Regional IT Manager... oh my..
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It isn't just IT Managers that know nothing, I have the misfortune of working with IT Contractors for 6 months of the year and it makes me weep. I do wonder why I am not the one doing the contracting sometimes then I remember the paid travel time, overtime and holidays, the free training and job security and feel a bit better.
I've worked in IT for 30 years, and I don't know how Port Forwarding works.
I assume it's a Network thing, and that's just plumbing - I expect it to be there, and I expect it to work.
The only person I would expect to know how Port Forwarding works is a Network Engineer - not a Manager of any description. I don't see what the problem is.
I assume it's a Network thing, and that's just plumbing - I expect it to be there, and I expect it to work.
The only person I would expect to know how Port Forwarding works is a Network Engineer - not a Manager of any description. I don't see what the problem is.
Pit Pony said:
Having managed a bunch of guys who all made a career out of pretending the job was hard, and took twice as long as it really does, I'd say, knowing how to do their job, was a prerequisite to getting the job done both properly and on time.
confusing supervisor (bronze) with manager (silver)Cupramax said:
Congratulations, youve just explained exactly why you're not an IT Manager
I speak from experience of having run the IT department of a £500m turnover business for 15 years, knowing how to do port forwarding has not been high on my list of things i need to know how to do...
This!I speak from experience of having run the IT department of a £500m turnover business for 15 years, knowing how to do port forwarding has not been high on my list of things i need to know how to do...
You may be being a little harsh.
"Manager" in the truest sense means just that, it doesn't necessarily mean "shopfloor" knowledge any more than the CEO of a bank would know how to open the safe in one of the branches.
Also IT is very diverse (I work in it) and our developers wouldn't have the first clue about half of the terminology I throw about for my job and vice versa even though we all work in the same field.
"Manager" in the truest sense means just that, it doesn't necessarily mean "shopfloor" knowledge any more than the CEO of a bank would know how to open the safe in one of the branches.
Also IT is very diverse (I work in it) and our developers wouldn't have the first clue about half of the terminology I throw about for my job and vice versa even though we all work in the same field.
IT does also have a strange habit of job titles meaning jack st.
I've worked with guys who went from being "Help Desk Technician" to "IT Manager" simply by moving to a company where they're the only IT guy.
They didn't have the authority to order a packet of paper clips but there you go.
I've worked with guys who went from being "Help Desk Technician" to "IT Manager" simply by moving to a company where they're the only IT guy.
They didn't have the authority to order a packet of paper clips but there you go.
bhstewie said:
You may be being a little harsh.
"Manager" in the truest sense means just that, it doesn't necessarily mean "shopfloor" knowledge any more than the CEO of a bank would know how to open the safe in one of the branches.
Also IT is very diverse (I work in it) and our developers wouldn't have the first clue about half of the terminology I throw about for my job and vice versa even though we all work in the same field.
i think stewie makes a very valid point , the main problem where managers have limited or no technical skill in the area they manage is when they decide / are told / are allowed to take over the technical aspects - as is seen all too often in the NHS where the older generation of Nurses are socialised into be passively doing as they are told by their 'superiors' ..."Manager" in the truest sense means just that, it doesn't necessarily mean "shopfloor" knowledge any more than the CEO of a bank would know how to open the safe in one of the branches.
Also IT is very diverse (I work in it) and our developers wouldn't have the first clue about half of the terminology I throw about for my job and vice versa even though we all work in the same field.
I've a family member that is an "IT Project Manager" or something, for a large very well known northern supermarket.
I assumed he would know something about computers. He doesn't.
He doesn't even own a smart phone, uses an old nokia. He has no idea about how to set up a simple network at home or how to set up spotify or netflix. He knows literally fk all about the workings of a computer. I'm a podiatrist and know a million times more about IT technical stuff than he does.
On the other hand my bro is an IT Security manager for a bank, he does know lots of st about some very technical stuff.
To summarise. Having the abbreviation "IT" in your job title doesn't mean you know how to use a computer.
I assumed he would know something about computers. He doesn't.
He doesn't even own a smart phone, uses an old nokia. He has no idea about how to set up a simple network at home or how to set up spotify or netflix. He knows literally fk all about the workings of a computer. I'm a podiatrist and know a million times more about IT technical stuff than he does.
On the other hand my bro is an IT Security manager for a bank, he does know lots of st about some very technical stuff.
To summarise. Having the abbreviation "IT" in your job title doesn't mean you know how to use a computer.
swerni said:
To understand and implement strategy doest require you to know how bits and bytes work, that's the responsibly of someone far lower down the food chain. You emply the kind of peope who get excited about port forwarding for that
your job is to keep them away from other non It people in the organisation petemurphy said:
swerni said:
To understand and implement strategy doest require you to know how bits and bytes work, that's the responsibly of someone far lower down the food chain. You emply the kind of peope who get excited about port forwarding for that
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