918&am...

Cheers

Mark