Regional IT Manager... oh my..

Regional IT Manager... oh my..

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gowmonster

2,471 posts

168 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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I think the key word here is "manager"

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

249 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Was it Jen from the IT Crowd? Careful that box is the internet.

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

160 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Many CIO's actually come from a finance background.

You don't need to understand how everything works technically.

What you need to do is surround yourself with people that do.
Or 3rd parties that manage it for you.



simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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anonymous said:
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Mourinho/Andre Vilas Boas...

petemurphy

10,132 posts

184 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Well done u u know it all. dont think u'll ever be a manager

jpringle819

719 posts

240 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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It isn't just IT Managers that know nothing, I have the misfortune of working with IT Contractors for 6 months of the year and it makes me weep. I do wonder why I am not the one doing the contracting sometimes then I remember the paid travel time, overtime and holidays, the free training and job security and feel a bit better.

Bullett

10,892 posts

185 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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I have people to do the fiddling with the bits and bytes.

omniflow

2,596 posts

152 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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I've worked in IT for 30 years, and I don't know how Port Forwarding works.

I assume it's a Network thing, and that's just plumbing - I expect it to be there, and I expect it to work.

The only person I would expect to know how Port Forwarding works is a Network Engineer - not a Manager of any description. I don't see what the problem is.

Pit Pony

8,674 posts

122 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Having managed a bunch of guys who all made a career out of pretending the job was hard, and took twice as long as it really does, I'd say, knowing how to do their job, was a prerequisite to getting the job done both properly and on time.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Pit Pony said:
Having managed a bunch of guys who all made a career out of pretending the job was hard, and took twice as long as it really does, I'd say, knowing how to do their job, was a prerequisite to getting the job done both properly and on time.
confusing supervisor (bronze) with manager (silver)

Cupramax

10,484 posts

253 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Congratulations, youve just explained exactly why you're not an IT Manager laugh

I speak from experience of having run the IT department of a £500m turnover business for 15 years, knowing how to do port forwarding has not been high on my list of things i need to know how to do...

petemurphy

10,132 posts

184 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Cupramax said:
Congratulations, youve just explained exactly why you're not an IT Manager laugh

I speak from experience of having run the IT department of a £500m turnover business for 15 years, knowing how to do port forwarding has not been high on my list of things i need to know how to do...
This!

andy873

2,196 posts

205 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Did you mean "infrastructure manager"

bitchstewie

51,506 posts

211 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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You may be being a little harsh.

"Manager" in the truest sense means just that, it doesn't necessarily mean "shopfloor" knowledge any more than the CEO of a bank would know how to open the safe in one of the branches.

Also IT is very diverse (I work in it) and our developers wouldn't have the first clue about half of the terminology I throw about for my job and vice versa even though we all work in the same field.

gaz1234

5,233 posts

220 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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I see his point.

bitchstewie

51,506 posts

211 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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IT does also have a strange habit of job titles meaning jack st.

I've worked with guys who went from being "Help Desk Technician" to "IT Manager" simply by moving to a company where they're the only IT guy.

They didn't have the authority to order a packet of paper clips but there you go.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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bhstewie said:
You may be being a little harsh.

"Manager" in the truest sense means just that, it doesn't necessarily mean "shopfloor" knowledge any more than the CEO of a bank would know how to open the safe in one of the branches.

Also IT is very diverse (I work in it) and our developers wouldn't have the first clue about half of the terminology I throw about for my job and vice versa even though we all work in the same field.
i think stewie makes a very valid point , the main problem where managers have limited or no technical skill in the area they manage is when they decide / are told / are allowed to take over the technical aspects - as is seen all too often in the NHS where the older generation of Nurses are socialised into be passively doing as they are told by their 'superiors' ...

dave_s13

13,815 posts

270 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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I've a family member that is an "IT Project Manager" or something, for a large very well known northern supermarket.

I assumed he would know something about computers. He doesn't.

He doesn't even own a smart phone, uses an old nokia. He has no idea about how to set up a simple network at home or how to set up spotify or netflix. He knows literally fk all about the workings of a computer. I'm a podiatrist and know a million times more about IT technical stuff than he does.

On the other hand my bro is an IT Security manager for a bank, he does know lots of st about some very technical stuff.

To summarise. Having the abbreviation "IT" in your job title doesn't mean you know how to use a computer.

petemurphy

10,132 posts

184 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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swerni said:
To understand and implement strategy doest require you to know how bits and bytes work, that's the responsibly of someone far lower down the food chain. You emply the kind of peope who get excited about port forwarding for that smile
your job is to keep them away from other non It people in the organisation wink

Snozzwangler

12,230 posts

195 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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petemurphy said:
swerni said:
To understand and implement strategy doest require you to know how bits and bytes work, that's the responsibly of someone far lower down the food chain. You emply the kind of peope who get excited about port forwarding for that smile
your job is to keep them away from other non It people in the organisation wink
I like to call it 'Chief Geek Herder' :P