Problem at work
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OP, I've had a brew now so feeling a bit more helpful....
Firstly, you ARE out of kilter. Your behaviour has been completely unacceptable. You need to address that now before your meeting with HR.
Secondly, start reading up about what most companies, but specifically yours, are looking for in respect to dress code.
Thirdly, write down a detailed list of exactly what you have said etc, don't leave anything out..you need to be honest with HR, explain that you thought it was ok and are willing to take training to sort yourself out.
Hope others can come along with tips as well
Firstly, you ARE out of kilter. Your behaviour has been completely unacceptable. You need to address that now before your meeting with HR.
Secondly, start reading up about what most companies, but specifically yours, are looking for in respect to dress code.
Thirdly, write down a detailed list of exactly what you have said etc, don't leave anything out..you need to be honest with HR, explain that you thought it was ok and are willing to take training to sort yourself out.
Hope others can come along with tips as well
CAH706 said:
So today I get the news that I have broken a HR rule and will be facing a disciplinary and possibly the sack!
As background, I work for a large company (for 20 years) and manage a small (sub 30) team of roughly 70/30 women to men. Of late we've hired a couple of attractive women (stunners) and I have therefore enforced the dress code more rigorously which is business casual.
Given the attractiveness I asked the ladies to wear skirts etc to brighten up the office which most were happy to go along with. For some reason colleague A ( let's say you will not be surprised to know she is a pig dog) refused and pointed out this wasn't the dress code. To be fair it isn't but is my version of.
Anyway things settle down but standards slipped so I've pushed the code more of late. Shortish skirts and no flat shoes.
All are ok with this new push on standards with the exception of pig dog who has reported me to HR and the Union!
Long story short HR had me in for a chat and have said I've broken various regulations. I couldn't deny it as I have 20 women who will say I've put the policy in place. 95% of them were happy with the policy and I've had comments from other departments on how smart we are looking. In hind site mainly from men.
So, given I can't deny what I've done, any tips on how to handle this. Surely this can't be a stackable offence? It's PC ,madness!
Your only strategy here is total contrition and demonstrating a pro active willingness to take corrective training etc. Any organisation not dealing with sexism in the workplace leaves itself wide open to claims etc. Not able to give you anything positive here, behaviour is straight out of the 1980's (when it wasn't appropriate either).As background, I work for a large company (for 20 years) and manage a small (sub 30) team of roughly 70/30 women to men. Of late we've hired a couple of attractive women (stunners) and I have therefore enforced the dress code more rigorously which is business casual.
Given the attractiveness I asked the ladies to wear skirts etc to brighten up the office which most were happy to go along with. For some reason colleague A ( let's say you will not be surprised to know she is a pig dog) refused and pointed out this wasn't the dress code. To be fair it isn't but is my version of.
Anyway things settle down but standards slipped so I've pushed the code more of late. Shortish skirts and no flat shoes.
All are ok with this new push on standards with the exception of pig dog who has reported me to HR and the Union!
Long story short HR had me in for a chat and have said I've broken various regulations. I couldn't deny it as I have 20 women who will say I've put the policy in place. 95% of them were happy with the policy and I've had comments from other departments on how smart we are looking. In hind site mainly from men.
So, given I can't deny what I've done, any tips on how to handle this. Surely this can't be a stackable offence? It's PC ,madness!
Edited by truck71 on Wednesday 10th September 19:43
ikarl said:
If you worked for me, I would sack you.
Your attitude 'larger pig dog' 'stunners' etc absolutely stinks. You might think its PC gone wrong but most of these rules are here for a reason. You seem to be completely unable to accept that.
Its a shame this is a complete windup on the off chance you are serious I can only agree with the above. Your attitude 'larger pig dog' 'stunners' etc absolutely stinks. You might think its PC gone wrong but most of these rules are here for a reason. You seem to be completely unable to accept that.
You're screwed.
Whilst strongly suspecting your just trying to cheer us all up and give everyone a mid week lift.
Lets assume your being serious for a second and its actually true. I'm not a lawyer nor an employment specialist in any way shape or form. My opinions are purely based on a gut feeling. In my opinion you are more fked than an extraordinarily well fked feller hailing from the hills of truly fkdville in a season rich in being full of fks. The level of fked up you face is of a magnitude not seen, since Rolf Harris asked "can you see what it is yet" off screen. Good luck in your next job ( remember always ask if they want to go large on the order). You sir are another PH Legend
Lets assume your being serious for a second and its actually true. I'm not a lawyer nor an employment specialist in any way shape or form. My opinions are purely based on a gut feeling. In my opinion you are more fked than an extraordinarily well fked feller hailing from the hills of truly fkdville in a season rich in being full of fks. The level of fked up you face is of a magnitude not seen, since Rolf Harris asked "can you see what it is yet" off screen. Good luck in your next job ( remember always ask if they want to go large on the order). You sir are another PH Legend
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