Michelin TB5R road legal slicks - opinions?
Discussion
OK, so I'm new to the whole trackday thing. Only done three now, but I'm hooked!
I recently bought a complete new set of 'slicks' for basically pocket money - really couldn't say no at the price. They will probably go on my "MX323" when I find the time to continue building it.
Yes, they are apparently road legal, have 'E' stamps and come with a letter from Michelin to show police/MOT folk. On saying that, I don't think I'd have the nerve, or indeed see the point of using them on the road!
Does anyone have any experience of these things? They are obviously a big no no in the wet, but I'm intrigued to hear peoples view of them, positive or negative...
I recently bought a complete new set of 'slicks' for basically pocket money - really couldn't say no at the price. They will probably go on my "MX323" when I find the time to continue building it.
Yes, they are apparently road legal, have 'E' stamps and come with a letter from Michelin to show police/MOT folk. On saying that, I don't think I'd have the nerve, or indeed see the point of using them on the road!
Does anyone have any experience of these things? They are obviously a big no no in the wet, but I'm intrigued to hear peoples view of them, positive or negative...
i have not heard of those tyres before, but i am a little surprised that they can be road legal. i always thought that the yoko a032 and a048 tyres were pretty extreme for road legal tyres:
a032
a048
having said that, the a032s are apparently surprisingly good in the wet, although i have never tried them myself. The a048s however are amazing in the dry but very easy to misjudge in the wet, and that i can say from experience!!
if you are going to use them on the road be very very careful (imagine that you are actually running on 4 skinny spare wheels). oh and i suspect they will get heavily worn quite quickly on the road too.
a032
a048
having said that, the a032s are apparently surprisingly good in the wet, although i have never tried them myself. The a048s however are amazing in the dry but very easy to misjudge in the wet, and that i can say from experience!!
if you are going to use them on the road be very very careful (imagine that you are actually running on 4 skinny spare wheels). oh and i suspect they will get heavily worn quite quickly on the road too.
Rusti Evo said:
Hugely excited about those tyres if they are E marked!
Can you tell us what the model number is?
They are Michelin TB5R or TB5F - can't remember which.Can you tell us what the model number is?
Here is the text from the letter that comes with them:
[i] Michelin TB5F & TB5R Course / Racing tyres, although developed very much with motorsport use in mind, are road legal and roadworthy. They therefore comply with GB law in the ‘Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations, 1986’ – as amended. A requirement of these regulations is that car tyres must conform to ‘United Nations ECE Regulation 30’. To demonstrate this each tyre carries an ‘E2’ mark on both sidewalls and an adjacent type approval number.
Michelin TB5F & TB5R Course / Racing tyres and MOT inspections:
The Construction and Use Regulation 27, which applies to the condition and maintenance of tyres, states that the grooves of the tread pattern shall be of a depth of at least 1.6mm throughout a continuous band comprising the central three quarters of the breadth of tread and round the entire circumference of the tyre.
When a Michelin TB5F or TB5R Course / Racing tyre is being checked at an MOT test station, the 1.6mm minimum tread depth regulation applies only to the tyre’s principal grooves, those containing the wear indicators.
The MOT inspector can verify the above point by referring to “The MOT Inspection Manual” section 4.1 (tyres) issue date June 2002, issued by the Vehicle Inspectorate. In order to avoid any inconvenience or delay during a vehicle (MOT) test or roadside inspection we suggest that drivers using this tyre on the road carry a copy of this note in their vehicle.
For information, the original tread depth of the Michelin TB5F & TB5R Course / Racing principal grooves containing the wear indicators is approximately 5.5mm. [/i]
Hi
these semi slick tyres are road legal from the Michelin TB5 range. they come in 2 compounds TB5 F is designed as a front tyre and TB5 R which is designed as a rear compound (for rear wheel drive cars)
Michelin also make a TB15 tyre which is a fully treaded tyre more designed for wet and cold use. but if you try to use the TB15 on a warm day you won't get the best longevity.
The TB range of tyres are all excellent and eligable for some historic motorsport, though sadly the TB5 tyres seem to be restricted by the MSA for some reason.
Dougal
these semi slick tyres are road legal from the Michelin TB5 range. they come in 2 compounds TB5 F is designed as a front tyre and TB5 R which is designed as a rear compound (for rear wheel drive cars)
Michelin also make a TB15 tyre which is a fully treaded tyre more designed for wet and cold use. but if you try to use the TB15 on a warm day you won't get the best longevity.
The TB range of tyres are all excellent and eligable for some historic motorsport, though sadly the TB5 tyres seem to be restricted by the MSA for some reason.
Dougal
Hello Peeps,
I'm interested in purchasing these for my little car, I see that this is an old post but just wondered if there are any further updates/experience of using them, driving with them, meither from PC Plod/MOT testers etc?
What has been your experience over the last couple of years?
Are they worth the extra pennies vs. other track day tyres?
I'm interested in purchasing these for my little car, I see that this is an old post but just wondered if there are any further updates/experience of using them, driving with them, meither from PC Plod/MOT testers etc?
What has been your experience over the last couple of years?
Are they worth the extra pennies vs. other track day tyres?
I have been using the TB15 tyres in 23-62 x 15" on the back of my 1977 tarmac rally spec 3.3L lightweight Porsche 911RS, in the absence of being able to find any other tyres which will fit on the R15 x 9" rims. They work brilliantly but only for 1500 miles at which point they are worn to the legal limit. This means I have to trailer to and fro to the start/end of a rally, which is a pain and the running cost in tyres alone works out at 50p/mile. I would like to try the TB5R tyres, which Michelin say are a harder compound but I am concerned that the car may be plain dangerous if I strike wet weather. Given that my next rally is in the Ardennes, this is probable rather than possible. The alternative is Pirelli P Zero Corsa Classic in 285/40 x 15 but Pirelli recommend a minimum rim width of 9.5" against the 9" I have. The Pirelli is available in hard, medium and soft compounds. I might speak to Pirelli and find out if the 1/2" rim width is significant.
Wilson
Wilson
i had the Corsa Classics on my old Tuthills RSR rep and those tyres were absolutely fine on a 9 inch rear… they come in different compound as well. mine were D5 marked from memory
having said that I preferred the TB15s although as you say, v soft compound hence high wear rate
Avon CRZ's or Dunlop Direzza tarmac rally tyres??
HTH
having said that I preferred the TB15s although as you say, v soft compound hence high wear rate
Avon CRZ's or Dunlop Direzza tarmac rally tyres??
HTH
The Semi slick TB5F & R tyres are pretty extrem, and yes if you they are not suited to standing water. The truth be known the real answer is 2 sets of wheels (or maybe 3 sets of wheels, because they do now have PB20's for wet).
The TB5 ttyres are road legal.
http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/page/michelin-tb15...
The TB5 ttyres are road legal.
http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/page/michelin-tb15...
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