Mrs wants to earn money from home.
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mikef said:
Obvious MLM (aka pyramid scheme) from this chap's first post. Only money is in recruiting more mugs (that would be the PMs on this thread - have some dignity folks)
Everyone I entitled to their opinion, I can see that's yours is a very narrow minded one and seems like you have been tricked or had a bad experience with a pyramid scheme before. As I have already stated this is not a pyramid scheme, it is essentially a franchise with zero over heads.I replied to the original poster and other people wanted more info on this, I have taken my time to reply and get sck to these people, to try and help them and offer a solution to their problems. If they chose to take my help/advice that is up to them, I am an honest hard working guy and wouldn't do anything to scam or trick anyone, for those that have taken the time to read my pm and are not interested I thank them for taking the time and respect that this bint for everyone. I have not mentioned anywhere that this is a get rich quick scheme, like everything in life you will get out what you put in, so for those people who are open minded and willing to try something different and willing to work hard for a better quality of life, I would say it is very dignified in trying to seek out the options.
Just to clarify as to what my girlfriend is actually doing…
This business model is called network marketing, she is working under the umbrella of a multination company which specialises in health and beauty. The aim is to have 20-25 customers spending an average of £25 per month this, this works out to be around £150-£250 proift per month, this is the base of your business. She also recruits over people into our team.
The umbrella company will pay a bonus from your personal sales and the sales of your team, they can do this because they are operating in over 150 countries, have zero debt, zero shareholders, $1.5 billion in assets, and a turn over of $2.75 billion.
We are currently earning a steady £600 per month and this is only going to increase as we develop our team.
I hope this has cleared up a few things for some people, again anyone that is still interested and needs some details then I am more than willing to offer advice and answer any questions you have.
Thanks
This business model is called network marketing, she is working under the umbrella of a multination company which specialises in health and beauty. The aim is to have 20-25 customers spending an average of £25 per month this, this works out to be around £150-£250 proift per month, this is the base of your business. She also recruits over people into our team.
The umbrella company will pay a bonus from your personal sales and the sales of your team, they can do this because they are operating in over 150 countries, have zero debt, zero shareholders, $1.5 billion in assets, and a turn over of $2.75 billion.
We are currently earning a steady £600 per month and this is only going to increase as we develop our team.
I hope this has cleared up a few things for some people, again anyone that is still interested and needs some details then I am more than willing to offer advice and answer any questions you have.
Thanks
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php...
lots of discussion some for, most against here - lot of work for tiny odds of success I'm afraid.
lots of discussion some for, most against here - lot of work for tiny odds of success I'm afraid.
Edited by Atlantic on Wednesday 23 October 00:23
escargot said:
It is pyramid selling mate. Good luck to her but peddling it on PH probably isn't the wisest thing to do.
Just out of interested why do you believe this to e a pyramid scheme? Hopefully I can then clear it up. I am not trying to pedal this, hence why I went to pm. I only wrote a brief breakdown to clear a few things up.
I'm guessing it's this https://www.foreverliving.com/marketing/Home.do It's Multi level marketing/network marketing same as Kleeneze, Avon etc. It's not pyramid but it's not far off it. How do you think these companies get so vastly wealthy? s
t loads of people buying their huge mark up products to try and make themselves a promised lifestyle but actually making £500(if they're lucky)a month...
t loads of people buying their huge mark up products to try and make themselves a promised lifestyle but actually making £500(if they're lucky)a month...I'm not going to keep repeating myself over and over about this. There is potential to earn good money from this, close friends of mine are working full time doing this and have a good income £60k+ pa. Obviously they have worked hard to get here they are, they haven't achieved it overnight and like everything in life it hasn't been handed to them on a plate. End of the day it is a business, no business is going to make you rich from putting in a couple of hours here and there. If you hve a goal and are determined to get there, there is only one person holding you back from reaching it.
Is my girlfriend or myself wrong or bad people for wanting to better ourselves using this as a second income? (We are registered with hmrc before anyone asks) At any point have I said this is easy? All I was doing is offering a solution to a problem. So sorry if anyone is offended by it, the business is working well for me and my girlfriend and some of our team members (the hard working ones), good luck to everyone wishing to make a second income or trying to better themselves.
