Just been dismissed - Advice please

[arfur daley]

you could sell french cars, as these salesmen have to screw up the sales bit in order to sell them.

[IrrElephant]

arfur daley said:

you could sell french cars, as these salesmen have to screw up the sales bit in order to sell them.

Ahem.

Nowt but professional and by the book here!

[b19rak]

ali_kat said:

Oh, I know, and I do believe you!

Get your cv up on the job sites

Give Capita a ring, they have an L&P division that are always looking!

Be prepared to go down a level or 2

What else are you capeable of? What else have you done? Are you 20s, 30s, 40s?

I'll try Capita.

I'm 37. Have been an FA for 8 years and been successful. I have been thinking for a while that i will have to turn my hand to something else with RDR coming along and Banks being squeezed dry. Do i really want another FA/IFA job, hand on heart, not really. But i would like to stay in the industry doing something different. But what? That is the question.

I was working in IT related jobs for about 6 years prior to being an FA so i have sound IT skills. I have always been a good salesman. Even when i worked at Byte Computers (now PC world) as a technician i used to outsell the guys on the shop floor.

[monkey gland]

At the risk of kicking a man when he is down, are we supposed to believe that the one and only time you broke the regs was when you happened to be dealing with a mystery shopper? It's like a drink driver, on being tugged saying, "This was my first time doing it". It's always their first time isn't it... very unlucky indeed!

Have you asked yourself whether the mystery shopper may have been ordered to visit you specifically due to concerns from above

[Jonboy_t]

I believe that an employer would have to prove under balance of probability that you willfully and intentionally deceived a client (i.e. mystery shopper) or willfully negated to impart some information that is legally required. If they cannot prove that you did not say X, Y or Z on purpose, I understand that they have no grounds for gross misconduct. Misconduct possibly, but not gross misconduct.

BTW - I am no legal expert, just my two penneth.

[bigbubba]

Jonboy_t said:

I believe that an employer would have to prove under balance of probability that you willfully and intentionally deceived a client (i.e. mystery shopper) or willfully negated to impart some information that is legally required. If they cannot prove that you did not say X, Y or Z on purpose, I understand that they have no grounds for gross misconduct. Misconduct possibly, but not gross misconduct.

BTW - I am no legal expert, just my two penneth.

I believe that especially in Financial advising there is so much to lose that a company is well justified in the dismissal from just one offence.

There are limitless fines and a loss of license at stake if the company is found guilty.

[Tyre Tread]

Jonboy_t said:

.. just my two penneth.

Not helpful I know but that should be two pen'orth and is short for 2 pennies worth.

[Jonboy_t]

Tyre Tread said:

Not helpful I know but that should be two pen'orth and is short for 2 pennies worth.

Good point, but I'm a southerner so carry no less than a twenty, a-thank you

[ali_kat]

b19rak said:

Even when i worked at Byte Computers (now PC world) as a technician i used to outsell the guys on the shop floor.

Which branch? I was SR's PA

b19rak said:

I'll try Capita.

I'm 37. Have been an FA for 8 years and been successful. I have been thinking for a while that i will have to turn my hand to something else with RDR coming along and Banks being squeezed dry. Do i really want another FA/IFA job, hand on heart, not really. But i would like to stay in the industry doing something different. But what? That is the question.

I was working in IT related jobs for about 6 years prior to being an FA so i have sound IT skills. I have always been a good salesman.

Good luck!

[Eric Mc]

Whatever you chose to do, I would pick a career that does not involve a high standard of ethics -

politician?

Catholic priest?

reporter for News International?

[b19rak]

ali_kat said:

b19rak said:

Even when i worked at Byte Computers (now PC world) as a technician i used to outsell the guys on the shop floor.

Which branch? I was SR's PA

b19rak said:

I'll try Capita.

I'm 37. Have been an FA for 8 years and been successful. I have been thinking for a while that i will have to turn my hand to something else with RDR coming along and Banks being squeezed dry. Do i really want another FA/IFA job, hand on heart, not really. But i would like to stay in the industry doing something different. But what? That is the question.

I was working in IT related jobs for about 6 years prior to being an FA so i have sound IT skills. I have always been a good salesman.

Good luck!

No way I must have met you. I worked at Byte Solihull and SR would often come in. I loved working there.

[Wacky Racer]

Eric Mc said:

Whatever you chose to do, I would pick a career that does not involve a high standard of ethics -

politician?

Catholic priest?

reporter for News International?

Or even an accountant.......

[b19rak]

I'm seriously down in the dumps, it's been my life for the last. 5 years and now it's gone.

I want to turn my hand to another type of specialist sales job, but what is the question.

[ali_kat]

b19rak said:

No way I must have met you. I worked at Byte Solihull and SR would often come in. I loved working there.

We were there a lot!

I loved working for him... He let me drive his car(s)!

[New POD]

Eric Mc said:

Whatever you chose to do, I would pick a career that does not involve a high standard of ethics -

politician?

Catholic priest?

reporter for News International?

Aircraft Safety Case Engineer.

Edited by New POD on Thursday 10th November 23:23

[Wacky Racer]

New POD said:

Eric Mc said:

Whatever you chose to do, I would pick a career that does not involve a high standard of ethics -

politician?

Catholic priest?

reporter for News International?

Accountant ?

Been suggested already...keep up at the back.....

To the op:- Sorry to hear about this, hope you get fixed up soon......

[SirBlade]

compromise agreement

[b19rak]

SirBlade said:

compromise agreement

I've got the right to appeal and I'm going to ask the question.

[Jonboy_t]

b19rak said:

SirBlade said:

compromise agreement

I've got the right to appeal and I'm going to ask the question.

If they've made their decision, it's highly unlikely that they will renage on it and give you breathing space. In reality, they don't owe you anything and what you will be asking for is essentially a favour from them. Speak to any local body like the CAB or something to see if they can give you some big words to use on them (in a non-threatening way) that may make them think twice about the decision - 'balance of probability' is generally a good one as it shifts owness to them slightly (but as said above, might not work with FSA guidelines being used against you).

I really do wish you the best with it and I hope everything gets sorted for you. Things will work themselves out though, you seem to have the right attitude towards it in that you want to work rather than becoming a sponger, so best of luck to you mate.

[scotal]

Jonboy_t said:

If they've made their decision, it's highly unlikely that they will renage on it and give you breathing space.

I agree especially as the OP said this:--

"I was dismissed for gross misconduct for not following the company's sales procedure. That's deemed uncompliant and as there were a few mandatories I missed in both the first and second appointment they all went against me and a fit and proper board deem me as not fit and proper anymore"

You screwed up more than once. They, I guess looked on that as wanton disregard for the firms policies. I feel for you, but any regulated firm will put their status with the FSA way in front of you as an employee. I reckon the door to any financial services job is currently well out of reach.

By the way having your name on your profile may not be the most sensible thing right now, it makes your identifiable. Unless there's 2 of you working in FIn services at firms with short names.
Good luck with your search.