Management Consulting / Accenture
Discussion
Hi all, I was asked some advice by a friend who is applying for a role at Accenture.
2 questions she was asked which she is struggling to sum up in 3,000 characters are;
How to Accenture use technology to help their clients;
What you expect your daily duties to entail as an analyst.
Second question she is OK with, first she is struggling as the site itself has so much to offer that it's difficult to summarise.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
Daily duties are fairly easy to find out about as there are a wealth of graduate sites out there and Accenture website is good.
Does anyone work as an analyst or consultant who could help her out with advice?
2 questions she was asked which she is struggling to sum up in 3,000 characters are;
How to Accenture use technology to help their clients;
What you expect your daily duties to entail as an analyst.
Second question she is OK with, first she is struggling as the site itself has so much to offer that it's difficult to summarise.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
Daily duties are fairly easy to find out about as there are a wealth of graduate sites out there and Accenture website is good.
Does anyone work as an analyst or consultant who could help her out with advice?
Edited by AB on Friday 21st October 18:19
sorry to be unhelpful - but if you like the girl, don't let her apply.
I won't even review a CV of an ex Accenture person - as I know if they were good before they went in, they'll have been made incompetent by the time they left.
Oh and the answer is
"Accenture don't help their clients. They are a massive drain on resources and deliver very little, or nothing after sending in inexperienced cheap resources and charging a fortune"
Their strap line should be
Over Promise, Under Deliver.......
I won't even review a CV of an ex Accenture person - as I know if they were good before they went in, they'll have been made incompetent by the time they left.
Oh and the answer is
"Accenture don't help their clients. They are a massive drain on resources and deliver very little, or nothing after sending in inexperienced cheap resources and charging a fortune"
Their strap line should be
Over Promise, Under Deliver.......
For balance I know plenty of Accenture guys. Some are crap, fairly low paid and get shafted with bad projects. Others have done 5 years there, got time out and their MBA paid for, did a few years and then were headhunted to go elsewhere, or started their own business.
I have never heard having Accenture on your CV as being a negative, and looking at the current careers, jobs and cars of some of my former Accenture friends, have to say if you/she can get in there do so. If you discard CVs of ex Accenture employees you are missing out, and unique.
I have worked for a company that hired w
ker management consultants, complete waste of time. Doesn't mean it's not a good business to be in though!
I have never heard having Accenture on your CV as being a negative, and looking at the current careers, jobs and cars of some of my former Accenture friends, have to say if you/she can get in there do so. If you discard CVs of ex Accenture employees you are missing out, and unique.
I have worked for a company that hired w
ker management consultants, complete waste of time. Doesn't mean it's not a good business to be in though!Edited by 0a on Friday 21st October 18:28
worsy said:
That sums up my (ongoing) experience with that lot. I know a lot of people who will get a good laugh out of it - thanks for posting worsy 
jonah35 said:
i have heard they get 36k basic as a graduate salary which as a 23 ish year old isn't bad plus you can be promoted within a year or two and be on nearer 50k, they (apparently) work you hard but i've not seen that from my acquaintances that work there
It's 31K plus a £10k bonus in the first two years. Pay rise every year, from 2% up to 10%, regardless of promotion (from what I hear). Promotion from analyst to consultant takes 3 years on average, but I know a few people who managed it in 1.To be honest, you don't have to work hard, but you're not going to move up the chain if you don't. Two analysts on my team work 10+ hours most days, but that is most likely because we have a crucial ministerial showcase coming up next week.
ETA: I can't find my application notes... They must be on my old laptop.
Edited by T7G on Sunday 23 October 00:46
Accenture don't do anything special with technology to help their clients, so the answer is the same as any other consultancy: Technology is used to improve processes and so reduce wasted time and cut costs. Other benefits may include providing better management and operational information from better data analysis, improved system reliability etc, but all these boil down to reducing costs overall (of course, the consultancy's rates will eat into that saving, sometimes by more than the savings are worth...).
T7G said:
It's 31K plus a £10k bonus in the first two years. Pay rise every year, from 2% up to 10%, regardless of promotion (from what I hear). Promotion from analyst to consultant takes 3 years on average, but I know a few people who managed it in 1.
