Apprenticeships

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jbailey93

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181 posts

159 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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I am looking for any sort of car or motorbike related apprenticeship, I have applied for pretty much all the main dealer service technician apprenticeships and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions of where else I could apply

nigel_bytes

557 posts

237 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Not a fan of this company but if your interested,
The Kwik Fit Apprenticeship scheme is a comprehensive and extensive programme that will teach you about every area of our business – two years of full training – that will lead to a NVQ qualification and a career as a Kwik Fit fitter.
http://www.kwik-fit.com/apprenticeships.asp

craigjm

17,965 posts

201 months

EDLT

15,421 posts

207 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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If I could go back I'd try and get a job as an apprentice HGV mechanic, they seem to get paid more than car mechanics frown

Old Gregg

4,438 posts

176 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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EDLT said:
If I could go back I'd try and get a job as an apprentice HGV mechanic, they seem to get paid more than car mechanics frown
As someone who was one of those (and is still an HGV tech), I can assure you that my wages are rubbish.

EDLT

15,421 posts

207 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Old Gregg said:
EDLT said:
If I could go back I'd try and get a job as an apprentice HGV mechanic, they seem to get paid more than car mechanics frown
As someone who was one of those (and is still an HGV tech), I can assure you that my wages are rubbish.
Just going from what I've seen while looking for a job. Car tech jobs are advertised at around 17-18k (or just over minimum wage for someone at a fast fitters!), HGV techs are advertised at 20k+.

Both are rubbish in PH terms, but HGV techs are less rubbish wink

Old Gregg

4,438 posts

176 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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EDLT said:
Just going from what I've seen while looking for a job. Car tech jobs are advertised at around 17-18k (or just over minimum wage for someone at a fast fitters!), HGV techs are advertised at 20k+.

Both are rubbish in PH terms, but HGV techs are less rubbish wink
Fair point. Can you not apply for a job as an HGV tech? I've worked with a few people who've made the switch.

rigga

8,732 posts

202 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Spent twenty years in the trade as a car tech,moved about ten years ago into the railways,just bigger bolts basicly,and the trainees were on about the same money as i was on the cars,dont just limit yourself to smaller stuff.

Old Gregg

4,438 posts

176 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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sebhaque said:
A friend of mine completed a HGV apprenticeship, said it was worthless afterwards though. He's ended up getting an apprenticeship at Rolls-Royce plc (the aerospace division).

Not a bad place to work if you like engineering as a whole - I started as an apprentice at Rolls and thought it was brilliant. I think the car division do apprenticeships too, might be worth looking into.

BMW also offer apprenticeship programmes.
I'd love to move into something more challenging, and I'm more than eager to put the effort in to learning or studying to do so, but it's easier said than done having only an NVQ Level 4 under my belt as qualifications (although I have worked as a forklift engineer too). I'd even take the step backward and a pay cut and be an apprentice/trainee in another field, but at 28, lots of employers seem to think I'm past it.

v64paul

120 posts

222 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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HGV techs may be better paid but. The bolts are bigger, as is pretty much everything else. Not to mention the bits are very much heavier and hurt very much more when things go wrong. Again, an artic loaded with petrol/lpg/chemicals ( i get all three in my workplace ) demands a fair bit more respect than your average saloon.

waseemrafiq94

85 posts

157 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Got myself in the same position as the OP. Had a interview with MBUK and now got one with Ford. No-one is wanting to recruit and is they do they look for A* students.

jbailey93

Original Poster:

181 posts

159 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Tbf I have good GCSE results told myself i should go college wasted a year of my life hating it and now want to go into something thats my passion, anyone know how to get into more the manufacturing side? as I seem to applied for everything going

melvster

6,841 posts

186 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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A lot of the dealer apprenticeship programmes have finished for this year, a mate of mine applied for Ferrari and Porsche in July, he was accepted to both but he took the Ferrari apprenticeship, he starts on Monday i believe. My mate said to me that when he was applying in July, the dealer apprenticeships were coming to a close for this year.

jbailey93

Original Poster:

181 posts

159 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Brilliant frown

melvster

6,841 posts

186 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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jbailey93 said:
Brilliant frown
Try the official apprenticeships website http://www.apprenticeships.org.uk/ and search for "automotive" in current vacancies near to you, there may still be a few people out there although dont expect a great wage, Ferrari only pay £120 a week and according to what my mate has told me, it is hard work.

