'Colleague' on long term sick

[mph1977]

Deva Link said:

mph1977 said:

edc said:

There is no definitive answer but I have unfortunately had to dismiss a handful of people for capability / absence in the past couple of years. Others who have had problems we have instigated the procedures, set the targets, got relevant reports where necessary and managed their absence to aan improved situation.

Long term absence by it's nature means dismissal is normally months rather than days or weeks.

As a rough plan after 4 weeks schedule a home visit.

not a good idea at all , can be interpreted as harassment

Not sure which bit you're saying is harrassment, but quite a lot of public bodies (councils etc) send a nurse to do a home visit the same (first) day someone calls in sick.

And in my wife's civil service department, where some people would have you believe no-one ever gets sacked, they managed a woman out who was forever off with stress, blaming the pressure of work. It took several months but they they firmly pursued it.

The potential harassment is when Management , rather than occy health take it on themselves to start coming round to people's houses...

[Robsti]

Dr Jekyll said:

A friend of mine answered application form questions as follows.


Q: How many days were you off sick in the last 12 months?

A: Zero

Q: what was the reason/s?

A: Self employed.

Many a true word spoken in jest!

[edc]

mph1977 said:

Deva Link said:

mph1977 said:

edc said:

There is no definitive answer but I have unfortunately had to dismiss a handful of people for capability / absence in the past couple of years. Others who have had problems we have instigated the procedures, set the targets, got relevant reports where necessary and managed their absence to aan improved situation.

Long term absence by it's nature means dismissal is normally months rather than days or weeks.

As a rough plan after 4 weeks schedule a home visit.

not a good idea at all , can be interpreted as harassment

Not sure which bit you're saying is harrassment, but quite a lot of public bodies (councils etc) send a nurse to do a home visit the same (first) day someone calls in sick.

And in my wife's civil service department, where some people would have you believe no-one ever gets sacked, they managed a woman out who was forever off with stress, blaming the pressure of work. It took several months but they they firmly pursued it.

The potential harassment is when Management , rather than occy health take it on themselves to start coming round to people's houses...

Nothing wrong with that either. I encourage all my managers to maintain contact and visit where agreeable and appropriate. I even accompany them if needed or if they are unsure of how to handle situations. Unless the individual is not mobile then they would attend at the office of the occupational health provider.

[MagicalTrevor]

mph1977 said:

Trevor, was that directed towards me ?

I'm a Health Professional with a long term health condition and have worked in specialised rehab so have quite a lot of exposure to the system from all sides.

Yes it was, thank you for answering. I was curious

[mph1977]

edc said:

Nothing wrong with that either. I encourage all my managers to maintain contact and visit where agreeable and appropriate. I even accompany them if needed or if they are unsure of how to handle situations. Unless the individual is not mobile then they would attend at the office of the occupational health provider.

you encourage your managers to maintain contact with agreement which is rather different, than the approach which I can see some of the 'powerfully built company directors' that populate PH from doing on the basis of your advice.