New offence: Driving without flair or intention
Discussion
Along the lines of "driving without due care and attention" I propose that a new offence be created specifically that of
"Driving without flair or intention"
The driver may be found guilty of this if driving in a manner which leads the officer observing to believe that said driver might be better off taking the bus or train.
Examples include, but are not limited to, the following:
Maintaining a steady but irritatingly slow speed on NSL roads (e.g 45mph irrespective of posted speed limit)
Failing to make use of main beam to allow safer progress at night
Please feel free to add other examples worthy of this charge.
"Driving without flair or intention"
The driver may be found guilty of this if driving in a manner which leads the officer observing to believe that said driver might be better off taking the bus or train.
Examples include, but are not limited to, the following:
Maintaining a steady but irritatingly slow speed on NSL roads (e.g 45mph irrespective of posted speed limit)
Failing to make use of main beam to allow safer progress at night
Please feel free to add other examples worthy of this charge.
Found this via the knob thread.
Mr/Mrs/Other Average would be SP30 so report them is it's that's big of an issue.
Mr/Mrs/Other 45 in a 60 would Due Consideration if the is no reason for the hold up.
Having said that a lot of drivers on national speed limit country lanes take it easy this time time of year...
...with good reason.
Mr/Mrs/Other Average would be SP30 so report them is it's that's big of an issue.
Mr/Mrs/Other 45 in a 60 would Due Consideration if the is no reason for the hold up.
Having said that a lot of drivers on national speed limit country lanes take it easy this time time of year...
...with good reason.
Liquid Knight said:
Found this via the knob thread.
Mr/Mrs/Other Average would be SP30 so report them is it's that's big of an issue.
Mr/Mrs/Other 45 in a 60 would Due Consideration if the is no reason for the hold up.
Having said that a lot of drivers on national speed limit country lanes take it easy this time time of year...
...with good reason.
:-)Mr/Mrs/Other Average would be SP30 so report them is it's that's big of an issue.
Mr/Mrs/Other 45 in a 60 would Due Consideration if the is no reason for the hold up.
Having said that a lot of drivers on national speed limit country lanes take it easy this time time of year...
...with good reason.
Drive according to the prevailing conditions - my commute is mainly rural "A" roads, a surprising number of motorcyclists and "hot" car drivers completely oblivious to the possibility that a tractor may emerge from that field or be lurking in that dip. They surely can't be so keen to get to work that they would risk a trip to the undertaker?
My commute isn't a bad one if I happen to be flowing with the right type of drivers but, it's made infuriating by people who cannot get within 10mph of the speed limit i.e was stuck behind someone doing 25mph in 40mph zone this week, and 40mph on NSL B roads are common which are fairly straight or sweepingly bent at worst. What adds to this is the bunch is dimwitted drivers who just pile up behind them and follow them for 18miles without intention to overtake despite many safe opportunities so, those of us with a brain, stuck 43 cars back have no chance.
Others that annoy me are those who cannot pull away. Lights go green and we sit, or we take 15 seconds to get to 30mph. Then you have those who brake for EVERY bend regardless of speed or severity of turn, or worse do that and brake when another car comes in the opposite direction, posing no threat at all on a road hugely wide enough for two HGVs to pass.
Then, how about those at side turnings who see you approaching at NSL (when you're lucky enough to get there), stop, creep, stop and then pull out when you're 100m away. I had one, again this week who did it so last minute (who had seen) that I had to wrench right onto the opposite side of the road which was luckily clear. If it hadn't been I'd have been in the back of a Touran and pretty well mushed to death.
The brainless not only walk and work among us, but it's easily evident who they are from their driving style. If their brains were a light bulb, they'd be dimly lit at best and I can almost imagine the signal from the brain to the limb that must perform any driving action crawling along the nerves, drunk. All that's going on in their tiny Swede's is basic function and a long monotone "duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur".
Others that annoy me are those who cannot pull away. Lights go green and we sit, or we take 15 seconds to get to 30mph. Then you have those who brake for EVERY bend regardless of speed or severity of turn, or worse do that and brake when another car comes in the opposite direction, posing no threat at all on a road hugely wide enough for two HGVs to pass.
Then, how about those at side turnings who see you approaching at NSL (when you're lucky enough to get there), stop, creep, stop and then pull out when you're 100m away. I had one, again this week who did it so last minute (who had seen) that I had to wrench right onto the opposite side of the road which was luckily clear. If it hadn't been I'd have been in the back of a Touran and pretty well mushed to death.
The brainless not only walk and work among us, but it's easily evident who they are from their driving style. If their brains were a light bulb, they'd be dimly lit at best and I can almost imagine the signal from the brain to the limb that must perform any driving action crawling along the nerves, drunk. All that's going on in their tiny Swede's is basic function and a long monotone "duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur".
