Job search fatigue
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God I've got this atm. Gave up applying for jobs on all the main websites as I never heard anything back. Thanks to a PHer on here my CV is now much better and I am getting quite a few recruitment agents calling me but I've been there before with that, they call up about a good job, you get all excited and then hear diddly squat.
Its so slow and frustrating, everything takes ages. I am still doing a bit of work for my old business just to keep myself from going 'job search mad'.
Have I just got to sit it out and wait until something happens? What have you done in this sitaution?
Its so slow and frustrating, everything takes ages. I am still doing a bit of work for my old business just to keep myself from going 'job search mad'.
Have I just got to sit it out and wait until something happens? What have you done in this sitaution?
Kind of ironic really.
I'd suggest giving up on recruitment agents finding you something, I dont think any of them have actually found me something I wasnt already aware of.
It might be more worth your while approaching companies who you'd like to work for. Normally you can pull off a list from the Google of top employers in your area. You've done that, right? And then you can market yourself to them.
http://origin.misc.pagesuite.com/pdfdownload/6a781...
I'd suggest giving up on recruitment agents finding you something, I dont think any of them have actually found me something I wasnt already aware of.
It might be more worth your while approaching companies who you'd like to work for. Normally you can pull off a list from the Google of top employers in your area. You've done that, right? And then you can market yourself to them.
http://origin.misc.pagesuite.com/pdfdownload/6a781...
Undirection said:
God I've got this atm. Gave up applying for jobs on all the main websites as I never heard anything back. Thanks to a PHer on here my CV is now much better and I am getting quite a few recruitment agents calling me but I've been there before with that, they call up about a good job, you get all excited and then hear diddly squat.
Its so slow and frustrating, everything takes ages. I am still doing a bit of work for my old business just to keep myself from going 'job search mad'.
Have I just got to sit it out and wait until something happens? What have you done in this sitaution?
Just got myself out of this situation after 6 months at it. I must of put in 50 plus applications and finally after many unsuccessful interviews i got a job that i am happy with. Looking at jobs is boring when you know that the chances are you will not hear anything back. Only thing you can do is keep looking and then finally when you least expect it a job will crop up. One thing i will say in my experience is that recruitment agencies are a waste of time so i would not even bother including them in your job search. I used to receieve phone calls from them and then like yourself hear nothing. They are time wasters imo.Its so slow and frustrating, everything takes ages. I am still doing a bit of work for my old business just to keep myself from going 'job search mad'.
Have I just got to sit it out and wait until something happens? What have you done in this sitaution?
Undirection said:
Yes, I did look at that but it was more challenging than I thought. if I just look at companies there are vey few that I'd get excited about what they do!
That's a bulls
t excuseI've worked in companies where the product or service I was selling didnt make me want to jump out of bed in the morning and shout from the window, but the people I worked with, the environment I worked in and the things I was able to do made it a really good job.
Undirection said:
That said I am going to try this just by targeting the companies I'd like to work for, irrespective of their location.
That's more like it. Is there any chance of you relocating? While many jobs can be done remotely some companies need people in the office at their desks. It's something I struggle with, the industry I'm in typically is based on the M4, and I'm in Lancashire. I'm married and settled, and when people have asked whether I'd be looking to relocate to be in the office I've asked them what the relocation package is and they've gone quiet. I wouldnt move personally, but those are my circumstances.
Edited by andy-xr on Friday 20th November 08:59
Undirection said:
Thanks for the post. I am slightly unclear, did you just apply for jobs on company websites or the ones posted on things like CV Library (as you said you thought recruitment agencies were a waste of time)?
Direct to the companies through job search engines and on their website. Regained my motivation but flagging this week. Since my last posts I have applied to some companies I would like to work for but, tbh unless they have spare budget or a job going I am just going into their files. I thought of suggesting what I could do for them too but the above applies here too. There are some great automotive companies I'd like to work for but they are a long way away, too far to commute regularly.
My CV seems very good now and most recruitment consultants seem very excited about it and I get, roughly, a call a day. It does't bother me now. I just have a nice chat and then forget about them as I fully expect never to hear from them again. Its ok, I know that's the 'game'.
Had some job interviews:
1. A large recruitment website - great company but they had very specific needs and are still looking 3 months later!
2. A premium retirement community builder - nice concept, went to London for an interview(!), next week they offered an Aussie guy who was doing the role but going back home more money to stay and so he is!
3. Large IT business - lots of potential to progress career, the person interviewing was desperate to recruit. Me and 4 others were interviewed and then she decided she was too busy to train anyone new in the job atm!
4. Large exhibition company - still waiting after interview on this...
5. Int Software company - still waiting after telephone interview..
I'm just getting bored to death atm and trying to think of anything else I could do to expedite things. I have friends and family hounding me for holiday and social things and tbh they are the last things I want to be doing.
