Employers taking the ****.....
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18 Year old step-lad has started his first job today. I'm waiting for the call to pick him up...
13 hours, and he will have earned £34. £2.68 per hour.
Apparently he can be paid this low because he's been taken on an apprenticeship.
The skill that he is acquiring.... Waiting on tables.
I'm absolutely livid, but can't fight his battles for him. But it seems that what was to enable young workers to lean a trade/skill is now being used to take the piss.
Had to share - I certainly had no idea the minimum wage was so easy to side step.
13 hours, and he will have earned £34. £2.68 per hour.
Apparently he can be paid this low because he's been taken on an apprenticeship.
The skill that he is acquiring.... Waiting on tables.
I'm absolutely livid, but can't fight his battles for him. But it seems that what was to enable young workers to lean a trade/skill is now being used to take the piss.
Had to share - I certainly had no idea the minimum wage was so easy to side step.
DSLiverpool said:
Certainly on our scheme they get visited monthly, have set hours and agreed days then at the end of the course we need a good reason not to take them on - I have employed every one so far.
I think the company isn't playing by the rules
Reread the OP, it's the kids first day. I think the company isn't playing by the rules
Edited by Vaud on Monday 7th July 22:48
OP, that's poor.
My lad is 18 and started a paid summer internship today. He's on £50/day for a 7.5 hour day. And fortunate to be doing something he wants to do for a living so loved it today and can't wait to get to work tomorrow.
Mind you, to is credit, he has worked incredibly hard for a couple of years for nothing (over and above doing his A levels) to get him in the position to be offered this opportunity.
My lad is 18 and started a paid summer internship today. He's on £50/day for a 7.5 hour day. And fortunate to be doing something he wants to do for a living so loved it today and can't wait to get to work tomorrow.
Mind you, to is credit, he has worked incredibly hard for a couple of years for nothing (over and above doing his A levels) to get him in the position to be offered this opportunity.
I take on apprentices.
Max hours is 37hrs.
one day a week at college.
I pay considerably more than the minimum as I to feel it's a piss take, all my apprentices have been offered full time jobs at the end on mans wages.
We are not all bad.
Some take them for 13 weeks only, they then get their grant, get rid of them and start the process again. Horrid.
Max hours is 37hrs.
one day a week at college.
I pay considerably more than the minimum as I to feel it's a piss take, all my apprentices have been offered full time jobs at the end on mans wages.
We are not all bad.
Some take them for 13 weeks only, they then get their grant, get rid of them and start the process again. Horrid.
He's been under pressure to find something, and to his credit has. He has been well rewarded in a suitably PH way.
He also has a couple of irons in the fire that might lead to something better paid with decent prospects. I don't think his current employer can expect any loyalty.
Helpfully he was due to finish at 10. He has now missed the last bus. I will be very unimpressed if they don't put him in a taxi (and no doubt I'll be collecting him too!).
He also has a couple of irons in the fire that might lead to something better paid with decent prospects. I don't think his current employer can expect any loyalty.
Helpfully he was due to finish at 10. He has now missed the last bus. I will be very unimpressed if they don't put him in a taxi (and no doubt I'll be collecting him too!).
HaloGen8 said:
Thats rough but credit to the guy - he could be sat watching TV or on an Xbox but at least after 13 hours some life skills will have been earnt and learned.
A pat on the back I'd say even though the financial gain is poor.
True, the last thing this lads needs are gaps on his CV, because periods of not being in work, training or education get employers moving onto the next CV in the pile.A pat on the back I'd say even though the financial gain is poor.
However, an apprenticeship in waiting tables sounds hokey as anything, when I was in high school / 6th form I was a waiter, and all the other service staff were kids my age, also in education, we all knew we weren't staying after uni. I doubt anyone wants an apprenticeship in table service, it's not exactly a lifelong vocation. It sounds like this employer is just abusing the system for free labour.
OP, your son will find it easier to get another job as long as he is currently "employed", so tell him to stick with it and look for something better. Even if he is stacking shelves in a supermarket, he'll get minimum wage and will be earning double his current wage.
Young lad at work (marina workshop) has been working there longer than me... he has accepted an apprenticeship offer so is taking a pay cut from £6.50ph down to around £3ph
Either that or lose his job to someone willing to become an apprentice on that dismal wage
yet more evidence that our manager is a not that we fking well needed it
If I didn't love the job so much and like the money... @£7.50ph (my current rate) I'd tell him exactly what I thought of him and walk.
NB: I get a £1ph raise every 6 months... the theory being if I haven't been "let go" I must be good enough to earn it
Either that or lose his job to someone willing to become an apprentice on that dismal wage
yet more evidence that our manager is a not that we fking well needed it
If I didn't love the job so much and like the money... @£7.50ph (my current rate) I'd tell him exactly what I thought of him and walk.
