Lying On a CV - Peoples/Employers thoughts/experiences
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Years ago, a lad in the office downstairs reckoned he had been at the same uni doing the same course in the same year as I had. A manager, who had also been there 2 years previous, said “bucksmanuk was there then – he doesn’t remember you”. The lad left 2 weeks later. The manager knew I had been there as I knew the name of the engineering department’s stunning secretary.
I know of a contractor who asked a work mate to bring in his degree certificate then he could copy it and make his own. Said mate told him where he could stick it.
A family friend’s best mate got awarded an A in Woodwork Technology at A level. Amazing when he hadn’t even been on the course. Result = good career in the Forestry Commission on the back of it.
Fiddling degree grades is rather common I think.
I know of a contractor who asked a work mate to bring in his degree certificate then he could copy it and make his own. Said mate told him where he could stick it.
A family friend’s best mate got awarded an A in Woodwork Technology at A level. Amazing when he hadn’t even been on the course. Result = good career in the Forestry Commission on the back of it.
Fiddling degree grades is rather common I think.
4 of my mates at university who were studying Law got 2:2's and ended up at recruitment companies. I think attitude and aptitude is more important then degree subject with those guys. My brother studied criminology and went down the recruitment route prior to doing what he really wanted to do.
Frio3535 said:
4 of my mates at university who were studying Law got 2:2's and ended up at recruitment companies. I think attitude and aptitude is more important then degree subject with those guys. My brother studied criminology and went down the recruitment route prior to doing what he really wanted to do.
Funny you should say that - its something I do fancy doing!CountZero23 said:
This has got to be a wind up surely?
I don't even include my GCSE's on my CV at 34 with 11+ years experience in my job and a degree.
In my field (IT) I don't think I've ever had my degree checked, certainly the smaller companies I worked for never bothered. If you can pass the technical test and the rest of the process you're in.
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This was my point too - I'm a similar age, also in IT, contractor, have consigned 'academic achievements' to barely one line at the bottom of my CV because they are irrelevant when I'm engaged on technical merit only. Yet put yourself in front of certain clients and, as a formality, they will still subject you to background checks and the most ridiculously irrelevant minor details of your past *will* be scrutinised to the nth degree. In other words falsifying records - even trivially - can always come back to bite you on the arse spectacularly.I don't even include my GCSE's on my CV at 34 with 11+ years experience in my job and a degree.
In my field (IT) I don't think I've ever had my degree checked, certainly the smaller companies I worked for never bothered. If you can pass the technical test and the rest of the process you're in.
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If I'd lied about my GCSE's or A-levels in this case, I'd have been kicked offsite and contract terminated with no notice. The guy who hired me would know that these things have no bearing on my ability to do the work I was engaged to do, but HR/legal protocol would taking overriding precedence. For a permanent employee this would have a much more serious impact on one's career.
mattf93 said:
Frio3535 said:
4 of my mates at university who were studying Law got 2:2's and ended up at recruitment companies. I think attitude and aptitude is more important then degree subject with those guys. My brother studied criminology and went down the recruitment route prior to doing what he really wanted to do.
Funny you should say that - its something I do fancy doing!Phunk said:
My work fired a girl who looked after our Social Media after she lied about her degree.
She would of actually still got the job without the degree, but they didn't like that she lied.
There have been a number of NHS staff who have been dismissed and then reported to their professional regualtor to be struck off after making false statments over qualifications ...She would of actually still got the job without the degree, but they didn't like that she lied.
mattf93 said:
No, not planning on practicing at all.
And 1) It appears I'm not bright enough
2) Stress/Depression (but stupidly never went to a Dr about it) - So that will have no bearing on my classification.
3) very poor teaching on one module.
4) poor time management at uni.
Ok, if not going into Law that is something, however, ANY job that finds out you have lied on the CV to get the role is likely to dismiss for Gross Misconduct - and some will bring in the police too.And 1) It appears I'm not bright enough
2) Stress/Depression (but stupidly never went to a Dr about it) - So that will have no bearing on my classification.
3) very poor teaching on one module.
4) poor time management at uni.
Not bright enough, or simply not interested in the subject?
Depression - you can explain that one at interviews at least (should you want to do so of course)
Poor teaching - that is a degree - you do it yourself in the main, especially law, we were expected to do 20 odd hours more than class time (not that anyone did of course) in order to keep up.
Yes there is a lot of time management required for law as in theory you have a lot more to do than many other courses.
DeuxCentCinq said:
My company fired someone who accidentally put that they got a B in GCSE Geography and a C in History instead of the other way round. He was a 42 year old finance dept. manager with two degrees and a bunch of professional qualifications, but they literally fired him from an £80k a year (+ bonus) job for that mistake.
There is no way we're getting the full story here.Walked out of uni in 1991 with a 3rd
Knew in an instant that wouldn't get me a job (was a recession as well)
Wrote my CV put 2.1 down
Got on a grad program in a blue chip.
Been employed ever since...
Never checked
Sure I was risking everything but it was risk everything or get nothing...
When you have nothing to lose you always win.
Knew in an instant that wouldn't get me a job (was a recession as well)
Wrote my CV put 2.1 down
Got on a grad program in a blue chip.
