Reason's for leaving a job
Discussion
You can still say that the company is poor, but be careful of how it sounds. After all you work for them so by association you're poor too unless you explain why you think they are poor e.g. "I tried to implement better quality controls to prevent loss of service to customers but I was actively ignored and told not to. When the service went down I was blamed for not doing what I was stopped from doing". That has got me into the question of how I would improve my prospective employers business numerous times and I usually work for places where reputation is paramount so they like to know how to not pis of customers.
swerni said:
crofty1984 said:
Do not criticise current employer.
Why?I'd rather be honest with people.
I left my last job for a multitude of reasons and explained them all to the new company.
Last thing either of us want is me to join and find out the things that weren't right for me in the last place are the same here.
Phrases like: 'The way they are structured means that there is no further opportunity for advancement' are good.
Phrases like: 'I don't feel I get the support/training I need' are terrible, and you would be amazed at how many times I hear it
Reading this thread (& a couple of similar/related ones) with interest basically because I'm almost dying to get out of the current job I'm in..
The industry I work in (property management) is insanely incestuous it seems but the reason I want to leave is not the job, not my portfolio (the biggest in the office), not even the.. challenging leaseholders but its my boss.
I literally cannot stand him and the things he does in the office that he tries to pass off as company policy, the pressure he puts us under and the fact that despite us all sitting down and giving him a list of his faults he hasnt listened, hasnt changed but fervently believes he has. I have *ZIP* professional respect for him but I love the other people I work with. I would stay all day long if he left. The other day he sent us a ranty waffly email so long it printed off over 4 pages. No encouragement, no support, no positivity but threats of if his P&L doesnt improve, he'll sack one of us... There is just so much BS coming from him, I'm almost drowning in it.
Another reason to leave is that once you're a PM, that's it. No progression and the last time there was a pay rise at the company was 2008!!
I've had numerous interviews over the 2 and a bit years I've worked where I am and now an informal "chat" has become a formal "chat" next Tuesday. I'll use the formulaic career progression yada yada replies but I also like some of you guys above want to be honest but without being brutal/b
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The industry I work in (property management) is insanely incestuous it seems but the reason I want to leave is not the job, not my portfolio (the biggest in the office), not even the.. challenging leaseholders but its my boss.
I literally cannot stand him and the things he does in the office that he tries to pass off as company policy, the pressure he puts us under and the fact that despite us all sitting down and giving him a list of his faults he hasnt listened, hasnt changed but fervently believes he has. I have *ZIP* professional respect for him but I love the other people I work with. I would stay all day long if he left. The other day he sent us a ranty waffly email so long it printed off over 4 pages. No encouragement, no support, no positivity but threats of if his P&L doesnt improve, he'll sack one of us... There is just so much BS coming from him, I'm almost drowning in it.
Another reason to leave is that once you're a PM, that's it. No progression and the last time there was a pay rise at the company was 2008!!
I've had numerous interviews over the 2 and a bit years I've worked where I am and now an informal "chat" has become a formal "chat" next Tuesday. I'll use the formulaic career progression yada yada replies but I also like some of you guys above want to be honest but without being brutal/b
hyI think if you give a canned response, it tells the interviewer that you're not able to speak openly, you're possibly lying, and you've spent far too much time thinking of not answering the question rather than just coming out and saying what the problem is.
A guy once said to me 'Andy, cut the st...' mid way through some officespeak nonsense I was giving him about achieving greater things.
People tend to leave managers rather than companies. Sometimes people make mistakes joining companies that sound great at interview, and when you start actually working there, it's not what you thought. Sometimes you dont get on with who you're working with (I've had this with a manager and there was only one way that was going to end). Front it, doesnt need to be warts n'all, but it's a question designed to rattle you anyway
The best response I heard was 'so's I can come and work for you, do you think I can do the job?'
Took it from interviewer sticking interviewee in a corner, to grabbing them and putting them on the ropes. Really nicely delivered as well
A guy once said to me 'Andy, cut the s
t...' mid way through some officespeak nonsense I was giving him about achieving greater things. People tend to leave managers rather than companies. Sometimes people make mistakes joining companies that sound great at interview, and when you start actually working there, it's not what you thought. Sometimes you dont get on with who you're working with (I've had this with a manager and there was only one way that was going to end). Front it, doesnt need to be warts n'all, but it's a question designed to rattle you anyway
The best response I heard was 'so's I can come and work for you, do you think I can do the job?'
Took it from interviewer sticking interviewee in a corner, to grabbing them and putting them on the ropes. Really nicely delivered as well
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