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crofty1984

9,923 posts

74 months

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Donatello said:
Don't I know it. I am truly devastated and cannot stop thinking about it. I could punch myself.

I thought about getting in touch, acting like I had sent the application in error, then re-applying haha...
Ring them, apologise profusely send it again.
They probably won't murder your children.

Zad

8,756 posts

106 months

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VTECBOY said:
could of done better.
Yes, you could have. See what I did there? You can get away with "could of" at school, college, on East Enders and in colloquial conversation. It possibly isn't going to go quite so well in a formal interview.


Super Slo Mo

2,263 posts

68 months

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Mr Gearchange said:
My fking useless Sat Nav very nearly blew an interview for a very highly paid job yesterday.

Interview was 8am in Feltham. I left Northampton at 6:15am which would have me there 30-40 minutes ahead of time.
All the way down the M40 the Sat Nav is telling me to exit at every junction - christ alone knows why.
I get to the M25 junction but Sat Nav says "no no - keep going". Then it takes me through Uxbridge, Hillingdon, & Southall and massive traffic.
I arrived for the interview 15 minutes late. I have never been late for a single meeting in my entire life. Pissflaps, Pissflaps, Pissflaps.furious

So I arrive sweaty, stressed and with a mouth like sandpaper.
Anyway - I had a word with myself and sorted it out. Only candidate through to the next round which is nice.
Last time I trust that useless integrated bag o ste sat nav though.
You didn't leave anywhere near enough contingency time, based on my experience of living and working around that area. You could easily have lost an hour trying to get around the M25 and down the M4. Out of interest, why did you go across to the M40 from Northampton? I'd have thought the M1 was shorter, although the roadworks are a bit of a pain.

General rule with the M25 at rush hour is to allow at least an hour more than you need, once inside the M25 you can double that on some occasions. The route your sat nat chose wasn't too bad, although I'd have taken the M25 out of preference.

You were lucky to be only 15 minutes late. If I were you (and again, this is based on bitter experience), next time I'd be allowing 90 minutes extra. If you're early at least you get time to relax before the interview.




odyssey2200

17,640 posts

79 months

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Years ago I had an interview near Brooklands.

I left plenty of time and decided to stop in Fleet services for a cuppa and a pee.

I came out of the services to find the M3 stationary all the way to the M25 and a truck had gone over.

My 45 mins in hand was now blown away.
I called the company to explain what had happened and that I was stuck.
They were very understanding and said it happens frequently.

I managed to get there 25 mins late having had to go past the M25 junction on the M3, turn around and come back down to the M25 to get off furious

They were OK about it but I was so very hung up on it and kept apologizing for it.

I really blew the interview frown

JonRB

39,930 posts

142 months

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Super Slo Mo said:
You didn't leave anywhere near enough contingency time, based on my experience of living and working around that area. You could easily have lost an hour trying to get around the M25 and down the M4.
I make a point of not leaving too much contingency time for an interview on the basis that if I can't do the commute to them in a sensible time then I don't want the contract anyway. biggrin

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Super Slo Mo

2,263 posts

68 months

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JonRB said:
I make a point of not leaving too much contingency time for an interview on the basis that if I can't do the commute to them in a sensible time then I don't want the contract anyway. biggrin
Once you get into your day to day commute, you can pretty much nail the time down to a few minutes either way. It's the one off trips that you need the contingency for, as in the case of the chap above.

Personally, i generally allow a good hour over and above what I'd expect, when I'm travelling to site somewhere. That way, if I'm ahead of schedule, I've time for a coffee and a sandwich, if traffic's bad, then I've an hour to deal with it.

I don't have a regular commute as such though, I can be in Twickenham one day, Leeds the next (or day after that), so don't get to know the local nuances quite as well as a regular commuter. For instance, I've got to be at Silverstone by 09:00 tomorrow, it's 120 miles from here, but means hitting Birmingham at rush hour. Basically I've got to be out of here by 06:00 just to be safe, should be past Birmingham by 07:00, then breakfasting on the M1 by 8ish, hopefully. I could use the toll, but that's a fiver towards my brekkie gone.

MDJ

26 posts

42 months

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Mr Gearchange said:
..... Only candidate through to the next round which is nice..
Er, barring any monumental fk ups, I'd say you've got the job then.... :-)

Mr Gearchange

3,762 posts

76 months

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Super Slo Mo said:
You didn't leave anywhere near enough contingency time, based on my experience of living and working around that area. You could easily have lost an hour trying to get around the M25 and down the M4. Out of interest, why did you go across to the M40 from Northampton? I'd have thought the M1 was shorter, although the roadworks are a bit of a pain.
I fly out of Heathrow at least once a week - and Feltham isn't exactly far away from there.
If I leave at 6am it takes me 70 minutes to arrive in the T5 car park.
I figured an extra 50 minutes to make the additional 8.2 miles was sufficient. And it would have been had I not listened to the moron Sat Nav.

