How often do people leave where you work?
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Tricky to say exactly what our turnover may be however this week we've had two staff members being awarded for 25 years service and I've been here 20 years.
Thing is the place is so far removed from where I started all that time ago. Back then it was a fairly small company of around 50 - 60 people but part of a larger group of companies but not massive by any means. After a number of years they decided to spin another company out of the one I was working for to separate the commercial stuff from the other work we did. I was in the new company. Some years after that we were sold to a much bigger American company, and then some years after that we were again acquired by a huge multinational.
Now I still work in an office with around 30 people. It seems like the folk who have been here from the early days tend to stick around but we don't seem to be able to make any recruitment gains. Most people we recruit either stay for 3-5 years before moving on or are complete lemons and basically given the message that they don't really have a future here so move on of their own accord.
I really think I should move on. The work we do has changed so dramatically over the last few years and isn't the kind of stuff I really want to do for the next 20 years. Problem is at this point in time I don't want to change location, I've got two young kids and a mortgage to look after, the money is very good, and the hours aren't too excessive. Comfortable rut I guess.
Thing is the place is so far removed from where I started all that time ago. Back then it was a fairly small company of around 50 - 60 people but part of a larger group of companies but not massive by any means. After a number of years they decided to spin another company out of the one I was working for to separate the commercial stuff from the other work we did. I was in the new company. Some years after that we were sold to a much bigger American company, and then some years after that we were again acquired by a huge multinational.
Now I still work in an office with around 30 people. It seems like the folk who have been here from the early days tend to stick around but we don't seem to be able to make any recruitment gains. Most people we recruit either stay for 3-5 years before moving on or are complete lemons and basically given the message that they don't really have a future here so move on of their own accord.
I really think I should move on. The work we do has changed so dramatically over the last few years and isn't the kind of stuff I really want to do for the next 20 years. Problem is at this point in time I don't want to change location, I've got two young kids and a mortgage to look after, the money is very good, and the hours aren't too excessive. Comfortable rut I guess.
Pretty high percentage where I work. There's a few people that have been there a while who are obviously trying to work their way up the ladder but on the whole a lot of people leave relatively quickly. There are a few manager who screw everyone over, the pay is poor and so are the hours. So when we get new people in they don't last long after their training period. I'll be out as soon as Christmas is done, as next year I'll be becoming self employed. 
A company that I worked for a few years ago has gone down from 6 or 7 people to 2 now. The company owner is simply not replacing people as the salary savings are being spent on maintaining his lifestyle.
Quite how much longer it'll survive is a mystery, and it's doomed without investment.
Quite how much longer it'll survive is a mystery, and it's doomed without investment.
I have worked at a few companies in my time, for reasons of redundancy, company closure and wanting a better/more stable salary. I think the reasons why people don’t leave are:-
The wages are better than those around. One of the best places I worked, the salary wasn’t great, but the off-site working allowance was truly excellent. turnover was unheard of.
Their skills aren’t required elsewhere.
They have major commitments to the area – partner, children, and elderly parents
The work is very interesting/personally rewarding
The management are good and look after their people
I worked at a formula 1 company (approx 550) where the staff turnover was 43%. The HR team itself averaged 55% in the last 10 years. HR spent nearly their whole lives interviewing.
For most organisations, IMHO, the main reason why people leave is the management. As can be seen from the small statistical study conducted in the replies above, this doesn’t appear to create too much concern for those in charge.
The wages are better than those around. One of the best places I worked, the salary wasn’t great, but the off-site working allowance was truly excellent. turnover was unheard of.
Their skills aren’t required elsewhere.
They have major commitments to the area – partner, children, and elderly parents
The work is very interesting/personally rewarding
The management are good and look after their people
I worked at a formula 1 company (approx 550) where the staff turnover was 43%. The HR team itself averaged 55% in the last 10 years. HR spent nearly their whole lives interviewing.
For most organisations, IMHO, the main reason why people leave is the management. As can be seen from the small statistical study conducted in the replies above, this doesn’t appear to create too much concern for those in charge.
My firm had an "aren't you all wonderful" dinner for people who had served over ten years last night.
Some interesting stats. In a firm of approx 200 people, >50 have served more than 10 years, between them serving 1,000 years. Not bad for a predominantly retail and catering organisation.
Some interesting stats. In a firm of approx 200 people, >50 have served more than 10 years, between them serving 1,000 years. Not bad for a predominantly retail and catering organisation.
The company that I work for has a very low turnover, I'm in sales and have been there 8 years, my colleague 6 and my manager about 12 and it's pretty much a similar story at the other branches, the industry that I'm in; motor trade, generally have a very high turnover rate for sales staff.