NB: I get a £1ph raise every 6 months... the theory being if I haven't been "let go" I must be good enough to earn it
Mastodon2 said:
OP, your son will find it easier to get another job as long as he is currently "employed", so tell him to stick with it and look for something better. Even if he is stacking shelves in a supermarket, he'll get minimum wage and will be earning double his current wage.
Agreed. Also whilst serving he could stumble across his next prospective employer - right place right time sort of thing.It will all work out in the end - I'm sure you will assist where you can
I started as an apprentice 7 years ago. I'm not a fan of this apprenticeship = cheap labour deal, you join as an apprentice to learn a trade to (potentially) sort you out for life.
That said, your steplad has started on the bottom rung. Sounds crap, but he has to start somewhere. I'd echo the comments above and use this as a stepping stone into a better field of employment - and who knows, maybe he'll get lucky and wait on someone senior in a field he really wants to get into?
Best wishes to the chap and if he ever wants someone to talk to about engineering apprenticeships, send a PM my way.
That said, your steplad has started on the bottom rung. Sounds crap, but he has to start somewhere. I'd echo the comments above and use this as a stepping stone into a better field of employment - and who knows, maybe he'll get lucky and wait on someone senior in a field he really wants to get into?
Best wishes to the chap and if he ever wants someone to talk to about engineering apprenticeships, send a PM my way.
Well just picked him up.
He enjoyed it, but I like nothing that i hear.
Bloke pays cash at the end of month. High staff turnover. Apparently hours go missing. Tip jars go nowhere near staff etc.... Staff who leave don't get paid...
He's had two bits of interest from national insurance companies today, so hopefully something will come out of that.
My blood is boiling.
He enjoyed it, but I like nothing that i hear.
Bloke pays cash at the end of month. High staff turnover. Apparently hours go missing. Tip jars go nowhere near staff etc.... Staff who leave don't get paid...
He's had two bits of interest from national insurance companies today, so hopefully something will come out of that.
My blood is boiling.
We've employed a couple at our work - we're an admin department so basically it's just an excuse to get two extra people and pay them nothing. If it's something like an electrician or mechanic I can understand since once you're qualified you'll earn a reasonable amount, but even if they get kept on they'll only be on about £13k p.a!
surveyor said:
Well just picked him up.
He enjoyed it, but I like nothing that i hear.
Bloke pays cash at the end of month. High staff turnover. Apparently hours go missing. Tip jars go nowhere near staff etc.... Staff who leave don't get paid...
He's had two bits of interest from national insurance companies today, so hopefully something will come out of that.
My blood is boiling.
He sounds like a keen young man. This will just be a very temporary stop gap. Big respect to him. You must be one proud dad. He enjoyed it, but I like nothing that i hear.
Bloke pays cash at the end of month. High staff turnover. Apparently hours go missing. Tip jars go nowhere near staff etc.... Staff who leave don't get paid...
He's had two bits of interest from national insurance companies today, so hopefully something will come out of that.
My blood is boiling.
surveyor said:
Well just picked him up.
He enjoyed it, but I like nothing that i hear.
Bloke pays cash at the end of month. High staff turnover. Apparently hours go missing. Tip jars go nowhere near staff etc.... Staff who leave don't get paid...
He's had two bits of interest from national insurance companies today, so hopefully something will come out of that.
My blood is boiling.
Tips are interesting. He should learn to encourage direct tipping, and learn a little about the tronkmaster. He is learning, even a bad employer gives him knowledge. He enjoyed it, but I like nothing that i hear.
Bloke pays cash at the end of month. High staff turnover. Apparently hours go missing. Tip jars go nowhere near staff etc.... Staff who leave don't get paid...
He's had two bits of interest from national insurance companies today, so hopefully something will come out of that.
My blood is boiling.
Jayessgee said:
surveyor said:
Well just picked him up.
He enjoyed it, but I like nothing that i hear.
Bloke pays cash at the end of month. High staff turnover. Apparently hours go missing. Tip jars go nowhere near staff etc.... Staff who leave don't get paid...
He's had two bits of interest from national insurance companies today, so hopefully something will come out of that.
My blood is boiling.
He sounds like a keen young man. This will just be a very temporary stop gap. Big respect to him. You must be one proud dad. He enjoyed it, but I like nothing that i hear.
Bloke pays cash at the end of month. High staff turnover. Apparently hours go missing. Tip jars go nowhere near staff etc.... Staff who leave don't get paid...
He's had two bits of interest from national insurance companies today, so hopefully something will come out of that.
My blood is boiling.
He has turned a corner... He knows we are pleased as I bought a third car at the weekend for him to learn to drive in that will become his once the test is passed...
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