EDLT

15,421 posts

207 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Old Gregg said:
EDLT said:
Just going from what I've seen while looking for a job. Car tech jobs are advertised at around 17-18k (or just over minimum wage for someone at a fast fitters!), HGV techs are advertised at 20k+.

Both are rubbish in PH terms, but HGV techs are less rubbish wink
Fair point. Can you not apply for a job as an HGV tech? I've worked with a few people who've made the switch.
I'm only qualified to level 2, and no college around here will let me on to level 3 courses, it must be done through an employer even if I have the money to pay them. fking s.

DHE

4,519 posts

191 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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OP, speak to you local careers office, they referred my lad to a training centre, were he has just started a 26 week course, when he passes that they look to place him with a local garage to start his level 1. It was the only way he could get an apprenticeship, had to be referred via the careers, he couldn't go direct to the training centre.

V8Triumph

5,993 posts

216 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Do you really want to work with cars as a career? This may sound a little odd but having an interest in cars doesn't always mean you make a great worker in the automotive industry.

I worked in the motortrade selling what I discribe as "numpty" cars. My passion is for classic cars, often more at the luxury end (Triumph, Jaguar, Porsche etc.) than the "bread and butter" end. I hated selling eco-boxes to numpties that didn't have a clue. I then went on to university to study Motorsport Engineering but it was not of interest to me at all and I didn't mix with the other students, they loved tech I HATED it with a passion.

Most people who work on cars these days are not real "mechanics", mechanics can fault find and replace internal components as they see fit, mechanics rebuild rather than replace. Dealers don't want REAL mechanics they want fitters who plug into a computer and replace whatever the computer tells them. If you have a real passion for cars, I would truely suggest you look into the career before you start and look into other things too. smile There is a whole world out there and just because you don't work on cars for a living doen't mean to say you can't work on your own cars as a hobby.

jbailey93

Original Poster:

181 posts

159 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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V8Triumph said:
Do you really want to work with cars as a career? This may sound a little odd but having an interest in cars doesn't always mean you make a great worker in the automotive industry.

I worked in the motortrade selling what I discribe as "numpty" cars. My passion is for classic cars, often more at the luxury end (Triumph, Jaguar, Porsche etc.) than the "bread and butter" end. I hated selling eco-boxes to numpties that didn't have a clue. I then went on to university to study Motorsport Engineering but it was not of interest to me at all and I didn't mix with the other students, they loved tech I HATED it with a passion.

Most people who work on cars these days are not real "mechanics", mechanics can fault find and replace internal components as they see fit, mechanics rebuild rather than replace. Dealers don't want REAL mechanics they want fitters who plug into a computer and replace whatever the computer tells them. If you have a real passion for cars, I would truely suggest you look into the career before you start and look into other things too. smile There is a whole world out there and just because you don't work on cars for a living doen't mean to say you can't work on your own cars as a hobby.
I went and worked for 2 weeks as a mechanic apprentice to see what it was like, and loved it the only problem was they had no permanent vacancies

melvster

6,841 posts

186 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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jbailey93 said:
I went and worked for 2 weeks as a mechanic apprentice to see what it was like, and loved it the only problem was they had no permanent vacancies
Did you try the apprenticeship website i included in my post on page 1?? If so, any luck on vacancies?? Motorsport is a good sector to get involved in, more money in the long term as you could one day, run your own team. Have a look at local motorsport teams in your area, even if there is no vacancies, just try and put yourself forward for some work experience or help out during a race weekend. It may not be a full time job initially but if you perform and work well with the other members of staff, who knows, they may offer you a position.


I was in a similar position in 2009 after completing my GCSE's, i ended up going to college and have just finished however i was keen to get some work experience under my belt so i visited a Ferrari and Porsche specialist near me http://www.j-m-h.co.uk/ and asked about part time work/experience, i was only offered 1 week but because i worked well and got on with the members of staff, i ended up working the whole summer hols, 9 weeks in total plus, i was also able to back during my college term hols and help out. Earned a good amount of money and most importantly, loved the whole experience.