To be honest, you don't have to work hard, but you're not going to move up the chain if you don't. Two analysts on my team work 10+ hours most days, but that is most likely because we have a crucial ministerial showcase coming up next week.
ETA: I can't find my application notes... They must be on my old laptop.
This is correct- friends work more or less than this depending on the assignment. The "best" of my friends work far less than quoted above, consultant was made by all I know in a year and one (crap) took 3. To be honest, you don't have to work hard, but you're not going to move up the chain if you don't. Two analysts on my team work 10+ hours most days, but that is most likely because we have a crucial ministerial showcase coming up next week.
ETA: I can't find my application notes... They must be on my old laptop.
Edited by T7G on Sunday 23 October 00:46
Ha ha, most of the above is true of all the 'big five'. I went straight into a job with PW when I graduated, on the whole it was a good experience but some there were complete aholes who were bullstting their way up the career path by talking a good project or 'hanging on to someone elses coat tails' (as they used to call it).
I don't know why anyone pays their rates anymore but as the old rule goes - nobody gets sacked for buying IBM!
To sum it up they should use technology to help their clients make more profit, what other reason could there be? Whatever the short term goal is of a project (efficiencies, competitiveness, prestige, willy waving), the long term must always be about the bottom line.
Mike
holes who were bullstting their way up the career path by talking a good project or 'hanging on to someone elses coat tails' (as they used to call it).I don't know why anyone pays their rates anymore but as the old rule goes - nobody gets sacked for buying IBM!
To sum it up they should use technology to help their clients make more profit, what other reason could there be? Whatever the short term goal is of a project (efficiencies, competitiveness, prestige, willy waving), the long term must always be about the bottom line.
Mike
0a said:
This is correct- friends work more or less than this depending on the assignment. The "best" of my friends work far less than quoted above, consultant was made by all I know in a year and one (crap) took 3.
so you start as an analyst and then become a consultant. what does a consultant earn then? about £50k?MH said:
To sum it up they should use technology to help their clients make more profit, what other reason could there be? Whatever the short term goal is of a project (efficiencies, competitiveness, prestige, willy waving), the long term must always be about the bottom line.
Mike
Needs to be 3,000 words though. All of them buzz-worthy.Mike
Make sure that
"empower", "leverage", "incentivise", "change drivers", and such other management bulls
t features highly, and she'll get along fine. T7G said:
jonah35 said:
i have heard they get 36k basic as a graduate salary which as a 23 ish year old isn't bad plus you can be promoted within a year or two and be on nearer 50k, they (apparently) work you hard but i've not seen that from my acquaintances that work there
It's 31K plus a £10k bonus in the first two years. Pay rise every year, from 2% up to 10%, regardless of promotion (from what I hear). Promotion from analyst to consultant takes 3 years on average, but I know a few people who managed it in 1.To be honest, you don't have to work hard, but you're not going to move up the chain if you don't. Two analysts on my team work 10+ hours most days, but that is most likely because we have a crucial ministerial showcase coming up next week.
ETA: I can't find my application notes... They must be on my old laptop.
Edited by T7G on Sunday 23 October 00:46
My experience of working with Accenture consultants (3 years or so over the last 10) - is that when they left, they had to start again learning to do something that actually adds value.
RacerMDR said:
the money isn't necessarily a good thing though. It traps you into an unskilled trade. You won't want to go anywhere else, they'll flog you to death and teach you nothing useful if you need to leave and do a proper job.
My experience of working with Accenture consultants (3 years or so over the last 10) - is that when they left, they had to start again learning to do something that actually adds value.
They clearly weren't any good... any decent management consultant who can sell the promise in the Accenture way can be set for life... My experience of working with Accenture consultants (3 years or so over the last 10) - is that when they left, they had to start again learning to do something that actually adds value.
They will flog you to death though, but the rewards are very good.
davepoth said:
MH said:
To sum it up they should use technology to help their clients make more profit, what other reason could there be? Whatever the short term goal is of a project (efficiencies, competitiveness, prestige, willy waving), the long term must always be about the bottom line.
Mike
Needs to be 3,000 words though. All of them buzz-worthy.Mike
Gassing Station | Jobs & Employment Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff