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okie592

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1,498 posts

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Looking to do an apprenticeships in engineering, Or any apprenticeship really,

who did you work for?
did you enjoy it?
do you still work for them now?


Mainly looking at either marine, energy, aerospace, transport ,nuclear or defence, but cant think of many companies to apply for

based in wales is a bonus

JB!

3,845 posts

49 months

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okie592 said:
Looking to do an apprenticeships in engineering, Or any apprenticeship really,

who did you work for?
did you enjoy it?
do you still work for them now?


Mainly looking at either marine, energy, aerospace, transport ,nuclear or defence, but cant think of many companies to apply for

based in wales is a bonus
Network Rail
Sort of.
Yes.

Bounce me an email an I'll go into more detail.

alexander.cusdin@networkrail.co.uk

unclemark123

638 posts

77 months

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I spent 4 years training to be an electrician. Did I enjoy it? Sometimes, depended on where I was working to be honest.

If I could start over again I would train as an engineer, mechanical maybe, and try to specialise in nuclear. Interesting work and big £. (I'm currently on nuclear work)

crofty1984

9,876 posts

73 months

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I work in Engineering (degree route) and my brother did an apprenticeship to be a welder, so I've seen both sides of the coin.

While you're an apprentice you'll get not much pay, but they will train you up properly with decent skills, that you will get proper qualifications for. See if you can get into oil and gas/energy. That's where the money is when you're further on in your career. They all want experience too. It counts for a lot.

A lot of jobs I've seen specify "degree or relevant HND" so there's no glass ceiling as such. Work hard, learn on the job and get the relevant qualifications and you can do really well for yourself.

Also, AIUI any company doing a proper apprenticeship scheme has to do a proper job of it or questions get asked. So starting as an apprentice you DO have recourse to go "They're not meeting their responsibilities" whereas if you start on the bottom rung normally, there's nothing to stop whoever you get a job with keeping you as floor-sweeper for 3 years.

srob

6,487 posts

107 months

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I did a design apprenticeship with Lotus, which I started in 1997. I couldn't recommend it highly enough, it teaches you so much more than what the apprenticeship is in, especially if you start straight from school. There's also an awful lot of hands on jobs going, and an apprenticeship at a known company is still worth its weight in gold on your CV. Shows that you were responsible enough to stick at something from a young age, as much as anything! Money's often ste, but look at the long game.

Be careful though, if you do an apprenticeship somewhere you're always thought of as 'the boy' for as long as you work there. I left just after mine - not through choice - and noticed it with my mates that hadn't left when I came back!

Edited by srob on Thursday 17th May 13:03

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JB!

3,845 posts

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srob said:
One thing I would say though, is that if you do an apprenticeship somewhere, leave after. Otherwise, you're always 'the boy'. I did just that, and I'm now back at Lotus as a man and love it smile
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srob

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JB! said:
srob said:
One thing I would say though, is that if you do an apprenticeship somewhere, leave after. Otherwise, you're always 'the boy'. I did just that, and I'm now back at Lotus as a man and love it smile
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You got in before my edit hehe

I didn't want it to read as though I'd got what I wanted then buggered off. I didn't leave by choice smile

BoRED S2upid

9,428 posts

109 months

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Get yourself to as many college open days as you can.

JB!

3,845 posts

49 months

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srob said:
You got in before my edit hehe

I didn't want it to read as though I'd got what I wanted then buggered off. I didn't leave by choice smile
I moved internally. best decision ever.

okie592

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1,498 posts

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crofty1984 said:
I work in Engineering (degree route) and my brother did an apprenticeship to be a welder, so I've seen both sides of the coin.

While you're an apprentice you'll get not much pay, but they will train you up properly with decent skills, that you will get proper qualifications for. See if you can get into oil and gas/energy. That's where the money is when you're further on in your career. They all want experience too. It counts for a lot.

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Hydro power, nuclear decommissioning and Aerospace and rail are the 3 main areas im most intrested in, followed by transport etc

Edited by okie592 on Thursday 17th May 20:38

okie592

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JB! said:
Network Rail
Sort of.
Yes.