Been employed ever since...
Never checked
Sure I was risking everything but it was risk everything or get nothing...
When you have nothing to lose you always win.
I sure as s
t wouldn't want to risk it. Also I know what its like to have a bad rep among recruiters - trust me when I say they all talk. Once youre fked, youre fked for good. Thanks to some bad interviews when I finished uni Ill probably never get another job again. Dont mess up your reputation.
Degrees are important, IMO, only for 2 reasons:
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you're looking to get a job at a large firm - the fact you are looking at a 2-2 tells me you wouldnt be a good fit in this sort of company anyway. I wouldn't worry too much if you get a 2-2... might mean you are filtered out during the initial selection but honestly I wouldnt get hung up on it.
2.
When you first get a job. Experience is more important than a god damm degree - unless you work for a massive company. XD
t wouldn't want to risk it. Also I know what its like to have a bad rep among recruiters - trust me when I say they all talk. Once youre fked, youre fked for good. Thanks to some bad interviews when I finished uni Ill probably never get another job again. Dont mess up your reputation.Degrees are important, IMO, only for 2 reasons:
1.
you're looking to get a job at a large firm - the fact you are looking at a 2-2 tells me you wouldnt be a good fit in this sort of company anyway. I wouldn't worry too much if you get a 2-2... might mean you are filtered out during the initial selection but honestly I wouldnt get hung up on it.
2.
When you first get a job. Experience is more important than a god damm degree - unless you work for a massive company. XD
MikeGoodwin said:
Once youre fked, youre fked for good. Thanks to some bad interviews when I finished uni Ill probably never get another job again.
Sorry, that's rubbish.ked, youre fked for good. Thanks to some bad interviews when I finished uni Ill probably never get another job again. Might hurt you for a few months if you are in a narrow field, but not life... Don't forget that there is also a very high turnover of recruiters, they certainly don't "all talk to each other", except in the same company... and there is no central black-list...
badgers_back said:
Walked out of uni in 1991 with a 3rd
Knew in an instant that wouldn't get me a job (was a recession as well)
Wrote my CV put 2.1 down
Got on a grad program in a blue chip.
Been employed ever since...
Never checked
Sure I was risking everything but it was risk everything or get nothing...
When you have nothing to lose you always win.
Are you still with the same company? It would suck for them to want to have a cull and go through everyones cv's looking for a reason to get rid of people at no cost.Knew in an instant that wouldn't get me a job (was a recession as well)
Wrote my CV put 2.1 down
Got on a grad program in a blue chip.
Been employed ever since...
Never checked
Sure I was risking everything but it was risk everything or get nothing...
When you have nothing to lose you always win.
If you were going to lie about it, I'd probably look to lie to get into one company, stay there for a while then get another job from there based on experience, and without lying on the CV. That way it then can't really come back to bite you on the ass years down the line.
Got a job on a graduate scheme in 2001 for a large bluechip - I interviewed nice and early well before my finals, they asked what my predicted grade was and I said "2:2", they said ok as that was the minimum they accepted (how times change).
Got a Douglas in the end. But got the job offer, and accepted, six weeks before the results. The offer was conditional on getting the grade. Mulled over the moral implications of not declaring this, and decided to keep schtum and hope for the best, as my prospects with a 3rd were not great, even then.
Was at that company for six years, never heard a peep. 15 years in industry now.
I wouldn't do this now though, I suspect companies are pretty hot on this these days.
Got a Douglas in the end. But got the job offer, and accepted, six weeks before the results. The offer was conditional on getting the grade. Mulled over the moral implications of not declaring this, and decided to keep schtum and hope for the best, as my prospects with a 3rd were not great, even then.
Was at that company for six years, never heard a peep. 15 years in industry now.
I wouldn't do this now though, I suspect companies are pretty hot on this these days.
badgers_back said:
Walked out of uni in 1991 with a 3rd
Knew in an instant that wouldn't get me a job (was a recession as well)
Wrote my CV put 2.1 down
Got on a grad program in a blue chip.
Been employed ever since...
Never checked
Sure I was risking everything but it was risk everything or get nothing...
When you have nothing to lose you always win.
Lying must be in your blood, last time you responded to one of these threads it was 'your mate'. Knew in an instant that wouldn't get me a job (was a recession as well)
Wrote my CV put 2.1 down
Got on a grad program in a blue chip.
Been employed ever since...
Never checked
Sure I was risking everything but it was risk everything or get nothing...
When you have nothing to lose you always win.
Pete102 said:
badgers_back said:
Walked out of uni in 1991 with a 3rd
Knew in an instant that wouldn't get me a job (was a recession as well)
Wrote my CV put 2.1 down
Got on a grad program in a blue chip.
Been employed ever since...
Never checked
Sure I was risking everything but it was risk everything or get nothing...
When you have nothing to lose you always win.
Lying must be in your blood, last time you responded to one of these threads it was 'your mate'. Knew in an instant that wouldn't get me a job (was a recession as well)
Wrote my CV put 2.1 down
Got on a grad program in a blue chip.
Been employed ever since...
Never checked
Sure I was risking everything but it was risk everything or get nothing...
When you have nothing to lose you always win.
So he/she did...
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