Reed Recruitment..
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You will find that you are not given much room to 'be different' you'll have minimum phone times, certain protocol that MUST be followed, you won't be allowed to email etc.
Its very much a job where you will hammer the phone, and the results will come from being able to hammer it more than the rest. At low level recruitment that is all it is I would think. The few recruiters I've dealt with at low level salary jobs seem to take this approach, and its not because they want to...
Its very much a job where you will hammer the phone, and the results will come from being able to hammer it more than the rest. At low level recruitment that is all it is I would think. The few recruiters I've dealt with at low level salary jobs seem to take this approach, and its not because they want to...
okgo said:
You will find that you are not given much room to 'be different' you'll have minimum phone times, certain protocol that MUST be followed, you won't be allowed to email etc.
Its very much a job where you will hammer the phone, and the results will come from being able to hammer it more than the rest. At low level recruitment that is all it is I would think. The few recruiters I've dealt with at low level salary jobs seem to take this approach, and its not because they want to...
Thanks for the info, should hear something in the next few days hopefully. I thought that at least with a company such as Reed they are a big name that most people know about so when cold calling clients you have that little bit credibility over say a small firm that no ones heard of. All pie in the sky yet really as they might not want be after yesterday ha.Its very much a job where you will hammer the phone, and the results will come from being able to hammer it more than the rest. At low level recruitment that is all it is I would think. The few recruiters I've dealt with at low level salary jobs seem to take this approach, and its not because they want to...
caprirob said:
Ah recruitment - its all about Shiny suits, pointy shoes, hair product and new minis.
Having just been through the employment-seeking mill ( and ended up getting a job by applying direct to a firm rather than going through a recruiter ) the evidence I have seen leads me to the conclusion that the recruitment industry is where estate agents go when they fancy a career change.
I have been a recruiter for over 23 years. Don't wear a suit, comfy shoes, no hair these days and drive a BMW (was Porsches and Ferrari's before the downturn). But then I take pride in what I do.Having just been through the employment-seeking mill ( and ended up getting a job by applying direct to a firm rather than going through a recruiter ) the evidence I have seen leads me to the conclusion that the recruitment industry is where estate agents go when they fancy a career change.
Perhaps the recruiters you saw were useless or perhaps you were!
It's all about finding the right recruiter for your experience and expertise.
bad company said:
I have been a recruiter for over 23 years. Don't wear a suit, comfy shoes, no hair these days and drive a BMW (was Porsches and Ferrari's before the downturn). But then I take pride in what I do.
Perhaps the recruiters you saw were useless or perhaps you were!
It's all about finding the right recruiter for your experience and expertise.
You are wasting your time Bad Company, I have tried many many times on here to defend our noble profession. Perhaps the recruiters you saw were useless or perhaps you were!
It's all about finding the right recruiter for your experience and expertise.
Funnily enough lots of people don't recongnise that at best we might find work for 40 - 50 people a year personally, but be approached by nearly 10 times that figure...
Can't win.
Gargamel said:
You are wasting your time Bad Company, I have tried many many times on here to defend our noble profession.
Funnily enough lots of people don't recongnise that at best we might find work for 40 - 50 people a year personally, but be approached by nearly 10 times that figure...
Can't win.
Fair point. The way I look at it recruiting has earned me enough to buy 3 Ferrari's at different times including 2 new 1 of which was a factory collection. I have also run several Porkas and TVR's. Now at the grand old age of 56 I am about to retire. No too bad!Funnily enough lots of people don't recongnise that at best we might find work for 40 - 50 people a year personally, but be approached by nearly 10 times that figure...
Can't win.
That is very good, although not the norm I would imagine?
The reason most people despise recruiters (much like car salesman, and estate agents) is because the vast majority of them are un-professional, arrogant, rude, and s
t at their jobs. Not to mention the fact that generally they fit a tttish stereotype ( big hair, ste suits, wky ties etc). There are plenty of good recruiters I'm sure, the same as there are plenty of good estate agents. But most peoples only contact with these people is negative because of the above.
