Minimum 2:1 required

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Viperzs

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972 posts

168 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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zaphod42 said:
OP, did you consider appealing to the dept academic board, and then the main academic board?
I made sure that tutor was aware of my feelings at the time however I didn't follow up any action on it. It would be too late to do anything about it now though wouldn't it? This was done in 2010.

zaphod42

50,637 posts

156 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Viperzs said:
I made sure that tutor was aware of my feelings at the time however I didn't follow up any action on it. It would be too late to do anything about it now though wouldn't it? This was done in 2010.
The appeal guidelines would be both in your student handbook (paper or online), and probably on both your department web site, and the main university web site. In addition your course rep, University student services and the SU would have been able to advise on how to appeal any result.

It's not exactly hard to find out how to appeal in a Uni, it really, really isn't.

Sounds like you couldn't be bothered.

As for the time limit, I can't remember the rules, I don't think they are universal but they will set out on their appeals procedure, "appeal must be made within x days of the result being issued", or words to that effect.

Viperzs

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972 posts

168 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Thanks.

It definitely isn't because I wasn't bothered. Far from it. I don't remember exactly but it's possible I didn't follow it up because it wouldn't have put me onto a 2:1 anyway.

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

216 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Viperzs said:
Thanks.

It definitely isn't because I wasn't bothered. Far from it. I don't remember exactly but it's possible I didn't follow it up because it wouldn't have put me onto a 2:1 anyway.
So:

Viperzs said:
To those who have speculated as to the reasoning for my 2:2. I understand if they were aimed as hypothetical thoughts of a potential employer however if it was actually aimed at me then I will justy clarify that I did not spend my time at uni drinking and generally dicking about. I was well on my way for a 2:1 with a load of assignments coming back with 65+ % including one at 90%. I was badly guided through my dissertation and got screwed over on another assignment smile Sh*t happens though!
...was a complete waste of a paragraph? confused

ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Regardless of why the OP got his 2:2, that's where he is.

Options:
  • Get further academic qualifications; and/or
  • Get professional qualifications; and/or
  • Get experience in a "lesser" job before applying to target jobs as an experienced hire.
All of them need the OP to invest time/cash in his own future. "Can't be bothered" won't cut it.

Viperzs

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Thursday 29th September 2011
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Noble guy.

Incorrect. Not going into depth about reasons of why I do not have a certain degree.

ewenm said:
Regardless of why the OP got his 2:2, that's where he is.

Options:
  • Get further academic qualifications; and/or
  • Get professional qualifications; and/or
  • Get experience in a "lesser" job before applying to target jobs as an experienced hire.
All of them need the OP to invest time/cash in his own future. "Can't be bothered" won't cut it.
Thank you smile

Time, money and effort are no issue for me at all. The most likely action I will take would be one of the latter two. I would rather not go back through education, although I have not completely written off the idea.

NobleGuy

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216 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Viperzs said:
Noble guy.

Incorrect. Not going into depth about reasons of why I do not have a certain degree.
It's just you keep trying to come up with reasons then completely contradicting them.
I don't really care smile

Good luck with it all.

koolchris99

11,332 posts

180 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Why not work for a smaller company and do a part time masters or something, Ive just started mine and its prooving very useful.


Viperzs

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972 posts

168 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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NobleGuy said:
It's just you keep trying to come up with reasons then completely contradicting them.
I don't really care smile

Good luck with it all.
fk it, I'll humour you because you must care having taken the time to reply wink

With regards to your multi quote of my comments. That assignment wasn't followed up due to it not being able to take me to a 2:1. I was, however, also let down in other areas, mainly the dissertation. I resat this to improve my grade however the final mark was capped at 40, getting rid of any chance of a 2:1. Dissertation failure was partly due to the university under-preparing people on my course. I'm not the only one who was let down on the dissertation. Happy? wink

Part time masters is a good idea. I will have a look around and see what I can find. Thanks smile

zaphod42

50,637 posts

156 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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As an employer, I generally discount 2:2s... with exceptions of:

  • When people have done a degree and worked full time (OU / day release / etc) as that's really hard work...
  • When bolstered by a MA/MSc/Dphil/MBA in a relevant field (though I dislike the current MBAs)
  • When supplemented by some exceptional work experience - eg, they ran their own company (or at least tried) as that takes cahones.

