a link to these road car days....Road Car Trackdays

a link to these road car days....Road Car Trackdays

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bikerstu

Original Poster:

160 posts

145 months

Friday 26th October 2012
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Ok so i phoned them yesterday

they told me my car was ok, even with the cage and that the 888's would be ok too will take them but might not use them as knowing my luck the weather will be crap! I have to drive the car to the circuit which is a pain as its a trek but not the end of the world i guess.

I'm going to Oulton smile

Will let you know how i get on!

gtdc

4,259 posts

283 months

Friday 26th October 2012
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Madgit said:
gtdc said:
Which will be so easy to police.
How would I prove I am not the same person as my namesake who is quite a successful driver?
Not that I'm attending.

These days are supposed to be for novices, there are plenty of days for more experienced drivers.
My sarcasm was lost!

There's no way of policing it - just a marketing gimmick.

HokumPokum

2,051 posts

205 months

Friday 26th October 2012
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these are not novice days. there are proper novice days.

These are road car days. I am not a novice yet I turn up at such an event

bikerstu

Original Poster:

160 posts

145 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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have you been on one before?

gtdc

4,259 posts

283 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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Actually, now I've thought about it. Stu, you are a biker, you don't need such a gentle thing as a novice day. Put your man bits back on and come out to play.

braddo

10,427 posts

188 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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spyderman8 said:
All drivers should be checking their mirrors before turning in anyway.
Why is that relevant for track days if no-one (other than at RMA) is supposed to be diving up the inside?

I would have thought it's more important at a track day to be checking mirrors ASAP after corner exit.

juansolo

3,012 posts

278 months

Tuesday 30th October 2012
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Handy to check your mirrors regardless as no-one has yet to implement a working 'no aholes' policy. Which is really what everyone would like rather than trying to ban a class of driver or car.

gtdc

4,259 posts

283 months

Wednesday 31st October 2012
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juansolo said:
Handy to check your mirrors regardless as no-one has yet to implement a working 'no aholes' policy. Which is really what everyone would like rather than trying to ban a class of driver or car.
In the olden days, when we used to take bookings on the telephone or by post (with a cheque - younger readers ask your father what these are) it was much easier to detect the cock. You could tell from the writing often, or if not that then the strange stains on the application form. If a cock was on the phone he would be unable to hide his cockness.

What we really need is a list of questions to be completed online before a booking is accepted. Gone are the days when car type would do it. Lots of really civilised people have really wky names so you can't use that now. You can't see Burberry down the internet line so my scope is limited. I get a 45 second window when I sign people on - there's a small chance to cull a mouth breather there but you'd be horrified. Some of them look quite normal.

Perhaps the definitive list of the cock could be compiled on the forum?

spyderman8

1,748 posts

156 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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gtdc said:
If a cock was on the phone he would be unable to hide his cockness.
Had to laugh when an email from LinkedIn told me that "Melindi has added a skill: Customer Service".

gtdc

4,259 posts

283 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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spyderman8 said:
gtdc said:
If a cock was on the phone he would be unable to hide his cockness.
Had to laugh when an email from LinkedIn told me that "Melindi has added a skill: Customer Service".
Yup - it's the service I do you by trying to cull the cock before the day.

Porkie

2,378 posts

241 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Thanks Melindi! made my afternoon smile V funny!

Road car trackdays. Seems like good marketing to me. Get some different customers in that dont wanna be on track with super fast race cars.

Good luck to em I say... I am total MSV/Palmer Fanboi though!



braddo

10,427 posts

188 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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I like the idea that it would filter out the cheap sheddy 'track slags' and their owners who push too hard because their cars are disposable.

Porkie

2,378 posts

241 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Olivera said:
Good idea. However I did turn up at an MSV 'novice' day a few years ago at Cadwell, only to see people unloading Lotus 2-Elevens and track BMWs from trailers!
Yes... thats wrong IF they are experienced trackdrivers...

As Johnny said though, you can be a novice in a track focused and quite quick car. My sister and mum borrowed my ExigeS to do a novice day once for example.

I think it should be policed properly... and they do try. I rang up MSV and tried to book a novice afternoon at Brands and the guy recognised my name and laughed. I said I was not gonna drive much and it was mainly as a present for someone else to drive in my car etc. etc... They wouldnt let me.

So they do try and keep it sensible.

I think its great that MSV are looking at ways at getting more people on track to enjoy the hobby that we all love.... good marketing and thinking and I hope it works and its policed properly so that they make money and the drivers enjoy it as well

Thats kinda down to the people as well though isnt it... I mean I know that I am pretty quickish on some tracks and have some quickish cars that are 100% road legal. But it wouldnt be fair going to the day and coming up fast on some beginners in their pride and joy etc.

There are plenty of days to choose from for me to enjoy. So let the people who dont go on the normal trackdays enjoy their time as well.




Edited by Porkie on Friday 2nd November 07:46

HokumPokum

2,051 posts

205 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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+1..

and I have been to a road car day

I like them. But I would like them more if atoms and caterhams and such type of cars are not allowed on road car days. Think I draw the line at elises. But that is my opinion. It may or may not work in terms of what MSV is after and how they may maximise the potential number of people turning up (in the long run).

Still, it is a good effort and a step in the right direction.

F355spider

1,395 posts

231 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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Doing my first track day this month ... and i have a GT3.

Previously had a couple of Challenge Stradales etc and have been too afraid of binning them and /or keeping up with the costs of tyres etc.


mattdaniels

7,353 posts

282 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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HokumPokum said:
ideally all track days should be group according to cars:
Couldn't disagree more. It's down to the attitude of the driver not the capabilities of the car.

Jerry Can

4,443 posts

223 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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shim said:
Caged gt3 drivers can still be novices.....and knobs....or both.
interesting that you say they can be a novice and a knob, or just a novice or just a knob. can they be neither?/ probably not. hehe

juansolo

3,012 posts

278 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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mattdaniels said:
HokumPokum said:
ideally all track days should be group according to cars:
Couldn't disagree more. It's down to the attitude of the driver not the capabilities of the car.
^This. Which is why segregating cars will never work.

_Neal_

2,658 posts

219 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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HokumPokum said:
I like them. But I would like them more if atoms and caterhams and such type of cars are not allowed on road car days. Think I draw the line at elises.
I don't really follow your logic at all - surely what MSV is after here is making trackdays less intimidating for newcomers who want to track their road cars, effectively extending Bike Magazine's "reclaim our tracks" campaign (which excluded non-road-legal bikes and any bikes that weren't ridden to the track) run in conjunction with MSV.

I have a Caterham that's running R888s, but it's fully road legal, and I've driven it to and from both trackdays I've done in it so far. It's a road car that does trackdays, and just because it's a Caterham doesn't mean it's fast/intimidating for other trackday users, and it's certainly not with me at the wheel!

For me, and as people are saying above, it's about driving standards and attitude rather than what kit you turn up in.

gtdc

4,259 posts

283 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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_Neal_ said:
For me, and as people are saying above, it's about driving standards and attitude rather than what kit you turn up in.
That.

Couldn't have put it better.