Bounce me an email an I'll go into more detail.

alexander.cusdin@networkrail.co.uk
Ive emailed you cheers!

MG CHRIS

2,687 posts

36 months

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I would defently go down the apprentership route i went down the motor vehicle side and wouldn't say enjoyed every minute but it was the best decsion ive made im just finishing my last year and the experiance you get is much greater than through education via college or uni. The pay is not brilliant and you have to stick it out but in the long term you have a trade behind you after you have finished you can do what ever you want you will always be wanted.

As previous poster said leave after you have finished or you will be always considered as the boy expecially in the motor trade im in the process of working out what to do next but whatever happens i have a trade behind me and that is the one main thing you need in these times.

bucksmanuk

515 posts

39 months

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okie592 said:
Hydro power, nuclear decommissioning and Aerospace and rail are the 3 main areas im most intrested in, followed by transport etc

Edited by okie592 on Thursday 17th May 20:38
Hydro? In Britain?
All the easy sites for hydro have been done. It’s just the tough ones from here on in.
Unless you are thinking tidal power, this is going to be MASSIVE, and then there are potential tidal barrages.
Whether you morally agree with it, nuclear is the way to go. There will be work for centuries on that.

okie592

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bucksmanuk said:
Hydro? In Britain?
All the easy sites for hydro have been done. It’s just the tough ones from here on in.
Unless you are thinking tidal power, this is going to be MASSIVE, and then there are potential tidal barrages.
Whether you morally agree with it, nuclear is the way to go. There will be work for centuries on that.
Tidal defo, the severn barrage is going to be massive if it ever goes ahead, i agree with nuclear on every level, its the best of what we have, but theres no nuclear stations in south wales and EDF who run hinkley Point in somerset arent currently recruiting

Jimmy No Hands

1,796 posts

25 months

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How difficult is it for someone in their 20's to get an apprenticeship? I know they prefer fresh out of school due to the funding they receive. I applied for several a year or two back and heard nothing. Always thought my age would be a factor.

JB!

3,845 posts

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Jimmy No Hands said:
How difficult is it for someone in their 20's to get an apprenticeship? I know they prefer fresh out of school due to the funding they receive. I applied for several a year or two back and heard nothing. Always thought my age would be a factor.
It's hard to live on apprentice money, and even harder to be "boy" in your 20's.

okie592

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JB! said:
It's hard to live on apprentice money, and even harder to be "boy" in your 20's.
Most of the apprenticeships i have been applying for have been for a good rate of pay TBH, still sort of £14k a year which is a bit more than what im on now as a retail advisor.

Bt for instance was 12k starting and 10% pay rise everyyear.

JB!

3,845 posts

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okie592 said:
Most of the apprenticeships i have been applying for have been for a good rate of pay TBH, still sort of £14k a year which is a bit more than what im on now as a retail advisor.

Bt for instance was 12k starting and 10% pay rise everyyear.
NWR is 8, 12, 14.

Pugland53

423 posts

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okie592 said:
Looking to do an apprenticeships in engineering, Or any apprenticeship really,

who did you work for?
did you enjoy it?
do you still work for them now?


Mainly looking at either marine, energy, aerospace, transport ,nuclear or defence, but cant think of many companies to apply for

based in wales is a bonus
I did an apprenticeship in mechanical engineering for British Steel/Corus/Tata (south Wales) in the early 90's. At the time I intended to complete my apprenticeship and move on, but I ended up staying for 15 years. I enjoyed it at first and studied part time to HNC/HND level. However after a few years I got bored with engineering and fancied a complete career change, so four years ago left and joined the railway, it was the best move I ever made and I thoroughly enjoy it.
I will say though that even though it didnt work out for me, I still believe apprenticeships are an excellent opportunity for young people.

Gorilla Boy

7,348 posts

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I did a 4 year mechanical fitting apprenticeship with a small company and it wasn't that structured. Try and get yourself with a bigger company as the schemes and systems they have in place will be more established.
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