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texasjohn
2,663 posts
100 months
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A very senior CV I saw recently had the chap's salary and benefit package for his most recent role (his current role at the time his CV was written) then for each previous employment a reason for leaving. He also had his years of employment in each role rather than specific dates ie. 2005-2010 not May 2005 to Jan 2010, IYSWIM.
It's the first time I had seen reasons for leaving and current salary/package explicit in a CV. It was a US CV so not sure if just the done thing in the states or not.
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Mattt
14,765 posts
87 months
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72EuropaTC said: In which case I don't think you have anything to worry about if it's something like this....
2011 XYZ Co Contract assignment blah, blah,...
2010 - 2011 PQR Co Permanent role blah, blah,... Redundancy owing to liquidation
2010 WWW Co Contract assignment blah, blah,...
2009 MMM Co Contract assignment blah, blah,...
2008 XXX Co Permanent role blah, blah,... Redundancy owing to cost savings
2007 ABC Co Permanent role blah, blah,... Redundancy owing to cost savings
IMO an employment history like this over the past few years such is unlikely to be uncommon or viewed upon with scorn.
If the reasons for leaving are as you say, then be up front in the CV - perversely, if the rest of your CV is solid, a run like that might even get you a sympathy interview. Seeing a number of redundancies on one CV would ring alarm bells for me. It could be a case of true misfortune, or it could say something about aptitude/ability.
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72EuropaTC
206 posts
76 months
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Mattt said: Seeing a number of redundancies on one CV would ring alarm bells for me. It could be a case of true misfortune, or it could say something about aptitude/ability. The redundancies are explained. As the OP has pointed out, his situation may put people off, so being up front tries to set such thoughts aside. There will need to be a disclosure at some point: either at interview or on the employer's own application form (which people are often obliged to fill-in even after having submitted a CV). One would hope that issues regarding "aptitude/ability" would be drawn out at interview - as would any issues regarding attitude etc. IMO being up front, open, and presenting things in a matter of fact way, showing that you haven't got anything to hide, is the best way to go. OK, so some hirers will have their own view on these kinds of CV - the OP is better off disregarding them and thinking of it as their loss, not his.
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rog007
3,039 posts
93 months
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I'd be more than happy to cast a critical eye over your CV Ray. And I'm always interested to see how CVs with Job Centre input end up.
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HairyBeast
97 posts
68 months
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Good afternoon PH massive,
cutting a long story short, I am about to start looking for another job. after being with the same employer for 22 years. started as an apprentice then machinist, quality and finaly technical sales.
My CV is very bare on the job front as I have only worked for the one company. will this count against me, when applying for other jobs?
Does loyalty count for anything these days.
regards Hairy
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wormburner
6,380 posts
122 months
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So it's one employer, but a succession of jobs, of ascending seniority. That looks great.
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edc
3,926 posts
120 months
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Recruiters will question your ability to adapt to different environments; your propensity for change and if you are attempting to change industries, then depending on your job role, you may find it hard as you haven't done it before. But a good stable background with increasing responsibility is always good.
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rog007
3,039 posts
93 months
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A forward thinking employer would be most interested in whether you can do the job (that you have applied for), whether you still enjoy doing the job and would you fit their organisation; who you have worked for previously should not be their prime concern. As to your CV; as long as it is crafted with skill and amplifies your competecies then you should be able to compete fairly. Happy to provide feedback if that would add any value. Good luck!
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AJS-
9,974 posts
105 months
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Contract work - not bad as such, but some people are hesitant about hiring someone with a contractor mentality to do a full time role. Will you be committed to the company? Will you take on board the strategic direction of the company or just view it as a means to an end. Also, contractors tend not to get training and career development to the same level as permanent staff, unless they fund it themselves, so you might be relatively under-qualified compared with candidates who have been in the same role for the last 6 years.
That said, as noted above experience in a variety of organisations can be beneficial as well.
Redundancy - can't be helped, however a true cynic might say companies tend to trim the "deadwood" when there's a round of redundancies, yet try to cling to the good people.
You can tackle both of these. Regarding contracting, I would state in the covering letter that you are looking to be part of a company. Follow this up in the interview and make clear that you're not just going for a perm role because you don't like the look of the contracting market over the next few months.
Regarding redundancy, it can be quite difficult to show that you're not the dreaded deadwood but normal interview rules apply - show performance against KPIs, achievements and a good attitude, explain the situation and why your role disappeared, and it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Europa - I don't know many employers who give interviews out of sympathy, but you're right having redundancies since 2007/8 isn't really that surprising.
As to those who say lie - I would definitely not advise this. As a headhunter I have come across this a few times and nothing puts you off a candidate faster than finding out they lied on their CV. And that includes lying by omission. Finding out from them tripping up and contradicting themselves while talking to you is bad, finding out from a referee even worse.
Fair enough, you don't need to put the 2 weeks temp work in 1994 on there, but omitting a recent, relevant stint with another employer, or adding 6 months on to the job before are both likely to get you sprung, make you look very bad and cast doubt on nearly every aspect of your CV and claimed achievements. Unless you're absolute gold dust, or the only man in the world with a particular skill set (in which case why lie?) then this will simply mean you get dropped.
And no, everyone else doesn't do it. I've had the pleasure of meeting many candidates with documented, checkable work histories and references to back it up going back 20 years. If they've done a spell of contracting, been made redundant, quit a job after 6 months because it wasn't what they were expecting or even just royally screwed up in some way and got the sack, it is still not nearly as bad as deliberately lying on your CV.
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