Good idea to take this job?
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Tonberry said:
The state of this f
king country.
Why did you both even feel the need to stop and ponder this let alone ask it on a public forum.
Because not everybody knows the answer to everything?king country.Why did you both even feel the need to stop and ponder this let alone ask it on a public forum.
Because sometimes (although deep dwn you know the answer) there's no harm in getting a second opinion?
FWIW I have two kids that have been through similar situations and in my last company we took on interns and fresh graduates.
I'd say for an intern job £17.5k is about the going rate. Two years ago my youngest was looking at internships with big companies, outside London, and the salaries ranged from £14.5 - £16k. Similar roles in London were around £18k. (This was two years ago now)
My advice would be not worry about the starting salary but just to get in, make an impact and build a network. Do all this well and at the end of the year the chances are that a permanent role will emerge. In my youngest's case she chose not to go back to the multi-national where she was an intern at £14.5k even though the jobs they wanted her to apply for, post-graduation, were at £28k plus benefits. The fact that she had worked previously for half the salary is irrelevant. Her status would have changed from intern to permanent. The qualifications would have little to do with it as she was already known and rated among the hiring managers within the company; she had proven herself. The fact that your GF is in a large company helps because they are likely to have more rigid grading systems that should prevent them form taking advantage of the low starting salary. In any event companies have to watch out these days on equal pay legislation.
I'd say for an intern job £17.5k is about the going rate. Two years ago my youngest was looking at internships with big companies, outside London, and the salaries ranged from £14.5 - £16k. Similar roles in London were around £18k. (This was two years ago now)
My advice would be not worry about the starting salary but just to get in, make an impact and build a network. Do all this well and at the end of the year the chances are that a permanent role will emerge. In my youngest's case she chose not to go back to the multi-national where she was an intern at £14.5k even though the jobs they wanted her to apply for, post-graduation, were at £28k plus benefits. The fact that she had worked previously for half the salary is irrelevant. Her status would have changed from intern to permanent. The qualifications would have little to do with it as she was already known and rated among the hiring managers within the company; she had proven herself. The fact that your GF is in a large company helps because they are likely to have more rigid grading systems that should prevent them form taking advantage of the low starting salary. In any event companies have to watch out these days on equal pay legislation.
I'm sure one of my friends was an intern at a major consultancy on similar cash, Did his year, got offered a post on double the money at the end of the year, and a £10k starting bonus.
Its an opportunity to prove herself. Worst case, she gets 12 months of real experience to put on the CV....
Its an opportunity to prove herself. Worst case, she gets 12 months of real experience to put on the CV....
Doing a PHD doesn't necessarily make you more employable or able to achieve a higher salary. I went through 100 cvs this week for an analyst position and I'd rather see a couple of years of interesting experience than someone who's not yet made it out of university.
If she's just starting her careers the very best advice is to build as much experience and a great CV in areas that help her where she wants to go - at the expense of salary (so far as practical). Your early career sets you up for subsequent years - chase the money later on!
If she's just starting her careers the very best advice is to build as much experience and a great CV in areas that help her where she wants to go - at the expense of salary (so far as practical). Your early career sets you up for subsequent years - chase the money later on!
Speaking as a PhD, I suggest your partner goes for the job and sticks with it for about 12 months before moving on. It will be easier for her to find a better job once she has proven she has a year's work experience.
A Batchelor's degree gives you the breadth of knowledge/skills but a PhD means your knowledge tends to be very specialised in a narrow field which doesn't always translate well to the workplace.
When I qualified I couldn't get a job in my narrow research field so I went for a more general technical sales role on about £20k as my first job. A few jobs later and I am now on a reasonable £45k+ package with lots of perks like international travel, etc. I do think the PhD helps you to stand out from the crowd once you also have work experience to back you up. Of course, some other people have fantastic careers with very few formal qualifications.
Good luck to her!
A Batchelor's degree gives you the breadth of knowledge/skills but a PhD means your knowledge tends to be very specialised in a narrow field which doesn't always translate well to the workplace.
When I qualified I couldn't get a job in my narrow research field so I went for a more general technical sales role on about £20k as my first job. A few jobs later and I am now on a reasonable £45k+ package with lots of perks like international travel, etc. I do think the PhD helps you to stand out from the crowd once you also have work experience to back you up. Of course, some other people have fantastic careers with very few formal qualifications.
Good luck to her!
Edited by FreeLitres on Monday 18th August 12:46
conanius said:
I'm sure one of my friends was an intern at a major consultancy on similar cash, Did his year, got offered a post on double the money at the end of the year, and a £10k starting bonus.
Its an opportunity to prove herself. Worst case, she gets 12 months of real experience to put on the CV....
That's the right way to look at it.Its an opportunity to prove herself. Worst case, she gets 12 months of real experience to put on the CV....
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