Edited by 1Addicted on Thursday 28th July 12:19
100SRV said:
Liquid Knight said:
Found this via the knob thread.
Mr/Mrs/Other Average would be SP30 so report them is it's that's big of an issue.
Mr/Mrs/Other 45 in a 60 would Due Consideration if the is no reason for the hold up.
Having said that a lot of drivers on national speed limit country lanes take it easy this time time of year...
...with good reason.
:-)Mr/Mrs/Other Average would be SP30 so report them is it's that's big of an issue.
Mr/Mrs/Other 45 in a 60 would Due Consideration if the is no reason for the hold up.
Having said that a lot of drivers on national speed limit country lanes take it easy this time time of year...
...with good reason.
Drive according to the prevailing conditions - my commute is mainly rural "A" roads, a surprising number of motorcyclists and "hot" car drivers completely oblivious to the possibility that a tractor may emerge from that field or be lurking in that dip. They surely can't be so keen to get to work that they would risk a trip to the undertaker?
I have never had a near miss with anything remotely interesting, but have performed numerous emergency stops / departures off into the grass verge for middle-aged f
kwits driving white-goods cars. I've taken avoiding action for the same ugly bh in a cooking model current gen Ford Focus cutting the same fking blind bend at speed 3 fking times - each one with saucer eyes plastered on her sagging face. There's no shortage of old fkers who can't think round here.Next time I see a Porsche or an AMG or even a Corsa VXR driving like a retard round my way I'll chime back in here and update - but for now it seems to be almost exclusively middle aged people in s
t diesel hatchbacks who struggle with the basics of rural driving.HustleRussell said:
Ooh what about people who stab randomly at the brake pedal every time there is a bend in the road or an oncoming vehicle appears on the horizon?
And people who gently rest their foot on the pedal because they are going down an incline (so that the brake lights come on), but aren't actually braking.Europa1 said:
HustleRussell said:
Ooh what about people who stab randomly at the brake pedal every time there is a bend in the road or an oncoming vehicle appears on the horizon?
And people who gently rest their foot on the pedal because they are going down an incline (so that the brake lights come on), but aren't actually braking.What's also irritating is when the next car behind is a knuckle dragging half-wit in a car perfectly capable of passing without any drama whatsoever yet who never actually makes the move - meaning that the white van man behind them is stuck through lack of power, and the Honda CRV behind the 3 of them has no hope and even you with your fairly powerful PH car can't safely get past all 4 of them in the spaces available on a typical NSL A or B road.
DJM7691 said:
People that, when approaching a roundabout with incredible visibility, still feel the need to stop and check when it is clear.
That's called driving with due care and attention. The number of twunts who enter a roundabout with no intention of stopping at the "GIVE WAY" line and have to do an emergency stop mid-bend because a cyclist wearing hi-viz pulled on to the roundabout when they were two hundred Yards away. Liquid Knight said:
DJM7691 said:
People that, when approaching a roundabout with incredible visibility, still feel the need to stop and check when it is clear.
That's called driving with due care and attention. The number of twunts who enter a roundabout with no intention of stopping at the "GIVE WAY" line and have to do an emergency stop mid-bend because a cyclist wearing hi-viz pulled on to the roundabout when they were two hundred Yards away. Europa1 said:
Liquid Knight said:
DJM7691 said:
People that, when approaching a roundabout with incredible visibility, still feel the need to stop and check when it is clear.
That's called driving with due care and attention. The number of twunts who enter a roundabout with no intention of stopping at the "GIVE WAY" line and have to do an emergency stop mid-bend because a cyclist wearing hi-viz pulled on to the roundabout when they were two hundred Yards away.
There are a couple of incredible visibility roundabouts but they tend to either be the painted on a junction type like the myriad in Watford or someone has stolen the signs, posts and other road furniture like Milton Keynes. Either way if I have someone behind me I will slow and maybe stop depending on competence and road language of the vehicle behind.
Liquid Knight said:
DJM7691 said:
People that, when approaching a roundabout with incredible visibility, still feel the need to stop and check when it is clear.
That's called driving with due care and attention. The number of twunts who enter a roundabout with no intention of stopping at the "GIVE WAY" line and have to do an emergency stop mid-bend because a cyclist wearing hi-viz pulled on to the roundabout when they were two hundred Yards away. Stopping when there is no actual requirement to stop implies that you can't think more than 10 feet past the end of your bonnet.
jamieduff1981 said:
I live rurally too, but my observations are different. I am very aware of obstructions / wild or farm animals on the road / farm equipment etc and to be honest most locals make good progress whilst slowing down for the blind bends.
I have never had a near miss with anything remotely interesting, but have performed numerous emergency stops / departures off into the grass verge for middle-aged fkwits driving white-goods cars. I've taken avoiding action for the same ugly bh in a cooking model current gen Ford Focus cutting the same fking blind bend at speed 3 fking times - each one with saucer eyes plastered on her sagging face. There's no shortage of old fkers who can't think round here.