Is my girlfriend or myself wrong or bad people for wanting to better ourselves using this as a second income? (We are registered with hmrc before anyone asks) At any point have I said this is easy? All I was doing is offering a solution to a problem. So sorry if anyone is offended by it, the business is working well for me and my girlfriend and some of our team members (the hard working ones), good luck to everyone wishing to make a second income or trying to better themselves.
Rig,
FWIW I think that you have handled this the right way.
Yes, I think that it is a venture that I would not wish to be involved in but you have only reacted to the interest of others and not throw it down people's throats. Indeed you have gone out of your way to stay inside the T&C's short of not replying or going all silent.
Some posters need to stop being quite so cynical all the time. These things are not for many of us and some may well deride them but Rig hasn't done anything other than answer straight questions with straight answers and the only obfusification has been to try NOT to come across as pushing Gogo berries or whatever onto those that do not ask!
FWIW I think that you have handled this the right way.
Yes, I think that it is a venture that I would not wish to be involved in but you have only reacted to the interest of others and not throw it down people's throats. Indeed you have gone out of your way to stay inside the T&C's short of not replying or going all silent.
Some posters need to stop being quite so cynical all the time. These things are not for many of us and some may well deride them but Rig hasn't done anything other than answer straight questions with straight answers and the only obfusification has been to try NOT to come across as pushing Gogo berries or whatever onto those that do not ask!
Rig Monkey said:
Just to clarify as to what my girlfriend is actually doing…
This business model is called network marketing, she is working under the umbrella of a multination company which specialises in health and beauty. a turn over of $2.75 billion.
Wouldn't begin with A would it ? They tried to mug my girl into it. This business model is called network marketing, she is working under the umbrella of a multination company which specialises in health and beauty. a turn over of $2.75 billion.
Rig Monkey said:
As someone has already said network marketing. This is not a pyramid scheme. Everyone pays the same price for the product and everyone buys it from the same place, nothing is pushed down and there is no pyramid selling scheme.
If you're not interested just say. It isn't for everyone. Just thought it was a solution to one guys problems and many others wanted the information, it might be ideal or some people and hopefully we can help some people.
So she gains no benefit from signing new people, e.g. A percentage of their sales.If you're not interested just say. It isn't for everyone. Just thought it was a solution to one guys problems and many others wanted the information, it might be ideal or some people and hopefully we can help some people.
Edited by Rig Monkey on Tuesday 22 October 00:41
My wife does the same with NYR, but mainly because she uses the products in her main business, she doesn't push to sign new people up.
There is nothing wrong with MLM. IT is possible to earn money from it and be ethical etc etc. If you enjoy networking, dealing with people, its an ok way to make some money.
The best way to make a living from home is to work at what you love. Is there a hobby or pastime your other half really enjoys?.
My OH is an artist ( This means I support her) She took an interest in pottery about two years ago, and took a couple of courses. She specializes in gargoyles, green man plaques, moons, suns, that sort of thing. She posted pictures of her work on Facebook, and now people are asking to buy stuff. She clears about 400 a month at the mo, but its going up every month, enough so that we are thinking about setting up an atelier for her ( we are in the process of moving to carcassonne).
Remote secretarial work is a rapidly growing field, my daughter does some remote paralegal work, part time and its very lucrative. My parents were home publishers, and that grew into a business employing 20 people.
Just as in any work earning a living working from home is not instant, and you have to work harder to sell because you are not in an office, and dont have that daily interaction.
My personal opinion is that you need to stay away from any business that depends on someone else, its not hard to incorporate an MLM company into your business, so you dont depend on selling only their stuff, and most MLM's have no objection to you doing this.
Finally, she will make the most money if she creates something or fills a demand from consumers, other businesses etc. by supplying a service. such as secretarial work/ accountancy. there are all sorts of places to sell created goods, ETSY, Ebay, Amazon, etc etc
hope this helps
The best way to make a living from home is to work at what you love. Is there a hobby or pastime your other half really enjoys?.
My OH is an artist ( This means I support her) She took an interest in pottery about two years ago, and took a couple of courses. She specializes in gargoyles, green man plaques, moons, suns, that sort of thing. She posted pictures of her work on Facebook, and now people are asking to buy stuff. She clears about 400 a month at the mo, but its going up every month, enough so that we are thinking about setting up an atelier for her ( we are in the process of moving to carcassonne).
Remote secretarial work is a rapidly growing field, my daughter does some remote paralegal work, part time and its very lucrative. My parents were home publishers, and that grew into a business employing 20 people.
