Anyone on here a (London) bus driver?

Anyone on here a (London) bus driver?

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vit4

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3,507 posts

170 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Wasn't sure whether to put this in Commercial Break or here, but it's job related and advice here always seems good smile

I had always thought that you had to be 21 to hold a PCV licence, found out a few days ago that it is actually 18. Long-term, I would like to get into mainline train driving, so I'm giving serious consideration to applying to become a bus driver as a sort of stepping stone for the next few years. I have Arriva, Stagecoach, First and Go-Ahead garages all within a couple of miles of me as well, although Go-Ahead specifically mentions that it doesn't take on Trainee drivers in my area.

I am 19 (20 in a couple of weeks), with 2 and a 1/2 years on a full UK manual licence. No claims, no points etc. I've driven about 40,000 miles since passing in all environments, often driving all day so I've got experience of being at the wheel for long periods of time, no idea whether that's relevant or not. I am a confident driver, I tend to drive very smoothly and economically (mostly because I'm a tight git but I don't think I'll mention that hehe) and can't envision having a problem handling the size of a bus. Arriva in particular say they are taking on drivers on their website, and I fit all of the requirements. However I was wondering if because of my age I wouldn't even be considered? Earlier this year I served a five month contract for another TfL department in a safety-critical/customer services capacity, which I assume will help smile

I understand that with the companies that train you themselves you are tied in for a period of time, but as I said I expect to be there for at least a few years so I'm not worried about that smile Would it be better to do my PCV licence privately though? Paying for it isn't an issue but I don't want to do that if not having it wouldn't make any difference to my chances of being employed in the job!

If anyone does have any feedback regarding whether or not I would likely get a look in or any comments and advice from anyone who has worked the job I would very much appreciate it! Thank you thumbup.

Seti

1,921 posts

204 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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I ride in them alot which obviously makes me an expert in the area.....

To me it looks like a job with very little satisfaction (other than the ability to slowly pull away from stops as people run desperately towards them).

I think it will require a certain mentality to be able to shrug of all the abuse you're likely to receive.

vit4

Original Poster:

3,507 posts

170 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Seti said:
I ride in them alot which obviously makes me an expert in the area.....

To me it looks like a job with very little satisfaction (other than the ability to slowly pull away from stops as people run desperately towards them).

I think it will require a certain mentality to be able to shrug of all the abuse you're likely to receive.
hehe Happened to me many a time.

Regards the satisfaction I can see what you mean, but I am pretty sure that I would be alright with that; I am (genuinely) enthusiastic about the transport industry, and the earlier contract I did sort of reaffirmed that enthusiasm. In the last job (working on stations) I got more than my fair share of stick from passengers, doesn't bother me in the slightest and (I like to think) I'm pretty good at dealing with and diffusing(sp?) confrontational situations. I'm very thick-skinned when working and leave it at work so not too worried about that aspect biggrin

BIG BAVARIAN

452 posts

210 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Service bus work is a thankless job at best, stuck on the same route eight hours a day, the main thing that nearly all bus drivers both present and past complain of is the verbal and or violent abuse you will take the brunt of, i.e if the bus before you breaks down you will be blamed for being late. !!

Where i live in West Yorkshire First Bus are permanently recruiting, drivers leave faster than they can train new drivers up, i have been told the management of said company are a bunch of bullying Nazi's, I have also been told driving the night bus on a saturday night (kicking out time) around a local council estate is quite an eye opener when the drunks and druggies climb aboard expecting free transportation home. Good luck you will need it.

WestYorkie

1,811 posts

195 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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I'm a bus driver in west Yorkshire and have been for 14 Years(sounds like an AA meeting).
IIRC You can't drive more than X amount of miles from depot below 21. I find it quite rewarding most of the time. Some are good days some are bad but you get to drive around in all weathers warm and dry (It helps having a fleet of new buses).

You sound like you'd enjoy it. But be careful, I went thinking I'd be there around 12 months. But it's the best job I've had. I'm also hoping to get "on the trains" but hey ho I'm in a secure job as long as you keep your nose clean it's a decent wage for a decent job.

Best of luck.

vit4

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3,507 posts

170 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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WestYorkie said:
I'm a bus driver in west Yorkshire and have been for 14 Years(sounds like an AA meeting).
IIRC You can't drive more than X amount of miles from depot below 21. I find it quite rewarding most of the time. Some are good days some are bad but you get to drive around in all weathers warm and dry (It helps having a fleet of new buses).

You sound like you'd enjoy it. But be careful, I went thinking I'd be there around 12 months. But it's the best job I've had. I'm also hoping to get "on the trains" but hey ho I'm in a secure job as long as you keep your nose clean it's a decent wage for a decent job.

Best of luck.
Cheers for the reply, very encouraging smile

I've decided that I'm definitely going for it, so fingers crossed I get an assessment day. From Monday I'm going to speak to the other local operators who aren't doing training and see whether it would be worth me doing my licence privately and take it from there smile

Mr Snap

2,364 posts

157 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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Ignore the negative comments, if you want to drive buses and think you'd enjoy it, go for it.

I'm not a bus driver but I've done a lot of work that brings me in to contact with bus drivers. I was amazed - totally knocked back - at how much the majority of these people quite simply love their work. There was one guy, an ex bank manager, who retired early, just to fulfil his ambition of driving a bus..!

You're only 19, you've got time to try things out. If, in the end, you discover bus driving isn't for you, you'll have learnt something about yourself. But I seriously doubt you'll regret it.

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

213 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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My mate in Dorset drives them, earns £25k a year and loves it. Hard to pass the test apparently.

SmoothCriminal

5,052 posts

199 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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What you want to know?

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

213 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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harveybobbles said:
That seems quite high outside London.
He does overtime but basic is £23k. In his opinion it's a great wage for an average job.

harveybobbles

154 posts

141 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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sparks_E39 said:
harveybobbles said:
That seems quite high outside London.
He does overtime but basic is £23k. In his opinion it's a great wage for an average job.
Just looked on the local bus company's website; trained starting salary is £20k so I guess £23k seems about right with a few years experience!

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

213 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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harveybobbles said:
Just looked on the local bus company's website; trained starting salary is £20k so I guess £23k seems about right with a few years experience!
He's been there 4 years, yeah it's gone up.

italianjob1275

567 posts

146 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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A mate of mine did continental coach tours for a 18-30 type operator.

He said he got a lot of sex, EVERYONE wants to sleep with the coach driver for some reason...

Just thought I'd mention it like...

italianjob1275

567 posts

146 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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A mate of mine did continental coach tours for a 18-30 type operator.

He said he got a lot of sex, EVERYONE wants to sleep with the coach driver for some reason...

Just thought I'd mention it like...

vit4

Original Poster:

3,507 posts

170 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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Just thought that I'd update this; I have an interview & assessment day for one of the companies in a few weeks, so fingers crossed biggrin

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

213 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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vit4 said:
Just thought that I'd update this; I have an interview & assessment day for one of the companies in a few weeks, so fingers crossed biggrin
Good luck!

SmoothCriminal

5,052 posts

199 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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What one

vit4

Original Poster:

3,507 posts

170 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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SmoothCriminal said:
What one
PM'd smile

Mr Snap

2,364 posts

157 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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Good luck.

croyde

22,848 posts

230 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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All the best.