Is MSc worth it over BEng and Experience?
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I wanted to ask this question but I will keep it separate from the other thread I have going about a job offer.
I have just graduated from University with a BEng in Mechanical Engineering. I already have one job offer for a Graduate Design Engineer and I am in the application process for two other similar roles.
Along with this I applied for an MSc in Advanced Mechanical Engineering and I have an offer for a place at a University belonging to the Russell group - which my graduating university is not. I'm unsure whether spending an additional year doing an MSc is really going to be worth it in the long run (£5,000 fees + living costs for the next 12M) such as a better graduate job, increase in salary, general better academic understanding.
I feel now if any would be a good time to complete an MSc rather than going back in a few years if I did indeed need it.
So my question is really if a BEng along with a year of Experience will in reality leave me in a better position than a BEng, MSc and no graduate experience (I do have an industrial placement during University). The main difference for me would be paying out £15k~ vs making around £22k~ for this next year..
Any thoughts?
I have just graduated from University with a BEng in Mechanical Engineering. I already have one job offer for a Graduate Design Engineer and I am in the application process for two other similar roles.
Along with this I applied for an MSc in Advanced Mechanical Engineering and I have an offer for a place at a University belonging to the Russell group - which my graduating university is not. I'm unsure whether spending an additional year doing an MSc is really going to be worth it in the long run (£5,000 fees + living costs for the next 12M) such as a better graduate job, increase in salary, general better academic understanding.
I feel now if any would be a good time to complete an MSc rather than going back in a few years if I did indeed need it.
So my question is really if a BEng along with a year of Experience will in reality leave me in a better position than a BEng, MSc and no graduate experience (I do have an industrial placement during University). The main difference for me would be paying out £15k~ vs making around £22k~ for this next year..
Any thoughts?
Edited by Conor D on Monday 18th August 15:25
Chartership IME=Masters. Integrated Masters courses (MEng) seems to be common place with our latest grads as the courses were specifically designed with this in mind.
I can't really help as my Masters was funded by work which if an employer is offering to pay your fees and time is a no brainer!. It made the chartership straight forward. Has either made a difference to my career progression? Can't say it has. If I picked up a CV would I be more keen on the guy with experience over the MSc? Definitely.
I totally see where you're coming from, if you don't do it now you might never do it. But you have a job offer so I'd say take it. Did you ask about sponsorship for this sort of thing in the recruitment progress? If you show you're a good working a worth investing in your new employer may pay for it in the future.
Russell group thing I was largely ignorant of that tbh. Didn't even realise my old Uni was in 'the group' until recently.
I can't really help as my Masters was funded by work which if an employer is offering to pay your fees and time is a no brainer!. It made the chartership straight forward. Has either made a difference to my career progression? Can't say it has. If I picked up a CV would I be more keen on the guy with experience over the MSc? Definitely.
I totally see where you're coming from, if you don't do it now you might never do it. But you have a job offer so I'd say take it. Did you ask about sponsorship for this sort of thing in the recruitment progress? If you show you're a good working a worth investing in your new employer may pay for it in the future.
Russell group thing I was largely ignorant of that tbh. Didn't even realise my old Uni was in 'the group' until recently.
Thanks for your thoughts.
I already have a great 12M experience from the placement during my Undergraduate which I imagine with continued experience now would leave me in good stead in the future.
The Russell Group thing is something that's on my mind but I think this will only really come into play if I do apply for any larger firms in the future. Regardless I have a lot to consider.
a311 said:
Chartership IME=Masters. Integrated Masters courses (MEng) seems to be common place with our latest grads as the courses were specifically designed with this in mind.
I can't really help as my Masters was funded by work which if an employer is offering to pay your fees and time is a no brainer!. It made the chartership straight forward. Has either made a difference to my career progression? Can't say it has. If I picked up a CV would I be more keen on the guy with experience over the MSc? Definitely.
I was under the impression that Chartership was also possible with a BEng accompanied with demonstrating practical experience equivalent to masters level.I can't really help as my Masters was funded by work which if an employer is offering to pay your fees and time is a no brainer!. It made the chartership straight forward. Has either made a difference to my career progression? Can't say it has. If I picked up a CV would I be more keen on the guy with experience over the MSc? Definitely.
I already have a great 12M experience from the placement during my Undergraduate which I imagine with continued experience now would leave me in good stead in the future.
a311 said:
I totally see where you're coming from, if you don't do it now you might never do it. But you have a job offer so I'd say take it. Did you ask about sponsorship for this sort of thing in the recruitment progress? If you show you're a good working a worth investing in your new employer may pay for it in the future.
Russell group thing I was largely ignorant of that tbh. Didn't even realise my old Uni was in 'the group' until recently.
I would consider deferring the MSc admission until 2015/16 that if I do decide I can potentially return to do it then.Russell group thing I was largely ignorant of that tbh. Didn't even realise my old Uni was in 'the group' until recently.
The Russell Group thing is something that's on my mind but I think this will only really come into play if I do apply for any larger firms in the future. Regardless I have a lot to consider.
Conor D said:
I would consider deferring the MSc admission until 2015/16 that if I do decide I can potentially return to do it then.
The Russell Group thing is something that's on my mind but I think this will only really come into play if I do apply for any larger firms in the future. Regardless I have a lot to consider.
Yes you can still get chartership it's just not as straight forward.The Russell Group thing is something that's on my mind but I think this will only really come into play if I do apply for any larger firms in the future. Regardless I have a lot to consider.
I'm an engineering manager, our organisation has pay band/scales- as a graduate you'd come in on the same pay scale regardless of having a masters or not. If you had prior experience you'd get in at a higher band most likely. It's a tough decision would be interested to hear what having an masters offer in terms of potential earning over a bachelors degree only.
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