trailer storage

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Timbuk2

1,953 posts

155 months

Tuesday 15th April 2014
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How is he going to put the BMW on the trailer without it being attached to the BMW to stop it tipping up.

Edit: Unless he has another car with a towbar or it has those fancy drop down supports!

PS I have a Brian James "Fixer upper" which I'm planning on putting on eBay soon, I paid £600 a few years ago for it and would be looking for about £500. It doesn't tow much differently from my £2500 new one but could do with new lights/painting and two new wheels/tyres.

Trailers hold their value very well for some reason!





Edited by Timbuk2 on Tuesday 15th April 16:53

stranger12

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14 posts

154 months

Tuesday 15th April 2014
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I think that is too small for 328 saloon smile

Timbuk2

1,953 posts

155 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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Definitely not, I bought it from a Landrover dealer to tow my car home with when I bought the Landy and it can carry 2.5 tonnes. He'd had Range Rovers and 110's on it etc.

The angle of the photo makes it look short but it's really not.

I've had, my Evo, a Jeep Cherokee, my 530i and others on it no problems smile

I'll be measuring it before it goes on eBay anyway, just trying to help.






stranger12

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154 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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nice.

I would be interested then . my bmw is around 4.4 meters long measuring from bumper to bumper.

If you could pm me with your location and the condition of trailer and what it has/hasn't we might have a deal .


stranger12

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14 posts

154 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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my bmw is also 1.7 meters in width .
I appreciate if you could give me the external measurements so that i can check with a friend and find out if it fists in their garage .
is it possible to remove the tow pole ? I think his garage size is 5.2 by 2.4 , could try to lift it up or tilt to fit in but again would imagine it will be really heavy. it would be a great help if I could take the pole off

does it have a sticker confirming how much it could tow etc ?

what is the model called if you know so could check it up on their website

Edited by stranger12 on Wednesday 16th April 13:33

Timbuk2

1,953 posts

155 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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I will get you some info next week as I'm off for a track day this weekend, it's not stored at my house so need to go and check.

Cheers,

(Trailer is near Hereford.)

Tim

stranger12

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14 posts

154 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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was that hereford or hertford? I am in london just trying to work out if I would be able to travel that far

Timbuk2

1,953 posts

155 months

Wednesday 16th April 2014
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Hereford!

Timbuk2

1,953 posts

155 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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This is the plate, I've no idea if it's the correct one as it mentions a single axle and mine is definitely double!

I also have no idea what model this trailer is as it is probably quite old and I don't know how you'd find out. I could try ringing Brian James if you're interested.



The trailer dimensions are:

Overall width 2300mm, Overall length 5600mm (5300mm possible if unbolting tow bar socket)

Internal load measurements: width 1870mm and length 4270mm

The rear "door" can be folded down or removed entirely if your car is so low it can't clear it (approx 5 inches tall)

You can see the Evo fits on fine and that has a Parkers listed length of 4490 mm but the rear easily clears the little fold up door.

Cheers,

Tim

QBee

20,984 posts

144 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Daft thought - is there any way you could tax and insure the track car and drive it to the circuit?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Timbuk2 said:
This is the plate
That's just the hitch.

Timbuk2

1,953 posts

155 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Oh right well that's the only one I can so it needs re plating then.

custardkid

2,514 posts

224 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Get a decent trailer, that's Ifor or BJ, and look after it and it won't depreciate.

14ft BJ is just right for an E36
With your two car I'd be looking at a basic club man as this will be 400-500 kg
Your car stripped will be c1300-1400kg, 1500-1600kg trimmed

This will get you with in your 2ton limit

Most larger, or beefier trailers are 600-900kg
Which will mean you are exceeding your 530d legal plating

I had a Vectra estate plated to 2ton, but switched to a touareg with 3.5 ton limit and levelling air suspension, because the trailer wagged the car.
The touareg is much much more stable, even at speeds that aren't sensible

You can get tow ball post to put into the ground, park the hitch against a wall, hitch lock, wheel clamp, and track car on top, then it'll be difficult to nick!
But if some one really wants it then they will find away


Timbuk2

1,953 posts

155 months

Sunday 27th April 2014
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custardkid said:
Get a decent trailer
I'll agree with that, my honest advice is don't bother with mine and get something more modern with all the lights and everything in good working order. Like custardkid says they hardly depreciate at all.

At least you won't look like you've just nicked your track car then, which is surely what I used to look like towing an Evo with a rust Transit and dodgy trailer biggrin

Now I'm a high roller with a shiny trailer and old Cherokee instead.

custardkid

2,514 posts

224 months

Sunday 27th April 2014
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Timbuk2 said:
I'll agree with that, my honest advice is don't bother with mine and get something more modern with all the lights and everything in good working order. Like custardkid says they hardly depreciate at all.

At least you won't look like you've just nicked your track car then, which is surely what I used to look like towing an Evo with a rust Transit and dodgy trailer biggrin

Now I'm a high roller with a shiny trailer and old Cherokee instead.
No offence intended, I'm sure your trailer is mechanically solid wink


stranger12

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14 posts

154 months

Monday 28th April 2014
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@custardkid
With your two car I'd be looking at a basic club man as this will be 400-500 kg,
sorry to clarify does basic club man means basic frame ?


@Timbuk2
sorry for the delay getting back to you. I checked the place and a bit far from me .
apologies for this and thank for the help so far!!

custardkid

2,514 posts

224 months

Monday 28th April 2014
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Hi
The clubman is the Brian James model.
Although it looks like it's been replaced by the c2/c4
http://www.brianjames.co.uk/pdf/C2C4BluepricelistU...

You'll need a 4.5m trailer
And these are all now coming over 600kg

custardkid

2,514 posts

224 months

Monday 28th April 2014
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As you can see here:
http://www.indespension.co.uk/b2c/img/literature/C...


The older clubman and A-sport 2ton trailers weighed less than 500kg, giving a 1,500+ load.
And were significantly cheaper!

tehguy

178 posts

131 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Got any farms around your area? I know someone who pays £15 a month to store a small caravan at a local farm, it's under shelter too. They will store things outside of shelter for £10 a month too (just put a cover on it!).

If you are going to buy a trailer, your best bet is to buy something brand new, or used from a trailer hire place. They are always replacing their stock so you can pick up some very nice trailers. The problem with trailers in this country is that so many are in very bad condition, since we do not yet have MOT's for trailers as in a lot of Europe. People don't realise how important it is to service and maintain trailers, and they fall into very bad condition. Most of the car transporter trailers I've seen on ebay/etc look awful, broken mudguards, rusted drawbars, faulty electrics etc. For a decent twin axle braked transporter you need to pay upwards of £1000 to ensure you get a good one. Bear in mind that Brian James A-max are over £2500 brand new.

If you buy a recovery truck can you drive it? All but the very smallest are over 3.5T gross weight so you'll need category C1 on your driving licence to drive them, if you passed after 1997 you will need to take an extra test to get this

BullyB

2,344 posts

247 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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Interesting thread:
I'm in the same boat really as I either have to insure, tax and MOT my E36 or get a trailer.

I was thinking I could store the trailer with the car on top at a caravan storage place.
I was looking at one near Donington Park the other day that is very secure:

Standard plots (maximum 23ft) are:
£360-00 / 12 months
£186-00 / 6 months
£96-00 / 3 months
£5-00 keycard deposit.

I do have a double garage and a more than double drive but I'm just a bit OCD with keeping the place looking neat and feel the trailer would be a bit vunerable to the s.