Mrs wants to earn money from home.

Mrs wants to earn money from home.

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Eric Mc

122,017 posts

265 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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True - apologies to the OP.

Although a lot of "work from home" scheme expect people to be "self employed", which as far as HMRC are concerned, is trading as a business.

Hoofy

76,352 posts

282 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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Maybe - not sure the OPer's intention is to deceive HMRC. Not at this stage, anyway. hehe

Eric Mc

122,017 posts

265 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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Hoofy said:
Maybe - not sure the OPer's intention is to deceive HMRC. Not at this stage, anyway. hehe
I'm sure it isn't. But people who embark on any "earning" enterprise (self employed or otherwise) should be aware of their responsibilities under UK tax law.

worsy

5,804 posts

175 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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There is a guy posting in the local facebook sale group about Forever Living. Makes my skin crawl every time I see the whole bullcrap american driven tosh. Sadly it seems designed to prey on the vulnerable.

OTE of 60k a month......pfft

singlecoil

33,593 posts

246 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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worsy said:
There is a guy posting in the local facebook sale group about Forever Living. Makes my skin crawl every time I see the whole bullcrap american driven tosh. Sadly it seems designed to prey on the vulnerable.

OTE of 60k a month......pfft
One thing they always emphasise is how it all depends on putting in plenty of hard work (so that when it goes wrong, it's because you didn't work hard enough). But people are usually happy to put in plenty of work, what they are not so happy to do is to pester their friends, relatives, acquaintances and work colleagues into purchasing stuff at prices that could never be achieved in shops, and into joining the organisation.

worsy

5,804 posts

175 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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Just looked in my local facebook job page..... Sadly each post was a different OP (urls removed)

Post 1
This month we will earn over £2000 part time with kleeneze around a family and other work

Like to find out how you could do the same ?

We are looking for catalogue distributors who want to earn an extra £100 a week 10/15 hrs
team leaders who want an extra £1000 a month 15/20 hrs
interested in finding out more?

Post 2
Do you need to get healthier? Do you need to slim down? Do you need more energy? Do you want to feel better? Do you need an extra income?

Post 3
Need a second income or looking for a new career then visit

Post 4
I'm looking for one person to join my team and work with me flexibly around your other commitments. If you are interested in any of the following please get in touch.

£200-£500 per month simply retailing our products
£1,500-£2000 per month coaching and mentoring
£2000+ per month as a team leader/business developer

Post 5
Anyone out there looking for a job that is flexible and can fit in around current commitments such as a full-time job or children??? or are you just looking for some extra income???
RECRUITING NOW... DON'T MISS OUT ON THIS LIFE CHANGING OPPORTUNITY!!!

I am currently looking to recruit & train a few quality, self-motivated and enthusiastic individuals to join our expanding team. This opportunity offers an uncapped earning potential and a variety of incentives, but most importantly offers complete work life balance.

Flexible hours to suit you, part-time or full-time... you decide! All it needs is a little bit of commitment.

Please inbox me now to find out more about this amazing opportunity!

Post 6
Are you bored of your job? Fed up of doing more than everyone else and getting nothing in return? Bored of being told what to do and how to do it?
Want to see something new? Come and talk to me about the amazing opportunites that being your own boss with Forever Living can bring you!!
The chance to retire In 5 years, the chance for an expenses paid training and holiday to America next year and the chance to meet lots of new people that are driven, motivated and business minded like you!!

singlecoil

33,593 posts

246 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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worsy said:
Exciting stuff!
Wouldn't these people do better if they were to tone it down a bit and make their offer a bit more realistic? Or do they only target really gullible people?

Hoofy

76,352 posts

282 months

Tuesday 29th October 2013
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And desperate...

TotalJobs is spammed silly with trainee trader jobs. Earn £20k-£80k in your first year!

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Found this thread after a woman tried to recruit my wife to sell Forever Living Products.

I've done my research and this stuff is overpriced tat that you can buy from Holland & Barratt for much less.
The woman said she doesn't get bonus for recruiting others, what she didn't mention is she gets a percentage of the sales that everyone 5 levels below her sells, which in itself is basically a bonus for signing others up.

Nobody in their right mind takes a successful business and then dilutes it's own customer base with increased competition in the same geographic area. It's pyramid selling under another name, and when the friends and family are fed up of buying there is no business without getting other mugs to do the same.

Avoid like the plague. It's unethical brainwashing at best.

Ki3r

7,817 posts

159 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Zoon said:
Found this thread after a woman tried to recruit my wife to sell Forever Living Products.

I've done my research and this stuff is overpriced tat that you can buy from Holland & Barratt for much less.
The woman said she doesn't get bonus for recruiting others, what she didn't mention is she gets a percentage of the sales that everyone 5 levels below her sells, which in itself is basically a bonus for signing others up.

Nobody in their right mind takes a successful business and then dilutes it's own customer base with increased competition in the same geographic area. It's pyramid selling under another name, and when the friends and family are fed up of buying there is no business without getting other mugs to do the same.

Avoid like the plague. It's unethical brainwashing at best.
Is that what this thread was about? Friend on Facebook is posting constantly about it. Only have her in there still as she is hot...

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Ki3r said:
Is that what this thread was about? Friend on Facebook is posting constantly about it. Only have her in there still as she is hot...
Yes, the woman I'm talking about has become obsessed by it and mentions it every five minutes on facebook. It's all amazing and she's doing so well, so well in fact she needs to recruit more people in the same 3 square miles to fulfil all the orders.

