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havoc

30,097 posts

236 months

Thursday 5th July 2007
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ferrisbueller said:
Back OT, how is the Type-R coming on?
ears

Oh yes?!? Very interested to hear more here...

NSX Type R, I'm guessing as it's Flemke...or is it one of the more 'affordable' ones?!?

dinkel

26,965 posts

259 months

Thursday 5th July 2007
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NSX is tasty . . . Way better buy than a Rari.

Check Youtube for that Senna testing vid. bow

ferrisbueller

29,344 posts

228 months

Thursday 5th July 2007
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dinkel said:
NSX is tasty . . . Way better buy than a Rari.

Check Youtube for that Senna testing vid. bow
This one?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAwJsOECGBU

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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ferrisbueller said:
Back OT, how is the Type-R coming on?
It's fine.

Not much to say, really. It's got good grip, the balance is nice, the steering too.
Not sure what sort of power the engine produces, as it is masked by the short gearing. Would have to drive it in Germany to have better sense of outright power, but have not had the chance yet to do that.
Lovely engine note - typical Honda sound, with an added growling menace.
Suspension is hard, which is alright, although it feels like the rear dampers should be softer in rebound, as you get a sense of lost contact after compression.
I've not tried it on a circuit, although I suspect that the brakes wouldn't be up to the task.
Have replaced the wheels, as the original size tyres are not readily available, and one wouldn't want them anyway.
The carbon/kevlar seats unique to the R have nice shells, but the cushions are too thick. Have not been able to find thinner replacements.
The original "Senna" gearshift knob was much too short; I cannot imagine what they were thinking. I've raised that, and may change it.

Those are the things that come to mind.

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

243 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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stephen300o said:
Those figures are a joke, I know for a fact my old 92 will do at least 165wink, and I think road&track got a sub five second 0-60 time
I assume the 159 was done at Millbrook - I seem to remember Autocar saying that to convert to a top speed on the flat add 1mph for every 10mph over 100, so in this case giving around 164. Honda state 175mph for the 2002 models, 170 for the 1997-2002 - I'm not sure about pre '97.
I will hopefully be able to get to Bruntingthorpe for a VMax this summer to see what my 2004 model will do

havoc

30,097 posts

236 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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flemke said:
It's fine.

Not much to say, really. It's got good grip, the balance is nice, the steering too.
Not sure what sort of power the engine produces, as it is masked by the short gearing. Would have to drive it in Germany to have better sense of outright power, but have not had the chance yet to do that.
Lovely engine note - typical Honda sound, with an added growling menace.
Suspension is hard, which is alright, although it feels like the rear dampers should be softer in rebound, as you get a sense of lost contact after compression.
I've not tried it on a circuit, although I suspect that the brakes wouldn't be up to the task.
Have replaced the wheels, as the original size tyres are not readily available, and one wouldn't want them anyway.
The carbon/kevlar seats unique to the R have nice shells, but the cushions are too thick. Have not been able to find thinner replacements.
The original "Senna" gearshift knob was much too short; I cannot imagine what they were thinking. I've raised that, and may change it.

Those are the things that come to mind.
Nice to have a more considered view than the journos, thanks! thumbup

Re: suspension...Honda must need a couple more good chassis engineers...the S2000 rear springs/dampers aren't perfectly in tune either, as you get a slight-to-moderate sideways pitching motion (rear only) when cornering (very) hard on rough tarmac.

ferrisbueller

29,344 posts

228 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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flemke said:
ferrisbueller said:
Back OT, how is the Type-R coming on?
It's fine.

Not much to say, really. It's got good grip, the balance is nice, the steering too.
Not sure what sort of power the engine produces, as it is masked by the short gearing. Would have to drive it in Germany to have better sense of outright power, but have not had the chance yet to do that.
Lovely engine note - typical Honda sound, with an added growling menace.
Suspension is hard, which is alright, although it feels like the rear dampers should be softer in rebound, as you get a sense of lost contact after compression.
I've not tried it on a circuit, although I suspect that the brakes wouldn't be up to the task.
Have replaced the wheels, as the original size tyres are not readily available, and one wouldn't want them anyway.
The carbon/kevlar seats unique to the R have nice shells, but the cushions are too thick. Have not been able to find thinner replacements.
The original "Senna" gearshift knob was much too short; I cannot imagine what they were thinking. I've raised that, and may change it.

