Employer wants me to work on an oil rig for 3 weeks
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Martin4x4 said:
Instead of demanding a specific sum I would wait for them to ask (or tell you). Then ask them what they propose given the significant/massive change in existing expectations/working practices.
Then set out all the things on this thread, the seven day week, the 12 hour shifts, the danger and everything else. As an aside, when you travel to a non-permanent place of work (i.e. your travel abroad) your should be getting credit for all the time you spend away. That is the law.
Rig workers get down time equal down time, so for three weeks on they get three weeks off less their travel time. They get paid their generous basic during their off time but also get a generous bonuses and uplifts for their time offshore.
Also get some large USB memory sticks fill them with all the latest films, porn and music you can muster. This is currency on board because there is literally nothing else to do other than work, sleep and eat. There is no smoking or drinking on the rig.
Ad-hoc workers like the OP dont get that sort of down time it's only people with set rotations. Also there are smoking rooms.Then set out all the things on this thread, the seven day week, the 12 hour shifts, the danger and everything else. As an aside, when you travel to a non-permanent place of work (i.e. your travel abroad) your should be getting credit for all the time you spend away. That is the law.
Rig workers get down time equal down time, so for three weeks on they get three weeks off less their travel time. They get paid their generous basic during their off time but also get a generous bonuses and uplifts for their time offshore.
Also get some large USB memory sticks fill them with all the latest films, porn and music you can muster. This is currency on board because there is literally nothing else to do other than work, sleep and eat. There is no smoking or drinking on the rig.
If it's any help.......
I run a team of engineers who are nornally office based. They are salaried for 40 hours a week. If they work on agreed billable projects any more than that, they get paid overtime.
If they work offshore, which is "occasional", they get paid overtime for hours in excess of 8 per day Mon-Fri (almost always they work 12 a day offshore) plus an offshore day rate which is agreed with the client. Usually between £40 and £120 dep on many factors.
The day rate is for inconvenience / lack if social choices, being away from family and friends, etc. It's never termed "danger money" because statistically offshore platforms, rigs and vessels are actually quite safe. Safer than most onshore construction sites.
So go ahead and ask for something similar. In 3 weeks in the office you'll do 120 hours. In 3 weeks offshore you will do 252 hours.
I run a team of engineers who are nornally office based. They are salaried for 40 hours a week. If they work on agreed billable projects any more than that, they get paid overtime.
If they work offshore, which is "occasional", they get paid overtime for hours in excess of 8 per day Mon-Fri (almost always they work 12 a day offshore) plus an offshore day rate which is agreed with the client. Usually between £40 and £120 dep on many factors.
The day rate is for inconvenience / lack if social choices, being away from family and friends, etc. It's never termed "danger money" because statistically offshore platforms, rigs and vessels are actually quite safe. Safer than most onshore construction sites.
So go ahead and ask for something similar. In 3 weeks in the office you'll do 120 hours. In 3 weeks offshore you will do 252 hours.
As others have done, I’ll give you a bit of a baseline. I normally work 37 hours a week in an office but had to visit a rig last year.
I got every hour I worked paid at 1.5 my usual hourly rate, overtime on top of 12 hours was 1.5x1.5 my hourly rate, I also got £75 offshore allowance for every day I was there and a £10 allowance for “expenses”, not that there is anything to spend that on. Plus, the guy that I went with got a certain amount of shore leave when he returned, I didn’t manage to negotiate that with my boss but I was very pleased with my rate!
As others have said, I wasn’t that worried about the chopper ride, the worst bit was the long shifts and once you’ve had your evening meal your just sat around waiting till it’s time to go to sleep, its extremely boring!
Great to have on your CV but not paying you anything extra is crazy!
I got every hour I worked paid at 1.5 my usual hourly rate, overtime on top of 12 hours was 1.5x1.5 my hourly rate, I also got £75 offshore allowance for every day I was there and a £10 allowance for “expenses”, not that there is anything to spend that on. Plus, the guy that I went with got a certain amount of shore leave when he returned, I didn’t manage to negotiate that with my boss but I was very pleased with my rate!
As others have said, I wasn’t that worried about the chopper ride, the worst bit was the long shifts and once you’ve had your evening meal your just sat around waiting till it’s time to go to sleep, its extremely boring!
Great to have on your CV but not paying you anything extra is crazy!
Hi all thanks for the replies.
Well they agreed to pay me for the additional hours, however the £100 a night I requested was denied and I was offered £20 instead.
They said prove to them the going rate is £100 and they will.
Any advice apart from finding a new job? Obviously I can't show them this thread...
At the end of the day I will do it for the experience but as I am the only employee willing to go I want to push them for a bit more.
Well they agreed to pay me for the additional hours, however the £100 a night I requested was denied and I was offered £20 instead.
They said prove to them the going rate is £100 and they will.
Any advice apart from finding a new job? Obviously I can't show them this thread...
At the end of the day I will do it for the experience but as I am the only employee willing to go I want to push them for a bit more.
Beknown said:
Hi all thanks for the replies.
Well they agreed to pay me for the additional hours, however the £100 a night I requested was denied and I was offered £20 instead.
They said prove to them the going rate is £100 and they will.
Any advice apart from finding a new job? Obviously I can't show them this thread...
At the end of the day I will do it for the experience but as I am the only employee willing to go I want to push them for a bit more.
Find a recruitment agent in Aberdeen and ask them to email you with standard terms for contract workers on rigs or some salary bands or allowances as 'proof' Well they agreed to pay me for the additional hours, however the £100 a night I requested was denied and I was offered £20 instead.
They said prove to them the going rate is £100 and they will.
Any advice apart from finding a new job? Obviously I can't show them this thread...
At the end of the day I will do it for the experience but as I am the only employee willing to go I want to push them for a bit more.
or ask for £50 a night, and a promise that they will respect you in the morning...
Shuvi McTupya said:
OP, let us know how it goes, I am also curious to hear what you think of the survival training..
Hi, why the interest in the survival training? It all looks rather controlled and exciting.Oh, my employer asked others and everyone said no One person said their hernia can't withstand the survival training but the way it was said was pure bullst
Beknown said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
OP, let us know how it goes, I am also curious to hear what you think of the survival training..
Hi, why the interest in the survival training? It all looks rather controlled and exciting.Oh, my employer asked others and everyone said no One person said their hernia can't withstand the survival training but the way it was said was pure bullst
Beknown said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
OP, let us know how it goes, I am also curious to hear what you think of the survival training..
Hi, why the interest in the survival training? It all looks rather controlled and exciting.Oh, my employer asked others and everyone said no One person said their hernia can't withstand the survival training but the way it was said was pure bullst
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