Next time I see a Porsche or an AMG or even a Corsa VXR driving like a retard round my way I'll chime back in here and update - but for now it seems to be almost exclusively middle aged people in st diesel hatchbacks who struggle with the basics of rural driving.
Totally agree with the above.I do A 70 mile round trip commute on A and B roads and the biggest and most dangerous problems are idiots who can't keep to their side of the road ( one in particular dives a 6 year old Golf she can hardly see out of at 50mph everywhere with at least 1/3 of her car on the opposite side at all times) and lorries transporting felled trees that seem to be re-enacting the 1950's film Hell Drivers every day.I have never had a near miss with anything remotely interesting, but have performed numerous emergency stops / departures off into the grass verge for middle-aged f
kwits driving white-goods cars. I've taken avoiding action for the same ugly bh in a cooking model current gen Ford Focus cutting the same fking blind bend at speed 3 fking times - each one with saucer eyes plastered on her sagging face. There's no shortage of old fkers who can't think round here.Next time I see a Porsche or an AMG or even a Corsa VXR driving like a retard round my way I'll chime back in here and update - but for now it seems to be almost exclusively middle aged people in s
t diesel hatchbacks who struggle with the basics of rural driving.It is becoming more and more common to find people cutting bends without the slightest thought of the danger but they are still not as bad as the daft bint I encountered a few months ago who was driving completely on the wrong side heading towards me and even though I stopped she only avoided a head on crash by swerving into the drive of a house on my side of the road.She then pulled out again and carried on.I reported that one to the police.
undred orse said:
jamieduff1981 said:
I live rurally too, but my observations are different. I am very aware of obstructions / wild or farm animals on the road / farm equipment etc and to be honest most locals make good progress whilst slowing down for the blind bends.
I have never had a near miss with anything remotely interesting, but have performed numerous emergency stops / departures off into the grass verge for middle-aged fkwits driving white-goods cars. I've taken avoiding action for the same ugly bh in a cooking model current gen Ford Focus cutting the same fking blind bend at speed 3 fking times - each one with saucer eyes plastered on her sagging face. There's no shortage of old fkers who can't think round here.
Next time I see a Porsche or an AMG or even a Corsa VXR driving like a retard round my way I'll chime back in here and update - but for now it seems to be almost exclusively middle aged people in st diesel hatchbacks who struggle with the basics of rural driving.
Totally agree with the above.I do A 70 mile round trip commute on A and B roads and the biggest and most dangerous problems are idiots who can't keep to their side of the road ( one in particular dives a 6 year old Golf she can hardly see out of at 50mph everywhere with at least 1/3 of her car on the opposite side at all times) and lorries transporting felled trees that seem to be re-enacting the 1950's film Hell Drivers every day.I have never had a near miss with anything remotely interesting, but have performed numerous emergency stops / departures off into the grass verge for middle-aged f
kwits driving white-goods cars. I've taken avoiding action for the same ugly bh in a cooking model current gen Ford Focus cutting the same fking blind bend at speed 3 fking times - each one with saucer eyes plastered on her sagging face. There's no shortage of old fkers who can't think round here.Next time I see a Porsche or an AMG or even a Corsa VXR driving like a retard round my way I'll chime back in here and update - but for now it seems to be almost exclusively middle aged people in s
t diesel hatchbacks who struggle with the basics of rural driving.It is becoming more and more common to find people cutting bends without the slightest thought of the danger but they are still not as bad as the daft bint I encountered a few months ago who was driving completely on the wrong side heading towards me and even though I stopped she only avoided a head on crash by swerving into the drive of a house on my side of the road.She then pulled out again and carried on.I reported that one to the police.
Townies who have moved so Charlie (boy or girl) can get into a school that doesn't have graffiti on the sign and are cluelessly piloting Nissan Qashqi/Juke, Audi Q3/5/7, BMW X3/5 or division two Land/Range Rover soccer specials on both sides of the road because they are so wide.
Racing liners who think they are on a rally stage even though they are driving a works Citroen Belingo van.
9-5ers who overslept and are taking a back road short cut after a couple of Amateur-minus washed down with a can of Orange Cow because the Police hardly ever use these routes they can do 100+mph on the straights and slow to 20mph for the bends. They don't know the roads well enough to keep reasonable pace.
School runner taxi/minibus's who have twenty minutes to do a forty minute journey because Charlie overslept and the rest of the children will get detention for being late so he/she/other will be late home by default.
There are others but those are the main four contenders.
Amateur-minus = Pro-plus and Orange Cow = Red Bull due to copyright and advertising issues.
Edited by Liquid Knight on Thursday 28th July 14:37
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