Those are the things that come to mind.
Great stuff. I'm sure you are aware of the options as far as brake upgrades are concerned so won't patronise you!

If you want rid of that gearknob I may be able to give it a good home wink

PJ S

10,842 posts

228 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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flemke said:
The carbon/kevlar seats unique to the R have nice shells, but the cushions are too thick. Have not been able to find thinner replacements.
The original "Senna" gearshift knob was much too short; I cannot imagine what they were thinking. I've raised that, and may change it.
Have you looked at the Zanardi gearknob as an option?
What about Vision or Bride seats? Vision does Carbon/Kevlar.

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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PJ S said:
flemke said:
The carbon/kevlar seats unique to the R have nice shells, but the cushions are too thick. Have not been able to find thinner replacements.
The original "Senna" gearshift knob was much too short; I cannot imagine what they were thinking. I've raised that, and may change it.
Have you looked at the Zanardi gearknob as an option?
What about Vision or Bride seats? Vision does Carbon/Kevlar.
I've got one of those Zanardi gearshift knobs. It may be better than the Senna thing, but in relation to what would be correct it is a bit too big in diameter and it is quite heavy, so the throw is less pleasant.
I'd rather not change the seat shells. I just need to find somebody who can supply and shape a simple slab of semi-rigid foam.

Cheers.

dinkel

26,965 posts

259 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-7662325404...

GanSan assume's the S2000 does the Ring quicker than the NSX R . . . True?

stephen300o

15,464 posts

229 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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dinkel said:
http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-7662325404...

GanSan assume's the S2000 does the Ring quicker than the NSX R . . . True?
Well I have to bow to his superior knowledge and say, his talking bolloxbiggrin

Seany88

1,245 posts

221 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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flemke said:
PJ S said:
flemke said:
The carbon/kevlar seats unique to the R have nice shells, but the cushions are too thick. Have not been able to find thinner replacements.
The original "Senna" gearshift knob was much too short; I cannot imagine what they were thinking. I've raised that, and may change it.
Have you looked at the Zanardi gearknob as an option?
What about Vision or Bride seats? Vision does Carbon/Kevlar.
I've got one of those Zanardi gearshift knobs. It may be better than the Senna thing, but in relation to what would be correct it is a bit too big in diameter and it is quite heavy, so the throw is less pleasant.
I'd rather not change the seat shells. I just need to find somebody who can supply and shape a simple slab of semi-rigid foam.

Cheers.
Wasn't there an article about a company that did this exact thing a little while ago? Did it for many ?lotus(es) to make them more comfortable yet were thin material.

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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Seany88 said:
flemke said:
PJ S said:
flemke said:
The carbon/kevlar seats unique to the R have nice shells, but the cushions are too thick. Have not been able to find thinner replacements.
The original "Senna" gearshift knob was much too short; I cannot imagine what they were thinking. I've raised that, and may change it.
Have you looked at the Zanardi gearknob as an option?
What about Vision or Bride seats? Vision does Carbon/Kevlar.
I've got one of those Zanardi gearshift knobs. It may be better than the Senna thing, but in relation to what would be correct it is a bit too big in diameter and it is quite heavy, so the throw is less pleasant.
I'd rather not change the seat shells. I just need to find somebody who can supply and shape a simple slab of semi-rigid foam.

Cheers.
I cannot recall seeing that, but would love to know their name.

Cheers.

Wasn't there an article about a company that did this exact thing a little while ago? Did it for many ?lotus(es) to make them more comfortable yet were thin material.