The reason most people despise recruiters (much like car salesman, and estate agents) is because the vast majority of them are un-professional, arrogant, rude, and s
t at their jobs. Not to mention the fact that generally they fit a tttish stereotype ( big hair, ste suits, wky ties etc). There are plenty of good recruiters I'm sure, the same as there are plenty of good estate agents. But most peoples only contact with these people is negative because of the above.Useless, they 'looked after' the company I worked for after 300 people faced redundancy and they managed to not find a job for a single one of them, what does that tell you?
Oh they give you nice booklets, and lots of positive rubbish about how they know you'll get a job... But that's it, totally and utterly useless.
Oh they give you nice booklets, and lots of positive rubbish about how they know you'll get a job... But that's it, totally and utterly useless.
bad company said:
caprirob said:
Ah recruitment - its all about Shiny suits, pointy shoes, hair product and new minis.
Having just been through the employment-seeking mill ( and ended up getting a job by applying direct to a firm rather than going through a recruiter ) the evidence I have seen leads me to the conclusion that the recruitment industry is where estate agents go when they fancy a career change.
I have been a recruiter for over 23 years. Don't wear a suit, comfy shoes, no hair these days and drive a BMW (was Porsches and Ferrari's before the downturn). But then I take pride in what I do.Having just been through the employment-seeking mill ( and ended up getting a job by applying direct to a firm rather than going through a recruiter ) the evidence I have seen leads me to the conclusion that the recruitment industry is where estate agents go when they fancy a career change.
Perhaps the recruiters you saw were useless or perhaps you were!
It's all about finding the right recruiter for your experience and expertise.
I wouldnt waste my time or an employers time applying for a job I don't have the experience or skills to do - yet still they were hopeless.
The vast majority of the ones who contacted me were offering jobs which were either crap, or totally wrong for what I was looking for - despite being very clear on my CV about what my skills and experience were in and what I was looking to do with them.
I've tried to use recruiters every time I've changed jobs - and every time its the same crappy experience.
Once again the job I got ( which I start on Monday ) was via a direct application to the employer - and ticks all the boxes in terms of salary, location, working hours - unlike most of the garbage these so-called recruitment specialists were trying to get me to apply for.
It seems to me that most of the moans about recruiters come from those who paying nothing for the service ie job seekers. Remember that the recruiter only gets paid if he fills the job. If he has better candidates then he will work on those first. A few years ago we had a shortage of candidates now it is the other way around.
bad company said:
It seems to me that most of the moans about recruiters come from those who paying nothing for the service ie job seekers. Remember that the recruiter only gets paid if he fills the job. If he has better candidates then he will work on those first. A few years ago we had a shortage of candidates now it is the other way around.
My moan is about the continuous phone calls asking "how I am" and "just touching base" and "didn't United do well at the weekend?" and then finally, after 5 minutes of inane conversation (where my monosyllabic replies are verging on rude) we get to "any vacancies? any vacancies coming up? any vacancies in other Departments?" and worst of all "any jobs that I'm looking at?" 
.Now I understand they have a job to do but if I need anybody I will call YOU. I have a shedload of business cards, diaries, coasters, and keyrings with your number and logo plastered on them. The phrase "don't call us, we'll call you" could not be more apt.
AND - if I've already told you to go away please don't phone any of my staff asking if they've got any jobs on offer.
Countdown said:
My moan is about the continuous phone calls asking "how I am" and "just touching base" and "didn't United do well at the weekend?" and then finally, after 5 minutes of inane conversation (where my monosyllabic replies are verging on rude) we get to "any vacancies? any vacancies coming up? any vacancies in other Departments?" and worst of all "any jobs that I'm looking at?" .
Now I understand they have a job to do but if I need anybody I will call YOU. I have a shedload of business cards, diaries, coasters, and keyrings with your number and logo plastered on them. The phrase "don't call us, we'll call you" could not be more apt.
AND - if I've already told you to go away please don't phone any of my staff asking if they've got any jobs on offer.
Sounds like just about every sales call I receive. If you don't have a vacancy why take the call?.Now I understand they have a job to do but if I need anybody I will call YOU. I have a shedload of business cards, diaries, coasters, and keyrings with your number and logo plastered on them. The phrase "don't call us, we'll call you" could not be more apt.
AND - if I've already told you to go away please don't phone any of my staff asking if they've got any jobs on offer.
We never 'cold call'.
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