I thought of a little temp job like delivery driver or something just to get me out of house...
Anyway, just a little vent from me, as you were...
My CV seems very good now and most recruitment consultants seem very excited about it and I get, roughly, a call a day. It does't bother me now. I just have a nice chat and then forget about them as I fully expect never to hear from them again. Its ok, I know that's the 'game'.
Had some job interviews:
1. A large recruitment website - great company but they had very specific needs and are still looking 3 months later!
2. A premium retirement community builder - nice concept, went to London for an interview(!), next week they offered an Aussie guy who was doing the role but going back home more money to stay and so he is!
3. Large IT business - lots of potential to progress career, the person interviewing was desperate to recruit. Me and 4 others were interviewed and then she decided she was too busy to train anyone new in the job atm!
4. Large exhibition company - still waiting after interview on this...
5. Int Software company - still waiting after telephone interview..
I'm just getting bored to death atm and trying to think of anything else I could do to expedite things. I have friends and family hounding me for holiday and social things and tbh they are the last things I want to be doing.
I thought of a little temp job like delivery driver or something just to get me out of house...
Anyway, just a little vent from me, as you were...
The company I work for are looking for someone in marketing, but it's London based.
http://www.misys.com/careers/vacancies/vacancy/374...
Not sure if this would be of interest, or suited to you?
http://www.misys.com/careers/vacancies/vacancy/374...
Not sure if this would be of interest, or suited to you?
DanL said:
The company I work for are looking for someone in marketing, but it's London based.
http://www.misys.com/careers/vacancies/vacancy/374...
Not sure if this would be of interest, or suited to you?
Thank you, much appreciated, I'll have a look.http://www.misys.com/careers/vacancies/vacancy/374...
Not sure if this would be of interest, or suited to you?
Get networking on LinkedIn, or be prepared to take a salary cut and/or move to where the work is.
If you cant find work where you are then you'e just going to have to suck it up and commute, even if it means cheap digs during the week and a bunch of travelling.
Then you can start looking closer to home.
Trueism No 1 - its easier to find a job when you've got a job.
If you cant find work where you are then you'e just going to have to suck it up and commute, even if it means cheap digs during the week and a bunch of travelling.
Then you can start looking closer to home.
Trueism No 1 - its easier to find a job when you've got a job.
Some companies will be motivated to look at you if you don't come through an agency, particularly SMEs. An agent will typically charge 15% or so of your salary for finding and introducing you. Therefore a marketing manager on £30k is going to be a relatively expensive hire. If that marketing manager uses his marketing skills to market himself directly, he can make himself enticing (and have more bargaining power on salary level).
A strong Linkedin profile and a simple but carefully done personal website, with a showreel of work/achievements/your USPs, would be a great way for a potential employer to easily visualise your approach and potential value from the word go.
Final thing might be take a couple of things from the sales kit bag- don't be afraid to put yourself in front of people and don't let it upset you when people say no. Trying to avoid the no also removes the opportunity for someone to say yes.
A strong Linkedin profile and a simple but carefully done personal website, with a showreel of work/achievements/your USPs, would be a great way for a potential employer to easily visualise your approach and potential value from the word go.
Final thing might be take a couple of things from the sales kit bag- don't be afraid to put yourself in front of people and don't let it upset you when people say no. Trying to avoid the no also removes the opportunity for someone to say yes.
I'd be looking at something different entirely. Marketing is about a point of difference, creativity, being seen etc. So do that. See a job advertised, don't send a CV.
Take yourself to their office, do something creative with your CV, chances are whoever's screening them has seen enough to last a lifetime so drop off a coffee with some details on the cup, a box with a brick in it and the CV, printed on a cardboard Xmas tree, anything that will make sure it's read and actually demonstrates some of the stuff that will no doubt be written on it. Print it on your t-shirt, wear a costume, whatever.
Takes a certain sort of person, and isn't without risk but chances are you'll end up meeting the person who is selecting and have an opportunity to chat. If you don't the receptionist will tell them some weirdo was at the front desk and then they'll look. For me it beats sending CVs away with little hope of anything ever coming back.
Take yourself to their office, do something creative with your CV, chances are whoever's screening them has seen enough to last a lifetime so drop off a coffee with some details on the cup, a box with a brick in it and the CV, printed on a cardboard Xmas tree, anything that will make sure it's read and actually demonstrates some of the stuff that will no doubt be written on it. Print it on your t-shirt, wear a costume, whatever.
Takes a certain sort of person, and isn't without risk but chances are you'll end up meeting the person who is selecting and have an opportunity to chat. If you don't the receptionist will tell them some weirdo was at the front desk and then they'll look. For me it beats sending CVs away with little hope of anything ever coming back.
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