Brake pads that will take abuse, what do you use
Discussion
Before my AP caliper upgrade, i was getting though 2-3 sets of EBC blue / yellow a season, never really got through the discs but put a new set on for every year, as best practice really. Always had plenty of cooling aswell
and E-BMW in answer to my build thread question, I've got no specific questions was just looking for a bit of lunch time reading!
and E-BMW in answer to my build thread question, I've got no specific questions was just looking for a bit of lunch time reading!
I use Hawk HP+ on my 924 turbo, and also on my 924na before that. By far the best bang for the buck I have found, great bite, they never fade, last a long time and are fairly cheap. Only downside i have found is lots of dust. Tried Carbotech xp8 for a while, minimal difference to a large cost increase, so i went back to the hawks.
I tried loads of different pads when I was on my OEM setup, Most EBC Pads (Red, Yellow, Blue and Orange), Carbotech RP2, Numerous sets of Carbon Lorraine RC6, RC6E and RC8 and Mintex F2R once. Heck, I even tried DS2500`s...
I was limited with pad shape, Pagid & PF don`t make pads for that caliper. Out of all of them, I actually liked the Yellowstuff for general use. Once my performance went up, they struggled, but for a novice starting out, I think they are fine.
The best pads for me were the Carbon Lorraine which were absolutely superb. Bearing in mind it was a single piston OEM setup, they never ever faded and stopped everytime. The only issue was heat management. They worked really well but I struggled to keep them cool and pad wear increased as a result. That performance comes with increased heat that NEEDS to be controlled.
I switched to a 6-pot setup last year and initially fitted some RC8`s. They are TOO good. I was locking brakes with a light amount of pedal pressure. I was used to stomping on the brakes and the uprated setup meant that just locked up. I`m going to run them again in the summer this year now I`ve learned to be gentle on the pedal, but I wouldn`t run them on a light car (1,000kgs) in the winter fitted with a Big Brake setup.
I put some Performance Friction PF08`s in next. I was going to try the 01`s, but I`m glad they were out of stock. The 08`s were much more gradual in the initial phase and didn`t lock as much in wet / greasy conditions. Lasted ages too.
Next set to go on is a set of Pagid RS19-5`s. They have slightly less initial bite which should make modulation easier, but once working have a very similar profile to the RS29`s. I`ll see how they perform this year.
The thing I`ve found in all this is pretty obvious, but at the cheaper end of the scale, the pads are `OK`. Start spending more and they noticeably improve, in life and wear and most importantly performance.
I was limited with pad shape, Pagid & PF don`t make pads for that caliper. Out of all of them, I actually liked the Yellowstuff for general use. Once my performance went up, they struggled, but for a novice starting out, I think they are fine.
The best pads for me were the Carbon Lorraine which were absolutely superb. Bearing in mind it was a single piston OEM setup, they never ever faded and stopped everytime. The only issue was heat management. They worked really well but I struggled to keep them cool and pad wear increased as a result. That performance comes with increased heat that NEEDS to be controlled.
I switched to a 6-pot setup last year and initially fitted some RC8`s. They are TOO good. I was locking brakes with a light amount of pedal pressure. I was used to stomping on the brakes and the uprated setup meant that just locked up. I`m going to run them again in the summer this year now I`ve learned to be gentle on the pedal, but I wouldn`t run them on a light car (1,000kgs) in the winter fitted with a Big Brake setup.
I put some Performance Friction PF08`s in next. I was going to try the 01`s, but I`m glad they were out of stock. The 08`s were much more gradual in the initial phase and didn`t lock as much in wet / greasy conditions. Lasted ages too.
Next set to go on is a set of Pagid RS19-5`s. They have slightly less initial bite which should make modulation easier, but once working have a very similar profile to the RS29`s. I`ll see how they perform this year.
The thing I`ve found in all this is pretty obvious, but at the cheaper end of the scale, the pads are `OK`. Start spending more and they noticeably improve, in life and wear and most importantly performance.
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