Temperature in the office

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MadMullah

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5,265 posts

193 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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is there a legal status to what time an office should be at or regarding the comfort of a employee within an office??

some people feel hot and some people feel cold - i'm one that feels hot alot and i dont think my work place is being very accomodating to any reasonable request.

JM

3,170 posts

206 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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There is a legal minimum temp but as far as I'm aware no maximum temp.

I think the minimum is about 18 deg C, most places are usually around low 20's, i.e 21-22.


MadMullah

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5,265 posts

193 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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there's absolutely no air circulation in the office, they wont put the AC and the air is stuffy as hell.

they wont even let me bring in a small desktop fan frown

pano amo

814 posts

236 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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MadMullah said:
some people feel hot and some people feel cold
Don't tell me - Men hot and women cold? There a bint across from me with a blow heater on her feet.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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pano amo said:
MadMullah said:
some people feel hot and some people feel cold
Don't tell me - Men hot and women cold? There a bint across from me with a blow heater on her feet.
Not always the case.

We have a chap here who always has his fan heater on and door shut, even when the rest of us are drinking a pint an hour just to replace lost sweat!

There are no obvious reasons why he does it, but then he is one of those who is close to genius in his field but quite worrying when it comes to life skills...

JaybirdUK

1,867 posts

167 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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Seriously, some women in our office almost straddle the portable oil filled radiators we have in the winter.

Currently fighting the aircon control, I want it at 22, silly bints want it at 28!

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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Rude-boy said:
pano amo said:
MadMullah said:
some people feel hot and some people feel cold
Don't tell me - Men hot and women cold? There a bint across from me with a blow heater on her feet.
Not always the case.

We have a chap here who always has his fan heater on and door shut, even when the rest of us are drinking a pint an hour just to replace lost sweat!

There are no obvious reasons why he does it, but then he is one of those who is close to genius in his field but quite worrying when it comes to life skills...
Yep, it's something called "thermal comfort" and it crops up every year on PH.

Generally women prefer it to be warmer than men - but that is a generalisation.

grumbledoak

31,535 posts

233 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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JM said:
There is a legal minimum temp but as far as I'm aware no maximum temp.
This is it as far as I can tell. The men get to suffer in silence in a suit while secretaries wear summer dresses and moan more.

pano amo

814 posts

236 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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Rude-boy said:
pano amo said:
MadMullah said:
some people feel hot and some people feel cold
Don't tell me - Men hot and women cold? There a bint across from me with a blow heater on her feet.
... the rest of us are drinking a pint an hour just to replace lost sweat!
I want to work there! wink

MadMullah

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193 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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doogz said:
Why?

Is there an actual reason, or has your boss just said "No, you will roast, you are not allowed a fan" because he/she is a prick?
From what i can tell its because its not been tested on to be complient which i have offered to get done and pay for. the company are unwilling to buy such a thing for the use of staff - extra costs are incurred.

the attitude seems to be everyone else is fine so therefore it doesnt matter.

JM

3,170 posts

206 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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MadMullah said:
there's absolutely no air circulation in the office, they wont put the AC and the air is stuffy as hell.

they wont even let me bring in a small desktop fan frown
Do you have windows that open?



MadMullah

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193 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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yeah but where i'm sat in an open plan office we hardly get any breeze/circulation.

even sitting next to the windows request has been declined.

JM

3,170 posts

206 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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MadMullah said:
yeah but where i'm sat in an open plan office we hardly get any breeze/circulation.

even sitting next to the windows request has been declined.
How big an office and how many people?

Legally you have to have at least 8 litres of fresh air per second for each person in the room.

Opening windows must be at least 1/20 of floor area.


MadMullah

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193 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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There's about 150+ people working here at any time. very big office - its a big call open plan call centre.

floor space wise your talkin 50m x 200m maybe.

there's lots of windows but alot of them are shut

There's no aircon pumpin air in. thats switched off.

Keep it stiff

1,765 posts

173 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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MadMullah said:
There's about 150+ people working here at any time. very big office - its a big call open plan call centre.

floor space wise your talkin 50m x 200m maybe.

there's lots of windows but alot of them are shut

There's no aircon pumpin air in. thats switched off.
I think your measurements are a bit out. 50m x 200m is 107,642 sq ft, call centre density might be 50 sq ft per head,that would give you 2,000 odd heads!!

The reality is that in an open plan office area you are never going to please all the people all the time. If others feel the same as you then raise the issue with your staff representative or line manager, it is after all not in your employer's interest to make the workplace uncomfortable.

MadMullah

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193 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ll=53.7507...

thats the work place



thats the office

its a 5 story building and we're on the 4th floor. its probably 40x70m

JM

3,170 posts

206 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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MadMullah said:
There's no aircon pumpin air in. thats switched off.
If there is not enough fresh air coming in, then you shouldn't be in the office/room.



s-w-p

375 posts

200 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Speak to your TU H & S rep if you have one.

There's more to thermal comfort than a reading from a bubble thermometer (which legally an employer has to provide), lots more info on the HSE website.

Mr Whippy

29,043 posts

241 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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You can always get hotter, but beyond getting naked, you can't get colder.

Ergo, person who feels hottest should get priority on room temp, then colder people wear more clothes.

Assuming the hottest person is wearing the minimum allowable.


Usually women who are 'cold' when wearing a jumper in September, while you wear a t-shirt and are too hot biggrin

Dave

Countdown

39,907 posts

196 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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Mr Whippy said:
Usually women who are 'cold' when wearing a jumper in September, while you wear a t-shirt and are too hot biggrin
The problem in our office is that the women who complain about it being too cold are normally wearing strappy tops. And you feel a bit of a perv for mentioning that, if they covered up a bit, they wouldn't feel as cold.


Roll on shariah law biglaugh