Sick Pay

[gcollins]

Just after a little insight. Been with my company now for 6 months and had my first day off sick last week. My payslip says I have not been paid for my day absent.

I have looked at my contract and on in the paragraph regarding sick pay it reads....The company complies with the government statuary sick pay and does not have contractual pay scheme.

I'm a little lost on the contractual pay scheme part.

[ClassicMercs]

You don't get SSP until after three ''waiting'' days have elapsed - then you would get £17.51 per day thereafter, once you have complied with ''Fit For Work'' paperwork once the self certification period has ended after the first week.
And that assumes you qualify regarding your normal earnings which you probably will.

Best not make illness a regular thing - you'll be broke.

[gcollins]

As mentioned -I'm a little lost on the contractual pay scheme part.

[SkinnyP]

I'm going to sound naive, but I thought you did not lose earnings if you're ill? Especially if its short term.

[ClassicMercs]

Just as you stated - the Company has no Contractual Sick Pay (eg Full pay for six months and Half Pay for another six months).

All you will get is Statutory Sick Pay - the legal minimum sick pay - which your employer is still paying for anyway - just like Minimum Wage - but for Sick Pay.

Google SSP.

[Sir Bagalot]

The secret is to go in regardless of how you feel and get sent home by HR.

A friend of mine worked for a similar company. He really couldn't afford to not be paid so made it in.

First time he was coughing and sneezing all the time, he was asked why he was in and he replied with full honesty. He told them that he wanted his family to eat, and if he stayed at home he wouldn't get paid and he wouldn't have the money to eat. HR sent him home 20 mins later on full pay.

Another time he was being sick sick. He was later told the smell was awful. Again he managed it so he was asked to go home by HR and was paid in full.

There wasn't a third time as by that time he managed to go and find a job at a firm that treated its staff properly.

Edited by Sir Bagalot on Friday 24th October 00:47

[Sy1441]

Sir Bagalot said:

The secret is to go in regardless of how you feel and get sent home by HR.

A friend of mine worked for a similar company. He really couldn't afford to not be paid so made it in.

First time he was coughing and sneezing all the time, he was asked why he was in and he replied with full honesty. He told them that he wanted his family to eat, and if he stayed at home he wouldn't get paid and he wouldn't have the money to eat. HR sent him home 20 mins later on full pay.

Another time he was being sick sick. He was later told the smell was awful. Again he managed it so he was asked to go home by HR and was paid in full.

There wasn't a third time as by that time he managed to go and find a job at a firm that treated its staff properly.

Edited by Sir Bagalot on Friday 24th October 00:47

You can send someone home for not being fit for work and not pay them.

[edc]

gcollins said:

Just after a little insight. Been with my company now for 6 months and had my first day off sick last week. My payslip says I have not been paid for my day absent.

I have looked at my contract and on in the paragraph regarding sick pay it reads....The company complies with the government statuary sick pay and does not have contractual pay scheme.

I'm a little lost on the contractual pay scheme part.

Based on this the only thing of relevance to you is statutory sick pay. You will need to comply with whatever process or procedures your company stipulate https://www.gov.uk/statutory-sick-pay/overview

[mclwanB]

Sy1441 said:

Sir Bagalot said:

The secret is to go in regardless of how you feel and get sent home by HR.

A friend of mine worked for a similar company. He really couldn't afford to not be paid so made it in.

First time he was coughing and sneezing all the time, he was asked why he was in and he replied with full honesty. He told them that he wanted his family to eat, and if he stayed at home he wouldn't get paid and he wouldn't have the money to eat. HR sent him home 20 mins later on full pay.

Another time he was being sick sick. He was later told the smell was awful. Again he managed it so he was asked to go home by HR and was paid in full.

There wasn't a third time as by that time he managed to go and find a job at a firm that treated its staff properly.

Edited by Sir Bagalot on Friday 24th October 00:47

You can send someone home for not being fit for work and not pay them.

And you can decide when you want them to return to work and not pay them until they're fully fit. More of an issue with a manual job, currently in that situation myself due to an injury at work (fractured ulna.. but nobodies fault specifically)..

[JumboBeef]

gcollins said:

Just after a little insight. Been with my company now for 6 months and had my first day off sick last week. My payslip says I have not been paid for my day absent.

I have looked at my contract and on in the paragraph regarding sick pay it reads....The company complies with the government statuary sick pay and does not have contractual pay scheme.

I'm a little lost on the contractual pay scheme part.

Come and work for the NHS: I get six months full pay (including unsocial payments so I don't lose a penny) followed by six months half pay, in any 12 months.

And no, I very rarely take time off sick, but it is nice to know it is there.

[mph1977]

JumboBeef said:

Come and work for the NHS: I get six months full pay (including unsocial payments so I don't lose a penny) followed by six months half pay, in any 12 months.

And no, I very rarely take time off sick, but it is nice to know it is there.

After 5 years service.

Also it's not as generous as portayed it's a rolling 12 month window and many trusts will look to dismiss at the 12 month point.

And to dispell one of the myths - the rolling 12 months mean you need to be back fully fit for those 12 months to fully reset it.

[JumboBeef]

All true, but still a very good deal.

And you can get a full month's sick pay on your first day in the job.....

[98elise]

gcollins said:

As mentioned -I'm a little lost on the contractual pay scheme part.

Some companies will pay your your normal pay when sick. It effctively tops up your SSP. It would be a part of your employment contract, so its contractual rather than statutory.