Seany88

1,245 posts

221 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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Just been searching, think this was it: www.nubax.com

I think they're standard equipment in Exiges now, not sure if they do one-offs and its not the original company I was talking about but may still help.

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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dinkel said:
http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-7662325404...

GanSan assume's the S2000 does the Ring quicker than the NSX R . . . True?
As a man more famous than myself once said, NFW.

In the clip, this chap's BTG time was 8:17. Add on the necessary 27-ish seconds for the straight and you've got 8:44.

Sport Auto's reference time in a production car was 8:39. If you assume that the SA lap was, as usual, without the 3 second bit near T13, that gets you up to 8:42.
Considerably more than NSX/R, or even 3.2 standard.

Seany88

1,245 posts

221 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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Just to add that yes that is the company I was talking about, think they changed their website since though. Probax is the design of the seat aimed to give better posture etc also.

PJ S

10,842 posts

228 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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flemke said:
PJ S said:
flemke said:
The carbon/kevlar seats unique to the R have nice shells, but the cushions are too thick. Have not been able to find thinner replacements.
The original "Senna" gearshift knob was much too short; I cannot imagine what they were thinking. I've raised that, and may change it.
Have you looked at the Zanardi gearknob as an option?
What about Vision or Bride seats? Vision does Carbon/Kevlar.
I've got one of those Zanardi gearshift knobs. It may be better than the Senna thing, but in relation to what would be correct it is a bit too big in diameter and it is quite heavy, so the throw is less pleasant.
I'd rather not change the seat shells. I just need to find somebody who can supply and shape a simple slab of semi-rigid foam.

Cheers.
Ah, but wouldn't you want to change seats, then you can put the OEM back in if/when you sell it?
Just a thought.

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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PJ S said:
flemke said:
PJ S said:
flemke said:
The carbon/kevlar seats unique to the R have nice shells, but the cushions are too thick. Have not been able to find thinner replacements.
The original "Senna" gearshift knob was much too short; I cannot imagine what they were thinking. I've raised that, and may change it.
Have you looked at the Zanardi gearknob as an option?
What about Vision or Bride seats? Vision does Carbon/Kevlar.
I've got one of those Zanardi gearshift knobs. It may be better than the Senna thing, but in relation to what would be correct it is a bit too big in diameter and it is quite heavy, so the throw is less pleasant.
I'd rather not change the seat shells. I just need to find somebody who can supply and shape a simple slab of semi-rigid foam.

Cheers.
Ah, but wouldn't you want to change seats, then you can put the OEM back in if/when you sell it?
Just a thought.
I'm afraid that I don't drive it enough to justify such an effort.
I'm just hoping to get a thinner piece of semi-rigid foam to slip into the fabric case.

PJ S

10,842 posts

228 months

Friday 6th July 2007
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Fair play.

AR

861 posts

225 months

Friday 13th July 2007
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flemke said:
PJ S said:
flemke said:
The carbon/kevlar seats unique to the R have nice shells, but the cushions are too thick. Have not been able to find thinner replacements.
The original "Senna" gearshift knob was much too short; I cannot imagine what they were thinking. I've raised that, and may change it.
Have you looked at the Zanardi gearknob as an option?
What about Vision or Bride seats? Vision does Carbon/Kevlar.
I've got one of those Zanardi gearshift knobs. It may be better than the Senna thing, but in relation to what would be correct it is a bit too big in diameter and it is quite heavy, so the throw is less pleasant.
I'd rather not change the seat shells. I just need to find somebody who can supply and shape a simple slab of semi-rigid foam.

Cheers.
Hi mate just to let you know the Zanardi gearknob will not work with the NA1 NSX-R shift stalk as this has a female thread.

After selling my NSX-R and getting a regular one the things I missed the most were the shifter and the steering wheel. I set out to change them and was successful with the steering, but had to buy a shifter mechanism and adapt it to the R.

Here is a little write up of whatr I did.

http://nsxcb.co.uk/testvb/showthread.php?t=3157

Cheers,

AR