Working Abroad - Unmarried Couple

Working Abroad - Unmarried Couple

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Progressive

Original Poster:

1,288 posts

189 months

Wednesday 18th February 2015
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Hello,

I have searched the net for info and posted on individual forums without much luck so will try a change of approach, hopefully somebody here can help!

Unmarried couple of ten years, just spent the last three living and working in Australia. Now looking for a new challenge. Many of the countries which appeal to us require visas, often which do not recognise unmarried relationships. Middle East, Hong Kong, Singapore(?), USA for example. We feel as though heading back to Europe is our only realistic option (both EU citizens). This is fine, but we do have a yearning to live 'away' for a bit longer yet.

Has anybody got any advice or practical experience of potential countries which might work for us? Places which recognise unmarried relationships or would grant a visa (living only or working) without 'employer sponsorship'?

We are very flexible and open-minded. I work in Oil and Gas (and related industries) and don't seem to have a problem finding work globally at the moment, despite the low oil price issues. Her work is very transferable also. It's just the unmarried bit which is the issue.


Thanks!

PS. "Get married" is the obvious advice, I know. This will happen in the coming years, not just yet though!

Ej74

1,038 posts

185 months

Wednesday 18th February 2015
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We had the same issue in Singapore

You can apply and have the local court rubber stamp as a common law couple

However this doesn't entitle your spouse to work in SG

Common law arrangements may work in some EU countries

Switzerland have some relaxed visa rules - 6 months to live and find work and then leave if you have not done so

Edited by Ej74 on Wednesday 18th February 14:01

StevieBee

12,888 posts

255 months

Wednesday 18th February 2015
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Just finished a four year project in Baku, Azerbaijan. Met plenty of people living together without any apparent issues. As I'm sure you'll know - big oil producing nation - BP I think is the biggest employer in the country. Interesting place too!

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Wednesday 18th February 2015
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England and Wales doesn't recognise unmarried couples in lots of its laws.

Progressive

Original Poster:

1,288 posts

189 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Perhaps naive, but I thought as two British citizens, we could effectively turn up to any EU country and start applying for work? Is that incorrect?

I am aware of how ignorant the above statement reads. No excuse for that attitude, just looking for assistance! Thanks.

Stylus

154 posts

173 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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As you are both looking to work why don't you apply for your own jobs, and receive a visa from the respective employer?

This what my fiancé and I did when we moved to the ME.

We're now married but being on separate visa's also gives a fallback that if one of you lose your job, you can (once married) hop onto the others and remain in the country to look for another position.

We were lucky to both find work at the same time very easily but this was before the oil price drop.

One thing to note if you do decide on the ME is even if you have separate visa's you still can't legally live together until wed.


Asterix

24,438 posts

228 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Dubai here - technically living together while not married is haram, but providing you don't do anything to piss someone off who is influential, no one will ever check up on you. Each of you will have to have jobs as that will get you work permits and visas each.

If you're unmarried, you couldn't sponsor your partner on your visa. Must be married if you're going to have kids. If she was to get pregnant out of wedlock, she will, and you probably will, get deported.

GT03ROB

13,262 posts

221 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Asterix said:
Dubai here - technically living together while not married is haram, but providing you don't do anything to piss someone off who is influential, no one will ever check up on you. Each of you will have to have jobs as that will get you work permits and visas each.

If you're unmarried, you couldn't sponsor your partner on your visa. Must be married if you're going to have kids. If she was to get pregnant out of wedlock, she will, and you probably will, get deported.
Same here in Kuwait.

HenryJM

6,315 posts

129 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Obviously if you are unmarried you have to each qualify for something in your own right, if you are married one can have permission to be there on the visa of the other. But depending on where you are that may not include the ability to work.

If you are both British then you have the same rights, so if you pick a country you are allowed to go and live in then you both can, EU being the obvious.

Matt Harper

6,618 posts

201 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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HenryJM said:
Obviously if you are unmarried you have to each qualify for something in your own right, if you are married one can have permission to be there on the visa of the other. But depending on where you are that may not include the ability to work.

If you are both British then you have the same rights, so if you pick a country you are allowed to go and live in then you both can, EU being the obvious.
A US B1 co-habiting partner visa may be applicable - though it does carry some quite punitive restrictions.

Progressive

Original Poster:

1,288 posts

189 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Thanks all. Some very helpful advice given.