Just as in any work earning a living working from home is not instant, and you have to work harder to sell because you are not in an office, and dont have that daily interaction.
My personal opinion is that you need to stay away from any business that depends on someone else, its not hard to incorporate an MLM company into your business, so you dont depend on selling only their stuff, and most MLM's have no objection to you doing this.
Finally, she will make the most money if she creates something or fills a demand from consumers, other businesses etc. by supplying a service. such as secretarial work/ accountancy. there are all sorts of places to sell created goods, ETSY, Ebay, Amazon, etc etc
hope this helps
And Rude Boy I'm with you on this people should stop being so cynical.
Many people moan (not just on PH) about lack of money, hate their job, hate the boss etc. Yet when they see another in a similar position trying to better themselves they shoot them down. I've seen comments on this thread about "a garage full of stuff they couldn't shift".
But isn't that just the same as a "conventional" business? If you by stock and don't sell it is that the fault of the business model or you?
Taking an industry we can all relate to - some motor related business are a success whilst other fail - is that the fault of the motor industry or the people running the business?
MLM is not a pyramid as in the UK it is illegal for A. The parent company to charge more than £199 to join it B. any person introducing another to an MLM company to earn money from them in directly doing so.
FYI I did MLM about 3 years ago - I have zero down-line so don't earn money off anyone - which if I did incidentally is exactly like being employed - your boss earns money off you in your 9-5. I am not active at all yet the income I still make from my customers each month pays for my holiday each year (which is not, before some wit jumps in, a £99 weekend in a B & B!)
If MLM works for you then do it. If it doesn't then don't. Do your homework, make your decision sign-up or move on.
Many people moan (not just on PH) about lack of money, hate their job, hate the boss etc. Yet when they see another in a similar position trying to better themselves they shoot them down. I've seen comments on this thread about "a garage full of stuff they couldn't shift".
But isn't that just the same as a "conventional" business? If you by stock and don't sell it is that the fault of the business model or you?
Taking an industry we can all relate to - some motor related business are a success whilst other fail - is that the fault of the motor industry or the people running the business?
MLM is not a pyramid as in the UK it is illegal for A. The parent company to charge more than £199 to join it B. any person introducing another to an MLM company to earn money from them in directly doing so.
FYI I did MLM about 3 years ago - I have zero down-line so don't earn money off anyone - which if I did incidentally is exactly like being employed - your boss earns money off you in your 9-5. I am not active at all yet the income I still make from my customers each month pays for my holiday each year (which is not, before some wit jumps in, a £99 weekend in a B & B!)
If MLM works for you then do it. If it doesn't then don't. Do your homework, make your decision sign-up or move on.
Proper businesses rely on the sale of specific products or services to generate income and profit. Schlock businesses of this sort CAN'T make profits in this conventional manner. They only make money by recruiting more sellers. SOME people (usually those in at the start) MIGHT make some money from this. The vast majpority who get involved invariably end up spending more on the enterprise than making anything from it.
Thank you to the people that understand and for backing me up in regards to the reasons why I decided to tell you guys.
The many people who haven't succeeded in this have either been lazy or unsupported. Losing money is virtually impossible, unless like any other business you spend more than you earn.
If anyone is still interested then pm me
Thanks
The many people who haven't succeeded in this have either been lazy or unsupported. Losing money is virtually impossible, unless like any other business you spend more than you earn.
If anyone is still interested then pm me
Thanks
And that indicates that it cannot be a genuine business activity. NO business can guarantee profits.
And the inability to generate profits its very rarely down to the traders stupidity. If someone has that attitude then it indicates to me they haven't a clue what is entailed in running a genuine business and is more concerned in hyping up a scam.
The very fact that the thread was opened in the "Jobs and Employment" forum rather than the "Business" forum indicates to me that the people involved in such false businesses aren't even clued up as to what constitutes a genuine trading activity.
And the inability to generate profits its very rarely down to the traders stupidity. If someone has that attitude then it indicates to me they haven't a clue what is entailed in running a genuine business and is more concerned in hyping up a scam.
The very fact that the thread was opened in the "Jobs and Employment" forum rather than the "Business" forum indicates to me that the people involved in such false businesses aren't even clued up as to what constitutes a genuine trading activity.
Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 29th October 08:35
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