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Dommett

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78 posts

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I'm looking to buy a car for the track, but keep road legal, something that has a standard 4 cylinder 2.0 normally aspirated engine (or smaller capacity) and is quick/handles in factory spec, so doesn't require much fettling smile
Must be around 10 - 15 years old so modern, but not too expensive and can be purchased for under £5k.

My ideas so far are:
Ford Focus ST170 (Mk1)
Honda Civic Type R
Honda Integra Type R
Peugeot 306 GTI6
Peugoet 206 GTI 180

Love to hear some other ideas.

paulshears

679 posts

83 months

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mk2 Golf GTI
mk2 Seat Ibiza Cupra Sport
Clio 172/182

motor mad

355 posts

75 months

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The 306 GTi or either Honda would be a great shout.

sumo69

1,587 posts

106 months

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Clio 182 Cup - no question.

Dommett

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78 posts

62 months

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paulshears said:
mk2 Seat Ibiza Cupra Sport
Just found this for the Seat - http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=162&i=260... should imagine given its kerbweight, it would be pretty quick.

I also meant to add if there's any special editions of cars that could be sourced with racing style bodykits or homologation specials that came with trick parts (suspension, bodykit, lsd etc) as standard.
Another that I saw was the Citroen Xsara VTS which I've seen with the WRC bodykit, but not sure if it was ever sold like that?

Want it to be quick, but also want it to look like a race car without adding non-standard bodykits.
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s1rallyemark

141 posts

66 months

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Make a clio cup car, once you've got the gearbox the rest shouldnt be to hard.

Terzo204

272 posts

42 months

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sumo69 said:
Clio 182 Cup - no question.
Totally agree with this. Plenty around at good prices too.

Sigmamark7

122 posts

47 months

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I have an 05 Clio 182 cup which I paid £3 grand for and which I have just put £750 worth of gaz suspension on. I also have a GT3 which I paid nearly £70 grand for. The Porsche is fast and brilliant - the Renault is hillarious and epic. The Clio goes to work and back on a daily basis with no fuss whatsoever and on track with some 888s on some spare rims, is as fast as some really expensive machinery, so for trackdays it is the Renault every time.
Go and try one on the road and if you are not impressed, you aren't trying hard enough!

The Tea Boy

3,993 posts

121 months

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Honestly not taking the pcensoredss but what about a mk1 mx5turbo? Can be had for less than 5k. Quick reliable and handles well. Great for road track and race smile

Matt

The Tea Boy

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121 months

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Honestly not taking the pcensoredss but what about a mk1 mx5turbo? Can be had for less than 5k. Quick reliable and handles well. Great for road track and race smile

Matt

Efbe

6,205 posts

52 months

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have you looked into the different engine size brackets? best to find a car that comes in just under them.

The Tea Boy

3,993 posts

121 months

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Honestly not taking the pcensoredss but what about a mk1 mx5turbo? Can be had for less than 5k. Quick reliable and handles well. Great for road track and race smile

Matt

Dommett

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78 posts

62 months

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The Clio 172/182 sounds good, i have no doubt they handle well and are rapid, but my mum drives a Clio, it's tiny!
Also, I have been racing a Clio Williams and fancy something a bit larger.

As for the mx5, again great idea, if I wanted a soft top, it would be the Honda s2000, but I want more of a btcc look a like kind of car.

Oilchange

3,210 posts

146 months

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A cheap 147 with enough spare cash for some spare wheels/888's and some other tweeks.

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

VX Foxy

3,484 posts

129 months

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Dommett said:
Also, I have been racing a Clio Williams and fancy something a bit larger.
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What series have you been racing in?
Why are you bothered what it looks like,? I would have thought the cars on track dynamics would be top of the list, not the size of the wheel arches!
IMO something rwd would be much more satisfying on track. BMW of some kind would be my choice.

Dommett

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VX Foxy said:
What series have you been racing in?... BMW of some kind would be my choice.
I guess from your profile you're a BMW person smile

I did use a BMW 325 (E30) a couple of years back in the CTCRC and I agree with you, but I want a 2.0 for class entry eligibility and that precludes competitive BMW's to be honest.

I want it road legal to allow me to simply (and uncomfortably!) get to driver training/skid-pan and track days, as I've felt in my first three years of racing that I've had little on-track time when you add up qualy & race, and I could do with making more use of the vehicle.
And being road-legal (along with my vanity) I simply want it to be a good looking car that I can be proud of.

So, Clio is on the list, but Honda Civic or Integra Type R is top right now.
The Alfa 146 looks the part (if only it was the dreamy looking GTA!) but is a bit short of horsepower.

I was hoping to find a special edition that had just the right spec, somebody did say Honda made a detuned Euro Accord with the 2.0 Type R engine from the Civic instead of the 2.2 that we got, but I can't find anything about it, might have been a myth.

Spankey Monkey

2 posts

45 months

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Rover BRM.

Dommett

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78 posts

62 months

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Spankey Monkey said:
Rover BRM.
Interesting, that reminds me of the MG ZR 160, effectively the same car with a few more horsepower, not sure if it has the same diff, but they seem to have their own championship and look quite good with all the bodykit trinkets.
About 200kg lighter than a type r according to Wikipedia.
Thanks

silverthorn2151

4,196 posts

65 months

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MG ZS 180.

More than 2.0 being a 2.5V6 but great value and great on track.

Cheap as chips too.

Pumajay

555 posts

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ford puma 1.7 ive been using a puma forthe last 4 years and its brilliant, can feel like it lacks a little bit of power at times but it more than makes up for it with the way it handles, plus you can pick them up for as little as £300 now.

plus theres plenty of tuning/handling uprages for them
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