I always go across to the M40 because:
A) The 50mph roadworks on the M1 are a bd and:
B) I want to limit how far i have to drive round the M25 as far as possible.

But yes - lesson learned...

New POD

2,118 posts

20 months

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JonRB said:
I make a point of not leaving too much contingency time for an interview on the basis that if I can't do the commute to them in a sensible time then I don't want the contract anyway. biggrin
The interview I had for my current contract, was during a period of heavy snow, so I came down on the Sunday morning, stayed in a B&B, and still managed to arrive at the interview 1/2 an hour early on the Monday.

900T-R

18,676 posts

127 months

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New POD said:
and still managed to arrive at the interview 1/2 an hour early on the Monday.
Seeing as you got the contract, I assume it didn't send the interviewer fuming, then... thumbup

Pickled Piper

5,178 posts

105 months

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Do other PHers downshift their cars when attending interviews?

People always notice the type of car you arrive in. I also work in an industry where car allowances are not generous (that's why I now work freelance). I remember many years ago arriving at an interview in a convertible. The interviewer spent a large part of the time refering to my car (negatively). Didn't get the job.

I did learn from the experience and started attending interviews in my Wife's Golf. I would consider hiring a grey Mondeo or Focus to attend an interview nowadays. It's a sad indictment of my industry sector that works car parks are full of grey / black repmobiles and to drive anything else is considered negatively.

pp

900T-R

18,676 posts

127 months

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Pickled Piper said:
Do other PHers downshift their cars when attending interviews?
Yes. That, or I give the throttle a blip before shutting the engine off.

I stop short of doing donuts in the car park, though.

HTH bowtie

Pickled Piper

5,178 posts

105 months

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900T-R said:
Pickled Piper said:
Do other PHers downshift their cars when attending interviews?
Yes. That, or I give the throttle a blip before shutting the engine off.

I stop short of doing donuts in the car park, though.

HTH bowtie
Thanks, yes, the other meaning of "downshift" did occur to me when I posted that.

I agree, there is nothing more satisfying than giving it some revs in the works car park. Not sure all those that run diesel repmobiles always appreciate it.

smile pp

944fan

1,974 posts

55 months

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A few years back I was looking to move on from my current job and also looking to relocate. I spent a while talking the agency explaining the sort of thing I wanted. Particularly about the size of the company I was interested in as I didn't want to work for a small outfit.

Anyway, got an interview with a company, the agent said they were fairly small but growing all the time and were just about to move into a new office.

Went to the interview which was an hours drive away, as I am approaching the place I start thinking I am in the wrong place as I am in a housing estate. I pulled over, checked the address, map, directions etc. Phonned the agent and confirmed the address was correct. I pull up outside a house, start to think OK perhaps the MD is at home today and will conduct the interview there. I get to the door and there are two doorbells once for company one for the house. Guy comes over the intercom and says come round the side gate. Go round there and in front of me there is a brick-built shed - their office.

Was not happy. Did the interview and thought I would just chalk it up as some experience and then get out of there. Didn't even make it back to the car before the agent phoned with a job offer. Politely declined, then impolitely told him how un-happy I was to be sent to a company run out of a shed in somes garden.

JonRB

39,930 posts

142 months

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944fan said:
I pull up outside a house, start to think OK perhaps the MD is at home today and will conduct the interview there. I get to the door and there are two doorbells once for company one for the house. Guy comes over the intercom and says come round the side gate. Go round there and in front of me there is a brick-built shed - their office.
Yes, I had a similar one. It was a converted garage with an extension on the back, although in fairness it was extremely nicely and professionally done.

A little off topic as it was more than just an interview, but I negotiated the contract, agreed to start and that I would work predominantly from home but attend their office for a little while to get into things. Only it turned out they expected a fair few trips up to London to 'road warrior' meetup in coffee shops and the like and those began on day 3.
Then on day 4 they asked me to to design and implement a mission-critical database solution for online gaming tournaments not dissimilar to the XBox Live lobby, which was so far outside my remit it was untrue (I'm a C++ developer). I made it perfectly clear this was not my thing, but they asked me to go for it anyway. The middle of the following week they terminated the contract as it "wasn't working out". Later on I found them bad mouthing me on a public forum over it and I posted that they'd been lucky I hadn't sued them for breach of contract and would be luckier still if I didn't sue them for libel in the light of the comments. Forum became private immediately. smile



otolith

19,738 posts

74 months

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Worst interview ever was a guy we interviewed for a developer job who answered almost every question with a shrug and "dunno". My boss thought he was depressed. I thought he was a time wasting tosser who had been badgered into turning up by either the job centre or his mum and was making damn sure he didn't get the job.