Either that or she doesn't get all the commission unless she gets enough mugs working under her.

You have to question the pricing of the products when each one can sustain a percentage of profits for 6 levels of managers above each salesperson, not to mention the parent company.

In summary:- overpriced rubbish for simple naive people to buy and try to sell.

roboxm3

2,417 posts

195 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Zoon said:
Yes, the woman I'm talking about has become obsessed by it and mentions it every five minutes on facebook. It's all amazing and she's doing so well, so well in fact she needs to recruit more people in the same 3 square miles to fulfil all the orders.

Either that or she doesn't get all the commission unless she gets enough mugs working under her.

You have to question the pricing of the products when each one can sustain a percentage of profits for 6 levels of managers above each salesperson, not to mention the parent company.

In summary:- overpriced rubbish for simple naive people to buy and try to sell.
I have one that features on my FB newsfeed on a daily basis, posting the most cringe-worthy pics and videos about how amazing her new business venture is, so much so that everybody she meets and knows through said venture are now her best friends who inspire her bla bla bla bla...

Constantly going on about the "free" cars that are dished out as a reward for being such successful entrepreneurs (too thick to think about how much money they've given to and made for this wonderful and charitable brand).



BoRED S2upid

19,698 posts

240 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Brummmie said:
My wife is stuck at home with our 2 year old twins and wants to earn some pin money, she has seen surveys online that award points which you can redeem, however to me you have to be constanly at it to earn not alot.
Is there anything out there that she could earn say £20-30 a day for a little time from home...
Taking her kit off is not an option! hehe
She doesn't have to take her kit off. And going by this thread there will be loads of hand cream going spare wink

PorkInsider

5,888 posts

141 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Zoon said:
Yes, the woman I'm talking about has become obsessed by it and mentions it every five minutes on facebook. It's all amazing and she's doing so well, so well in fact she needs to recruit more people in the same 3 square miles to fulfil all the orders.

Either that or she doesn't get all the commission unless she gets enough mugs working under her.

You have to question the pricing of the products when each one can sustain a percentage of profits for 6 levels of managers above each salesperson, not to mention the parent company.

In summary:- overpriced rubbish for simple naive people to buy and try to sell.
I know a guy who's fallen into this trap, too.

I would honestly not have expected it of him; he's a bright bloke, had a good senior management career, MBA and an engineering degree, definitely not one of those people you'd class as just academically clever but without common sense.

At first I thought he'd perhaps stumbled into it when between jobs or something, but he's been at it for years now. I can't see him making much out of it but I do wonder if it's now a personal challenge to him to actually make it to the level of automatic income these schemes seem to reckon is the norm?

Although, it could just be early onset dementia, or similar, I suppose...

FrankAbagnale

1,702 posts

112 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Brummmie said:
My wife is stuck at home with our 2 year old twins and wants to earn some pin money, she has seen surveys online that award points which you can redeem, however to me you have to be constanly at it to earn not alot.
Is there anything out there that she could earn say £20-30 a day for a little time from home...
Taking her kit off is not an option! hehe
I would focus on your local market place and supplying something to very local people. Make a twitter and instagram account and hashtag the sh*t out of local tags.

Get her baking cakes in the kitchen for kids birthdays etc. If the aim is to keep her busy and make £30 a day she wouldn't need much business. Low start up costs too.

If cakes isn't her thing what about making candles? Or, buying old furniture on ebay and upcyling it? My mrs has just started "upcycling" and loves it. She doesn't sell it but similar things seem to fetch a bit of cash on ebay.

  • AFAIK upcycling is sanding everything down to its bare bones and caking the bloody thing in farrow and ball paint.
Edited by FrankAbagnale on Wednesday 20th May 17:45


Edited by FrankAbagnale on Wednesday 20th May 17:46

The Moose

22,847 posts

209 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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Apparently I left my misses unattended on the Internet a while back and she's signed herself up to some MLM scheme (none of the ones mentioned on this thread).

She's an intelligent girl with a business degree but keeps telling me "this one's different"!!

Ultimately, if being a salesman for their products was so profitable, surely they'd employ people to sell for them.

She has no reasoned come back on that point and gets all huffy.

Apparently it'll be different and I'll understand when I read more about it. We'll see!

Now, where have I put those magic beans wink

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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Any normal business person would want to eliminate competition whereas Forever Living actually encourage it!
It's a pyramid scheme in a dress, the people at the top earn the most and the underlings earn very little until they've built their pyramid. It's not a business, it's a recruitment scheme.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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Bloke is skint. Tells wife she will have to go on the game. He leaves for work, she puts an advert up on gumtree. Later, bloke arrives home and asks how much money the wife made. £87.50, she says.

"Which bd gave you the 50p?"

"Er... all of them."

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

116 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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Had to spend days convincing my wife this was not a business and she was not missing out.

Went to the local fireworks last year to see a couple of families looking glum behind stalls trying to sell Foreever crap.

TankRizzo

7,269 posts

193 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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All the FLbots get told what to say and what to post. All inspirational quote crap and pictures of their "office" which is their laptop in a garden.

Strangely there are no pictures of them hounding every single person they know to either buy the overpriced tat or join the pyramid scheme.