I think the reason is, even though there are better packages out there we aren't pressured to perform like a lot of other car dealers do, I know of sales teams elsewhere that are under so much pressure and it is so ruthless that don't know if they'll still be working there in three months time as the targets and pressure are so high and if you don't perform, you are out, and there is someone constantly on your back, pressuring you to work your day off or longer hours.
The other departments have a low turnover rate too.
Customers like the fact that they come on and see the same faces that have been there for years.
I think the reason is, even though there are better packages out there we aren't pressured to perform like a lot of other car dealers do, I know of sales teams elsewhere that are under so much pressure and it is so ruthless that don't know if they'll still be working there in three months time as the targets and pressure are so high and if you don't perform, you are out, and there is someone constantly on your back, pressuring you to work your day off or longer hours.
The other departments have a low turnover rate too.
Customers like the fact that they come on and see the same faces that have been there for years.
LOTS. I myself am considering it very seriously at the moment.
The job I have is pretty high pressured but in terms of this branch, the BM is just astonishingly awful (in typical BM fashion he believes his own hype, takes credit for all the work everyone does, does none of his own, confrontational etc etc). In the last year 4 people have quit and they had been here ranging between a few years to three months. As well as the awful BM the company higher up isn't the best so people just leave.
I know other branches have had a very high turn over of staff too ranging from my job to the accounts teams and other departments
The job I have is pretty high pressured but in terms of this branch, the BM is just astonishingly awful (in typical BM fashion he believes his own hype, takes credit for all the work everyone does, does none of his own, confrontational etc etc). In the last year 4 people have quit and they had been here ranging between a few years to three months. As well as the awful BM the company higher up isn't the best so people just leave.
I know other branches have had a very high turn over of staff too ranging from my job to the accounts teams and other departments
I worked in food manufacturing for 22 months as a financial controller.
The management team was about 20, in that time I was there 16 of the roles changed people, some of them more than once. I was one of only 2 that actually left of their own accord!.
In the 2 years in the new job only 1 person has left (retired) similar sized team but in steel fabrication
The management team was about 20, in that time I was there 16 of the roles changed people, some of them more than once. I was one of only 2 that actually left of their own accord!.
In the 2 years in the new job only 1 person has left (retired) similar sized team but in steel fabrication
We went through a restructure last year which skews the figures somewhat.
Our department (IT) turnover is surprisingly low. One retirement in the last year. Couple of guys have been promoted and moved locations, but still within IT. I'm the shortest serving member there, and I'm almost 3.5 years in. We have two guys who between them have over 80 years service in the department. One guy has 51 years with the same company, been with us since school.
Outside of us, it seems to be higher. Our customer services department seems to have a 30-40% turnover with some staff staying as little as 6 months. I think part of their problem is hiring graduates and expecting them to stay long term. Not going to happen.
Our department (IT) turnover is surprisingly low. One retirement in the last year. Couple of guys have been promoted and moved locations, but still within IT. I'm the shortest serving member there, and I'm almost 3.5 years in. We have two guys who between them have over 80 years service in the department. One guy has 51 years with the same company, been with us since school.
Outside of us, it seems to be higher. Our customer services department seems to have a 30-40% turnover with some staff staying as little as 6 months. I think part of their problem is hiring graduates and expecting them to stay long term. Not going to happen.
I work in the 'engineering' arm of a big retail company. The pay parity between the 3 levels of staff is ridiculous considering the workload is shared fairly evenly.
The top payband rarely leave as they have it easy and earn twice the salary of the other two bands, my payband are probably the most frequent leavers as competitive companies offer nearly twice the salary for this level.
The bottom pay level is only a few £k per year off the middle band even though most employees have no experience in engineering.
The company moans about the high turnover but cannot see the reason for it even though they've been told time and time again.
The top payband rarely leave as they have it easy and earn twice the salary of the other two bands, my payband are probably the most frequent leavers as competitive companies offer nearly twice the salary for this level.
The bottom pay level is only a few £k per year off the middle band even though most employees have no experience in engineering.
The company moans about the high turnover but cannot see the reason for it even though they've been told time and time again.
We've had 27 people leave in just over 6 years, and the job is considered a 'dead mans shoes' type job. And there is approx 30 people in total. Only 4/5 have left due to retirement the rest for various other reasons.
Seems high to me,I'd of though our HR department would be looking into it
Seems high to me,I'd of though our HR department would be looking into it
Interesting one, where I work the staff turnover is very low to the point I am struggling to remember when the last person left on their own accord to go to another job, we had a retirement probably 2 years ago, he was 49 but other than that people are kicked out but that is fairly rare unless money is tight.
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