Recruitment agent calling me at work!
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doogz said:
I would never give an agent like that my desk number for that very reason! Mobile only.
Doesnt need it though:Identifies current company from CV
Finds switchboard number
Calls and asks for Mr whoever
Not exactly rocket science is it.
Bad form really, but agree with the guy above, could have been a dream move you might have missed out on.
I'm sure plenty of people have been contacted through work with a better offer of employment from an agent, take the rough with the smooth, not everyone likes to leave voicemails as its impersonal, take it as a compliment or leave your current company off the cv, some of these recruiters make next to nothing unless their billing big numbers every month.
ReaperCushions said:
Doesnt need it though:
Identifies current company from CV
Finds switchboard number
Calls and asks for Mr whoever
Not exactly rocket science is it.
Bad form really, but agree with the guy above, could have been a dream move you might have missed out on.
The OP said that he had already been contacted about the role in question and had interviews arranged through another agent, which means he would have missed out had he not been contacted already.Identifies current company from CV
Finds switchboard number
Calls and asks for Mr whoever
Not exactly rocket science is it.
Bad form really, but agree with the guy above, could have been a dream move you might have missed out on.
Apparently some joy that the recruiter failed to get hold of him through a reasonably traditional method is somehow deemed appropriate though.
I don't see it.
Bluequay said:
As a permie he's not going to miss out on dream role because of a few hours, the recruiter was no doubt more concerned about another recruiter getting to him with role first hence the phone call at work. It's bad form no matter how you try and dress up.
Depends if the client has an imposed deadline for CV submissions for a particular role.Most PSL clients and RPO functions dealing with multiple agencies would do so.
TIGA84 said:
Bluequay said:
As a permie he's not going to miss out on dream role because of a few hours, the recruiter was no doubt more concerned about another recruiter getting to him with role first hence the phone call at work. It's bad form no matter how you try and dress up.
Depends if the client has an imposed deadline for CV submissions for a particular role.Most PSL clients and RPO functions dealing with multiple agencies would do so.
Bluequay said:
Of a few hours?, for a permanent role? Where you are going to have to wait a minimum of a month to 6 weeks to get a decent candidate into the position? The recruiter was looking out for his own interests not the candidates.
You obviously speak from a positon of clarity and experience, so I'll leave you to your views.Bluequay said:
Of a few hours?, for a permanent role? Where you are going to have to wait a minimum of a month to 6 weeks to get a decent candidate into the position? The recruiter was looking out for his own interests not the candidates.
You don't say, well I never! Someone in a commercial sales role putting their own interests first, whatever next? Unlike the guy who sold me a new car, he was the complete altruist. MTFU, leave your current employer off your CV, never put your home address (just locations) and leave your mobile number on there. Posting all your details onto any job site is asking for trouble, so make sure that you stay in control of your CV. If you do receive a call at your desk and your boss or colleagues are in earshot, treat it as though you've been 'approached' thank them for their interest but very loudly tell them you're happy where you are before asking how they got your name and number. A lot of the reponses here are on the premise that applicants will apply for jobs or that recruiter will sift sites for CVs.
Have you considered that the recruiter operates along the lines that he rang Joe Bloggs who was not interested, asked if JB knew anybody, got referred to you but had no contact details.
I used to work in recruitment too and as a headhunter it was my job to proactively network with people, research and profile people and then make approaches. These people aren't necessarily looking and won't have their CV details online, but you can find a lot about them from industry events etc. I have approached many people this way, albeit subtly. This was also pre LinkedIn over 10 years ago now. Using this research and approach method I actually enabled a guy to relocate from Lisbon to Amsterdam from a consultancy environment to an in house industry role. He went on to become the CIO for that organisation.
Have you considered that the recruiter operates along the lines that he rang Joe Bloggs who was not interested, asked if JB knew anybody, got referred to you but had no contact details.
I used to work in recruitment too and as a headhunter it was my job to proactively network with people, research and profile people and then make approaches. These people aren't necessarily looking and won't have their CV details online, but you can find a lot about them from industry events etc. I have approached many people this way, albeit subtly. This was also pre LinkedIn over 10 years ago now. Using this research and approach method I actually enabled a guy to relocate from Lisbon to Amsterdam from a consultancy environment to an in house industry role. He went on to become the CIO for that organisation.
t!edc said:
I used to work in recruitment too and as a headhunter it was my job to proactively network with people, research and profile people and then make approaches. These people aren't necessarily looking and won't have their CV details online, but you can find a lot about them from industry events etc. I have approached many people this way, albeit subtly. This was also pre LinkedIn over 10 years ago now. Using this research and approach method I actually enabled a guy to relocate from Lisbon to Amsterdam from a consultancy environment to an in house industry role. He went on to become the CIO for that organisation.
Thank you, that is exactly how recruitment works.I have been a recruiter for 23 years which gives me a great advantage with hundreds of contacts built up over years BUT - I still network.
A bit of closure from my point of view...
I got offered the role I interviewed for! It's a great offer at a fantastic company, and I can't wait to start.
Thanks everyone for your posts and varying points of view. I appreciate that recruiters are under pressure and have to sometimes be creative in their approach, but I still maintain that the cause of my OP crossed a line that was unacceptable. Although it's academic at this point, I would not have used this agent in principle as a result of his approach. Irrespective of his 'cover', it put me under undue pressure and was something I should not have had to worry about.
As I said, in the end I was more measured in my response. I simply emailed him saying that I was waiting on the decision of the role I'd already applied for, and that he wasn't to contact me through any avenues not offered on my CV in future.
I got offered the role I interviewed for! It's a great offer at a fantastic company, and I can't wait to start.
Thanks everyone for your posts and varying points of view. I appreciate that recruiters are under pressure and have to sometimes be creative in their approach, but I still maintain that the cause of my OP crossed a line that was unacceptable. Although it's academic at this point, I would not have used this agent in principle as a result of his approach. Irrespective of his 'cover', it put me under undue pressure and was something I should not have had to worry about.
As I said, in the end I was more measured in my response. I simply emailed him saying that I was waiting on the decision of the role I'd already applied for, and that he wasn't to contact me through any avenues not offered on my CV in future.
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