Roll call - October 8/9 - Nurburgring and Spa
Discussion
Lee b said:
I will be catching the ferry on Friday night, and making my way down to the ring for Saturday afternoon, it will be my first time there but I'm really looking forward to it. I'm going to try to get out on Sunday before the trackway on Monday.
I'll say hi if I see you, should be easy to spot you in a KTM!Let me know if you fancy meeting up for pizza at www.pinocchio-adenau.de on Saturday evening.
ukkid35 said:
I'll say hi if I see you, should be easy to spot you in a KTM!
Let me know if you fancy meeting up for pizza at www.pinocchio-adenau.de on Saturday evening.
Would be good to meet up, there is a group of us going but we are staying at different hotels, I will be staying at the Linder congress & Motorsport hotel. You won't be able to miss us with a race shuttle with Ktm racing down the side.Let me know if you fancy meeting up for pizza at www.pinocchio-adenau.de on Saturday evening.
Hope to meet some new faces over there
Cheers lee
Dogmeat said:
Heading out Sat morning to Ring
TF Ring Sat
TF Ring Sun
apologies in advance for raising this issue yet again but i had a call a few weeks ago from a UK driver. his car dropped fluids during a TF session. biker immediately went down on the fluids and the police attribute the biker's accident to the car driver. he's now looking at a £20,000 bill. so, a word of caution, you'd be daft to drive there with an Admiral/Bell/Elephant insurance policy or the vast majority of UK insurance policies. hire a nurburgring rental car or face the prospect of a massive bill if goes wrong. TF Ring Sat
TF Ring Sun
agtlaw said:
apologies in advance for raising this issue yet again but i had a call a few weeks ago from a UK driver. his car dropped fluids during a TF session. biker immediately went down on the fluids and the police attribute the biker's accident to the car driver. he's now looking at a £20,000 bill. so, a word of caution, you'd be daft to drive there with an Admiral/Bell/Elephant insurance policy or the vast majority of UK insurance policies. hire a nurburgring rental car or face the prospect of a massive bill if goes wrong.
Note that excess on ring hire cars can be more than that, R26R is 15k, so drive carefully.supertouring said:
agtlaw said:
apologies in advance for raising this issue yet again but i had a call a few weeks ago from a UK driver. his car dropped fluids during a TF session. biker immediately went down on the fluids and the police attribute the biker's accident to the car driver. he's now looking at a £20,000 bill. so, a word of caution, you'd be daft to drive there with an Admiral/Bell/Elephant insurance policy or the vast majority of UK insurance policies. hire a nurburgring rental car or face the prospect of a massive bill if goes wrong.
Note that excess on ring hire cars can be more than that, R26R is 15k, so drive carefully.The R26R is awesome my the way. I've hired it before. Enjoy!
apart from the exhaust note... thats just weird.
Edited by Porkie on Friday 21st September 12:12
Question to all you regulars of Ring and Spa. I have the option of fitting brand new Cups (purchased) or fitting PS2 which have around 1000 miles of wet road work on them.
I am tempted to cut my losses and go with PS2 but would be a little pissed if the sun was splitting the trees and I have a new set of cup at home.
None of the guys going to DN6 and Spa have room to carry my tyres, was willing to pay but all the space is used so will need to commit one way or another.
Lindsay
I am tempted to cut my losses and go with PS2 but would be a little pissed if the sun was splitting the trees and I have a new set of cup at home.
None of the guys going to DN6 and Spa have room to carry my tyres, was willing to pay but all the space is used so will need to commit one way or another.
Lindsay
LindsayMac said:
Question to all you regulars of Ring and Spa. I have the option of fitting brand new Cups (purchased) or fitting PS2 which have around 1000 miles of wet road work on them.
I am tempted to cut my losses and go with PS2 but would be a little pissed if the sun was splitting the trees and I have a new set of cup at home.
None of the guys going to DN6 and Spa have room to carry my tyres, was willing to pay but all the space is used so will need to commit one way or another.
If it is dry you most definitely will want the Cups (I will be fitting a new set of them to mine before this trip). If it is damp then that will be okay. If it is wet then you will however really wish that you had the PS2s. The issue is that for both circuits we are talking about as unpredictable as weather gets so there will be an element of luck one way of the other. To some extent it depends on how quick you are going to be lapping. If unfamiliar with the circuits and going at a brisk learning speed then the PS2s will be fine (I did several trips to the 'ring on PS2s in my previous car {996gt3}). However, I personally overheat them a little past half way around a second lap of a stint at the 'ring so if it isn't wet they would seriously detract from my day. Your mileage may of course vary. I've only ever done Spa on cups in the 997, but am confident that in the dry I would overheat PS2s in not much time. I am tempted to cut my losses and go with PS2 but would be a little pissed if the sun was splitting the trees and I have a new set of cup at home.
None of the guys going to DN6 and Spa have room to carry my tyres, was willing to pay but all the space is used so will need to commit one way or another.
Porkie said:
supertouring said:
agtlaw said:
apologies in advance for raising this issue yet again but i had a call a few weeks ago from a UK driver. his car dropped fluids during a TF session. biker immediately went down on the fluids and the police attribute the biker's accident to the car driver. he's now looking at a £20,000 bill. so, a word of caution, you'd be daft to drive there with an Admiral/Bell/Elephant insurance policy or the vast majority of UK insurance policies. hire a nurburgring rental car or face the prospect of a massive bill if goes wrong.
Note that excess on ring hire cars can be more than that, R26R is 15k, so drive carefully.The R26R is awesome my the way. I've hired it before. Enjoy!
apart from the exhaust note... thats just weird.
Edited by Porkie on Friday 21st September 12:12
I am so looking forward to the R26R, the videos on YouTube show it is a very quick car around there. I hope I can do the car justice.
Surely it's all about how you quantify and perceive "risk" both 1st and 3rd party.
Unless I'm very much mistaken the basic situation is no known UK insurer will now cover TF days as stated earlier. Thus leaving you with 1st party risk up to the maximum of whichever is the highest of: your cars value, repair cost or finance value. When uninsured your 3rd party risk is unlimited.
A track hire car caps your 1st and 3rd party liability to the maximum of the excess and no more.
It is a basic balance between unlimited liability for what is a fairly rare event or capped liability. I can't see a situation involving a third party where the liability with a hired car is predictably greater than that with your own uninsured car.
Unless I'm very much mistaken the basic situation is no known UK insurer will now cover TF days as stated earlier. Thus leaving you with 1st party risk up to the maximum of whichever is the highest of: your cars value, repair cost or finance value. When uninsured your 3rd party risk is unlimited.
A track hire car caps your 1st and 3rd party liability to the maximum of the excess and no more.
It is a basic balance between unlimited liability for what is a fairly rare event or capped liability. I can't see a situation involving a third party where the liability with a hired car is predictably greater than that with your own uninsured car.
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