944fan

1,974 posts

55 months

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otolith said:
Worst interview ever was a guy we interviewed for a developer job who answered almost every question with a shrug and "dunno". My boss thought he was depressed. I thought he was a time wasting tosser who had been badgered into turning up by either the job centre or his mum and was making damn sure he didn't get the job.
A lot of the developers I have interviewed seem to be like this.

otolith

19,738 posts

74 months

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944fan said:
A lot of the developers I have interviewed seem to be like this.
How do they ever find work? We weren't interviewing anyone who wasn't qualified on paper, so the interviews were a simple excercise in (i) is this person a bullstter? (ii) can I work with this person?

percymk4

267 posts

56 months

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R60EST said:
I replied to an ad in the early 90's for a position in sales & delivery . It stated car & phone essential. Some of you will already know what's coming but I was young and naive and took the ad at face value. I was offered an interview immediately and given the details of when and where to attend.

I went to a fairly large office complex just outside Manchester. The interview was in 2 stages . The first stage was more or less , after checking the very basics of your CV ,"Do you want to go through to the next stage"

The second stage is where we were going to be introduced to 'The Product' I asked what the product was only to be told all will be revealed in the upcoming presentation. For over 1 hour we were told how good this product was , how it would change our lives for the better , it would enable us to pursue a very rewarding career both financially and socially. They went on and on and on about the product always evading any questions as to what the product actually was.

I'll get to the point , I arrived at the interview at 9.30 , I was still there at 2.00pm , along with a small group of other candidates, we still didn't know what we were going to be doing or what 'The Product' was. Finally into the final stage , a demonstration of the product .... A Kirby Vacuum Cleaner.

Needless to say demonstrating and selling these extremely expensive 'amazing machines rolleyes ' to vulnerable pensioners was not a career path I was about to embark on.
I had a very similar one to this.

Just left the Army, only job I had before that was in a warehouse so I wasn't too clued up on the bullst advert speak you see in some job adverts.
Just needed a job to tide me over while my application for my current job was going through the motions so I applied online to a sales outfit in Glasgow "no experience needed etc etc". Got an immediate response offering an "interview" (obviously).

Turned up to the place in the city centre, small open plan office with some glass walled interview rooms with folk already in them going for the job, and there were shedloads of people already waiting in the sitting area.
Got called in for my interview by a 21 y/o "executive" who proceeded to spend the next 15 minutes telling me how great he is, how far he's come and how he drives a BMW, you know, those rare and exclusive cars. Anyway, the next part of the process was to go out in the "field" with a seller and get shown the ropes (still not sure at this point as to what the job actually entails).

So we head out to his car and on the way I finally click that this is a door-to-door selling job, selling a TV and Internet provider. This was all during the very heavy snow we had a few years back, so I spent the next 4 hours trudging through residential streets, in snow up to knee height, wearing only a suit, absolutley freezing, knocking on peoples doors and generally being a nuisance to people. Never felt so much like scum, at one point I was waiting on the pavement while this guy knocked on an old ladys door, comes to the door looking pretty worse for wear, and before the guy gets halfway through his speach she says she buried her husband yesterday. Bloody hell it was an awful day.

Ended up having to get the train back into Glasgow to hear if we got the job (and more importantly, to get my car). Surprise surprise I got offered the job, I say "job", it was unpaid unless you sold anything, and if you did you seemed to get barely anything anyway. Still stayed polite, took his wee premade "congratulations on your job" card they give to everyone, and got out of there.
Pish day.

Edited by percymk4 on Monday 18th June 20:41

944fan

1,974 posts

55 months

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otolith said:
944fan said:
A lot of the developers I have interviewed seem to be like this.
How do they ever find work? We weren't interviewing anyone who wasn't qualified on paper, so the interviews were a simple excercise in (i) is this person a bullstter? (ii) can I work with this person?
I know. I have interviewed recently for two senior developer roles. For the most part I only want someone who can program very well so they don't need to the most outgoing person but some of them strugle with anything greater than a grunt. I, like you I guess, had probably decided based on their CV whether they were going to get the job and the interview was to check their personality for a fit within the team and company. The amount that fail this basic check is amazing.

The ones that do much fking head in are the ones who answer my opening question "What do you know about us?" with a shrug and "Not much really". Sometimes feel like ending the interview there and then.
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