NSX?

[stephen300o]

Those figures are a joke, I know for a fact my old 92 will do at least 165, and I think road&track got a sub five second 0-60 time

[havoc]

No way is it 5.8s to 60...the S2000 is clearly quicker than that, and the S2000 doesn't feel like an NSX.

Did they have an automatic?!?

[flemke]

Sport Auto Nordschleife times:

355 - 8:18
NSX (old version with 3.0) - 8:38
NSX/R - 8:08

The later NSX feels about as fast as a 355.
It doesn't matter; they're both fast enough. The main difference is that the 355 is a bucket of shit.

[madras]

flemke said:

Sport Auto Nordschleife times:

355 - 8:18
NSX (old version with 3.0) - 8:38
NSX/R - 8:08

The later NSX feels about as fast as a 355.
It doesn't matter; they're both fast enough. The main difference is that the 355 is a bucket of shit.

[PJ S]

flemke said:

Sport Auto Nordschleife times:

355 - 8:18
NSX (old version with 3.0) - 8:38
NSX/R - 8:08

The later NSX feels about as fast as a 355.
It doesn't matter; they're both fast enough. The main difference is that the 355 is a bucket of shit.

Don't hold back flemke, call it as you see it.

[ALawson]

flemke said:

Sport Auto Nordschleife times:

355 - 8:18
NSX (old version with 3.0) - 8:38
NSX/R - 8:08

The later NSX feels about as fast as a 355.
It doesn't matter; they're both fast enough. The main difference is that the 355 is a bucket of shit.

[TrackDemon]

stephen300o said:

Those figures are a joke, I know for a fact my old 92 will do at least 165, and I think road&track got a sub five second 0-60 time

Indeed. My old '95 pulled a laser verified 160mph @ Bruntingthorpe with a little left to come.... As Flemke says its 'quick enough'.

[NoelWatson]

Jules360 said:

Guys... i know this is a Honda site, but get real...

Autocars test data .......

F355
0-30 : 2.1 secs
0-60 : 4.6 secs
0-100 : 10.6 secs
30-70 : 3.8 secs
30-50 in 3rd/4th : 3.4 / 4.8 secs
40-60 in 4th / 5th : 4.3 / 6.0 secs
50-70 in 5th : 5.6 secs
Max 173mph

NSX
0-30 : 2.3 secs
0-60 : 5.8 secs
0-100 : 13.7 secs
30-70 : 4.9 secs
30-50 in 3rd/4th : 4.5 / 6.4 secs
40-60 in 4th / 5th : 8.4 / no data
50-70 in 5th : 8.4 secs
Max 159mph

And NO, it doesn't feel even nearly as quick !!

Edited by Jules360 on Tuesday 3rd July 15:04

I posted this a while ago

From Autocar

0-60 0-100 30-70 Top Speed
NSX (2002) 4.8 10.9 4.0 172
355 4.6 10.6 3.8 173
355 F1 4.7 10.8 3.8 170

the 2002 facelifted in 2002 appeared to be a lot quicker - it may have been a ringer.

[ferrisbueller]

NoelWatson said:

Jules360 said:

Guys... i know this is a Honda site, but get real...

Autocars test data .......

F355
0-30 : 2.1 secs
0-60 : 4.6 secs
0-100 : 10.6 secs
30-70 : 3.8 secs
30-50 in 3rd/4th : 3.4 / 4.8 secs
40-60 in 4th / 5th : 4.3 / 6.0 secs
50-70 in 5th : 5.6 secs
Max 173mph

NSX
0-30 : 2.3 secs
0-60 : 5.8 secs
0-100 : 13.7 secs
30-70 : 4.9 secs
30-50 in 3rd/4th : 4.5 / 6.4 secs
40-60 in 4th / 5th : 8.4 / no data
50-70 in 5th : 8.4 secs
Max 159mph

And NO, it doesn't feel even nearly as quick !!

Edited by Jules360 on Tuesday 3rd July 15:04

I posted this a while ago

From Autocar

0-60 0-100 30-70 Top Speed
NSX (2002) 4.8 10.9 4.0 172
355 4.6 10.6 3.8 173
355 F1 4.7 10.8 3.8 170

the 2002 facelifted in 2002 appeared to be a lot quicker - it may have been a ringer.

It would be fair to say that mine feels not a million miles away from those numbers. In independant trials it has proven to be as well.