ChrisMCoupe

927 posts

213 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Just to add my 2p...

I got a 2:2, no one else to blame apart from myself. I am bright, could do the work, but found all too often that sport and the compulsory boozing that went with it meant that a few marks slipped away. I graduated in 2004 from a top university, and at that time a 2:2 still meant you were filtered out of many graduate schemes.

It was slightly disheartening, but I've always been the type of person to land on my feet and a positive outgoing attitude landed me a good grad role as an IT programmer for a fairly well known consultancy. Fast-forward 2 years and this consulantacy had a requirement for developers at a top teir Investment Bank. Having built up a good rapport with the guys there, I made sure I landed the role. Haven't looked back since, been contracting in multiple banks now for the last 5 years and doing very well for myself. It's slightly ironic that I'm now working for the same banks that would have filtered me out of their grad schemes at a much higher level than any grads of a similar age to myself.



Edited by ChrisMCoupe on Thursday 29th September 10:59

Lefty

16,170 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Viperzs said:
Lefty, thanks. I would never come across like that in an interview though smile Interviews are for positive talking wink
Absolutely. If asked about your degree you could always tell them about your high grades prior to your finals and just tell the truth that your dissertation let you down - defnitely don't try to pin blame on anyone else!

Good luck smile

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

216 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Viperzs said:
Happy? wink
I'm never happy hehe

Lefty

16,170 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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zaphod42 said:
As an employer, I generally discount 2:2s... with exceptions of:

  • When people have done a degree and worked full time (OU / day release / etc) as that's really hard work...
  • When bolstered by a MA/MSc/Dphil/MBA in a relevant field (though I dislike the current MBAs)
  • When supplemented by some exceptional work experience - eg, they ran their own company (or at least tried) as that takes cahones.
hehe

Not fussed about grads that can spell either? wink

Viperzs

Original Poster:

972 posts

168 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Lefty said:
Absolutely. If asked about your degree you could always tell them about your high grades prior to your finals and just tell the truth that your dissertation let you down - defnitely don't try to pin blame on anyone else!

Good luck smile
Thanks. Yeah I would tell the truth on that. I can then also make it positive by saying that I went back to resit it!


ChrisMCoupe said:
It's slightly ironic that I'm now working for the same banks that would have filtered me out of their grad schemes at a much higher level than any grads of a similar age to myself.
I've seen that said a few times actually. Very interesting to see people often progress better outside a graduate scheme!


NobleGuy said:
I'm never happy hehe
What if I did a little dance?

Lefty

16,170 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Viperzs said:
Lefty said:
Absolutely. If asked about your degree you could always tell them about your high grades prior to your finals and just tell the truth that your dissertation let you down - defnitely don't try to pin blame on anyone else!

Good luck smile
Thanks. Yeah I would tell the truth on that. I can then also make it positive by saying that I went back to resit it!


ChrisMCoupe said:
It's slightly ironic that I'm now working for the same banks that would have filtered me out of their grad schemes at a much higher level than any grads of a similar age to myself.
I've seen that said a few times actually. Very interesting to see people often progress better outside a graduate scheme!


NobleGuy said:
I'm never happy hehe
What if I did a little dance?
And make a little love? maybe get down tonight?

wink

Tyson1980

712 posts

157 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Viperzs said:
I've seen that said a few times actually. Very interesting to see people often progress better outside a graduate scheme!
Well if it makes you feel any better. My Chief Financial Officer who heads a multi-billion pound paper manufacturing company did not go to University.

He started as an 8 week temp 15years ago. Went onto be made permanent, they paid for his CIMA and the rest is history..

Did his AAT qualification, then did his CIMA qualification. He does not even have a degree.

Its all relative i suppose...


NobleGuy

7,133 posts

216 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Lefty said:
Viperzs said:
NobleGuy said:
I'm never happy hehe
What if I did a little dance?
And make a little love? maybe get down tonight?

wink
I've got that sorted tonight already smile
How did we get onto smut anyway... hehe

zaphod42

50,637 posts

156 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Lefty said:
hehe

Not fussed about grads that can spell either? wink
Indeed. No habla espanol...

Viperzs

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972 posts

168 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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NobleGuy said:
I've got that sorted tonight already smile
How did we get onto smut anyway... hehe
Smut should be expected anywhere!

Also, sexual favours would be provided in return for a job wink