Problem at work
Discussion
So today I get the news that I have broken a HR rule and will be facing a disciplinary and possibly the sack!
As background, I work for a large company (for 20 years) and manage a small (sub 30) team of roughly 70/30 women to men. Of late we've hired a couple of attractive women (stunners) and I have therefore enforced the dress code more rigorously which is business casual.
Given the attractiveness I asked the ladies to wear skirts etc to brighten up the office which most were happy to go along with. For some reason colleague A ( let's say you will not be surprised to know she is a pig dog) refused and pointed out this wasn't the dress code. To be fair it isn't but is my version of.
Anyway things settle down but standards slipped so I've pushed the code more of late. Shortish skirts and no flat shoes.
All are ok with this new push on standards with the exception of pig dog who has reported me to HR and the Union!
Long story short HR had me in for a chat and have said I've broken various regulations. I couldn't deny it as I have 20 women who will say I've put the policy in place. 95% of them were happy with the policy and I've had comments from other departments on how smart we are looking. In hind site mainly from men.
So, given I can't deny what I've done, any tips on how to handle this. Surely this can't be a stackable offence? It's PC ,madness!
As background, I work for a large company (for 20 years) and manage a small (sub 30) team of roughly 70/30 women to men. Of late we've hired a couple of attractive women (stunners) and I have therefore enforced the dress code more rigorously which is business casual.
Given the attractiveness I asked the ladies to wear skirts etc to brighten up the office which most were happy to go along with. For some reason colleague A ( let's say you will not be surprised to know she is a pig dog) refused and pointed out this wasn't the dress code. To be fair it isn't but is my version of.
Anyway things settle down but standards slipped so I've pushed the code more of late. Shortish skirts and no flat shoes.
All are ok with this new push on standards with the exception of pig dog who has reported me to HR and the Union!
Long story short HR had me in for a chat and have said I've broken various regulations. I couldn't deny it as I have 20 women who will say I've put the policy in place. 95% of them were happy with the policy and I've had comments from other departments on how smart we are looking. In hind site mainly from men.
So, given I can't deny what I've done, any tips on how to handle this. Surely this can't be a stackable offence? It's PC ,madness!
Maybe I'm just explaining this badly, it's been a long day. I wouldn't have sacked them for non compliance.
It was a code that we aspired to and most were ok with this. If they were not happy they could say no and that would have been it. Reporting it to HR and the Union is not on.
I've had a number of calls from colleagues who can't believe whats happened.
Thanks for the input though and I guess the pig dog comment is a little off....I'm just slightly bitter
It was a code that we aspired to and most were ok with this. If they were not happy they could say no and that would have been it. Reporting it to HR and the Union is not on.
I've had a number of calls from colleagues who can't believe whats happened.
Thanks for the input though and I guess the pig dog comment is a little off....I'm just slightly bitter
ikarl said:
If you worked for me, I would sack you.
Your attitude 'larger pig dog' 'stunners' etc absolutely stinks. You might think its PC gone wrong but most of these rules are here for a reason. You seem to be completely unable to accept that.
I agree.Your attitude 'larger pig dog' 'stunners' etc absolutely stinks. You might think its PC gone wrong but most of these rules are here for a reason. You seem to be completely unable to accept that.
Maybe the OP is exaggerating a bit for the sake of PH but I would not work alongside a man who thinks that terms like that are in any way acceptable.
Trousers at a push. Like I said if they didn't want to adopt the dress code then that was ok.
If you worked somewhere and the uniform was provided would you get to specify the length of skirt? Maybe you get the choice of trousers but could you choose the skirt length?
All I was trying to do was bring in some standards and uniformity and admittedly giving the chance for the stunners to shine!
If you worked somewhere and the uniform was provided would you get to specify the length of skirt? Maybe you get the choice of trousers but could you choose the skirt length?
All I was trying to do was bring in some standards and uniformity and admittedly giving the chance for the stunners to shine!
CAH706 said:
So today I get the news that I have broken a HR rule and will be facing a disciplinary and possibly the sack!
As background, I work for a large company (for 20 years) and manage a small (sub 30) team of roughly 70/30 women to men. Of late we've hired a couple of attractive women (stunners) and I have therefore enforced the dress code more rigorously which is business casual.
Given the attractiveness I asked the ladies to wear skirts etc to brighten up the office which most were happy to go along with. For some reason colleague A ( let's say you will not be surprised to know she is a pig dog) refused and pointed out this wasn't the dress code. To be fair it isn't but is my version of.
Anyway things settle down but standards slipped so I've pushed the code more of late. Shortish skirts and no flat shoes.
All are ok with this new push on standards with the exception of pig dog who has reported me to HR and the Union!
Long story short HR had me in for a chat and have said I've broken various regulations. I couldn't deny it as I have 20 women who will say I've put the policy in place. 95% of them were happy with the policy and I've had comments from other departments on how smart we are looking. In hind site mainly from men.
So, given I can't deny what I've done, any tips on how to handle this. Surely this can't be a stackable offence? It's PC ,madness!
Unbelievable!!As background, I work for a large company (for 20 years) and manage a small (sub 30) team of roughly 70/30 women to men. Of late we've hired a couple of attractive women (stunners) and I have therefore enforced the dress code more rigorously which is business casual.
Given the attractiveness I asked the ladies to wear skirts etc to brighten up the office which most were happy to go along with. For some reason colleague A ( let's say you will not be surprised to know she is a pig dog) refused and pointed out this wasn't the dress code. To be fair it isn't but is my version of.
Anyway things settle down but standards slipped so I've pushed the code more of late. Shortish skirts and no flat shoes.
All are ok with this new push on standards with the exception of pig dog who has reported me to HR and the Union!
Long story short HR had me in for a chat and have said I've broken various regulations. I couldn't deny it as I have 20 women who will say I've put the policy in place. 95% of them were happy with the policy and I've had comments from other departments on how smart we are looking. In hind site mainly from men.
So, given I can't deny what I've done, any tips on how to handle this. Surely this can't be a stackable offence? It's PC ,madness!
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