[zuffenhausen74]

Interested in the bucket of shit comment..I have never driven a 355 but was considering one at the money they are at....Why are they so bad?

[ferrisbueller]

zuffenhausen74 said:

Interested in the bucket of shit comment..I have never driven a 355 but was considering one at the money they are at....Why are they so bad?

Flemke isn't a fan of Ferrari.

[zuffenhausen74]

Fair enough....It is the car you want to own and that's not always objective...coupled with the fact I have never driven one!

[flemke]

ferrisbueller said:

zuffenhausen74 said:

Interested in the bucket of shit comment..I have never driven a 355 but was considering one at the money they are at....Why are they so bad?

Flemke isn't a fan of Ferrari.

Quite so, but, trying to be somewhat objective:

The build quality of current Ferraris is pretty good. Not great, certainly not proportional to the price of the cars, but it's pretty good. (Just over the weekend I was reminded of an OEM supplier of a very key component on the Enzo, who said that Ferrari selected the absolute cheapest version of his company's product that they thought they could get away with. He also said that, for the CGT, Porsche ordered the absolute best version of the same thing.)

Anyhow, in the '00s Ferrari build quality has been pretty good.
In the '80s, Ferrari build quality was dreadful.
The 355 was a transitional car, the first one made during the de Montezemolo era, designed when they realised as an organisation that they had to get their act together, but before they knew how to do that.

Put an NSX and a 355 with equal mileage next to each other and compare the condition, compare how the doors shut and the windows move and the solidity of the steering wheel and how well the A/C works and whether they need new cambelts or a clutch or bushes.
Then come back and tell us what you think.

[madras]

Fair commnets flemke, but the F355 is still a great car to drive, steering feel is not very good. It's certainly not a bag of ****, and it looks gorgeous. What do you make of the 550?
(I know this is Honda forum, apologies)

Anyone know the fastest recorded 0-60 and 0-100mph times for an original NSX? I've seen 5.3 in 1994 car

[trackdemon]

madras said:

Fair commnets flemke, but the F355 is still a great car to drive, steering feel is not very good. It's certainly not a bag of ****, and it looks gorgeous. What do you make of the 550?
(I know this is Honda forum, apologies)

Anyone know the fastest recorded 0-60 and 0-100mph times for an original NSX? I've seen 5.3 in 1994 car

NSX' have been recorded sub 5 seconds 0-60mph in some mags, and as far out as 5.7 seconds in others..... neither should be replicated by an owner with any interest in the long term integrity of their vehicle (just like the 355's sub 5 time)

[flemke]

madras said:

Fair commnets flemke, but the F355 is still a great car to drive, steering feel is not very good. It's certainly not a bag of ****, and it looks gorgeous. What do you make of the 550?
(I know this is Honda forum, apologies)

I liked it enough to have spent a lot of money on a couple of them. If I needed that kind of car today, I might still have one.
Not hugely different from the 355. A half generation newer, so more sorted, but still there were a number of build quality shortcomings that were inexcusable in a car costing north of 150 grand.

[zuffenhausen74]

Fair enough....Mclaren Mercedes for me then....just means saving up for a bit longer!!!!

[stephen300o]

zuffenhausen74 said:

Fair enough....Mclaren Mercedes for me then....just means saving up for a bit longer!!!!

Don't you mean Mclaren BMW

[ferrisbueller]

stephen300o said:

zuffenhausen74 said:

Fair enough....Mclaren Mercedes for me then....just means saving up for a bit longer!!!!

Don't you mean Mclaren BMW

I have it on good authority that the SLR is a bag of shit.

[ferrisbueller]

flemke said:

madras said:

Fair commnets flemke, but the F355 is still a great car to drive, steering feel is not very good. It's certainly not a bag of ****, and it looks gorgeous. What do you make of the 550?
(I know this is Honda forum, apologies)

I liked it enough to have spent a lot of money on a couple of them. If I needed that kind of car today, I might still have one.
Not hugely different from the 355. A half generation newer, so more sorted, but still there were a number of build quality shortcomings that were inexcusable in a car costing north of 150 grand.

He's gone to the dark side?? Is Lord Vader also your father?!

I find it intriguing that you had a lapse Flemke. Did the 550 spark an interest and liking for the brand or has the apparently more deep seated hatred emerged victorious?

Back OT, how is the Type-R coming on?