In 5 years time......
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xjay1337 said:
But you are now 25% salary down.
The only benefit is a discount you get for teaching there for your kids and the fact you get to see your kids.
I don't think your kids would suffer at school if you weren't there, surely your contact with them at school has to be limited professionally.
Sounds like you are being discriminated against.
I fought tooth and nail and went through hell to have my rights as a father respected!The only benefit is a discount you get for teaching there for your kids and the fact you get to see your kids.
I don't think your kids would suffer at school if you weren't there, surely your contact with them at school has to be limited professionally.
Sounds like you are being discriminated against.
I made a promise to my children to always be there for them. When i see the emotional, psychological and even physical effects of a parental break up on teenagers i teach, i know my children have been relatively lucky!
Wait till you see the effects on your kids when you hate your job, are worse off and cant afford what you want.
Id rather see my dad a few times a week and he be happy and what not than every day and be miserable.
Plenty of divorced relationship' kids grow up fine.
Me for example.
You'll put a front on for the kids but that will fade quickly.
Id rather see my dad a few times a week and he be happy and what not than every day and be miserable.
Plenty of divorced relationship' kids grow up fine.
Me for example.
You'll put a front on for the kids but that will fade quickly.
rosbif77 said:
The blatant racism is everywhere but 'hidden'. Every native born English speaker i've worked with over the past 19 years here has told me the same things. The extra loops to jump through to climb up the job ladder, the 'if you don't like the way your being treated here p
s off back to where you came from' type of attitude, the ridiculous paperwork to fill in, or the cold shouldering from colleagues who think that because your foreign born you have no right to reach their professional level. A lot of these people treat any foreigner, not just Anglo-Saxons, in the same way!!!
It's a real shame because having lived here for a while France has a lot of positives. The food, the wonderful scenery and different landscapes, the quality of education, the health system, even public transport which is pretty cheap compared to most places.
Unfortunately, the job market seems to be stuck in some sort of time lapse!
Please tell me you don't teach English!s off back to where you came from' type of attitude, the ridiculous paperwork to fill in, or the cold shouldering from colleagues who think that because your foreign born you have no right to reach their professional level. A lot of these people treat any foreigner, not just Anglo-Saxons, in the same way!!!It's a real shame because having lived here for a while France has a lot of positives. The food, the wonderful scenery and different landscapes, the quality of education, the health system, even public transport which is pretty cheap compared to most places.
Unfortunately, the job market seems to be stuck in some sort of time lapse!
xjay1337 said:
Wait till you see the effects on your kids when you hate your job, are worse off and cant afford what you want.
Id rather see my dad a few times a week and he be happy and what not than every day and be miserable.
Plenty of divorced relationship' kids grow up fine.
Me for example.
You'll put a front on for the kids but that will fade quickly.
I love teaching the baccalauréat, enjoy working with the students, and have an excellent relationship with the parents.Id rather see my dad a few times a week and he be happy and what not than every day and be miserable.
Plenty of divorced relationship' kids grow up fine.
Me for example.
You'll put a front on for the kids but that will fade quickly.
My kids know and appreciate how much i've sacrificed for them over the years, and they definitely don't want me to move elsewhere.
Unfortunately, life doesn't always work out the way you hoped it would. I'm not going to give up on my children, and with the lack of a full time/better paid job locally, i realise i'm going to have to stick it out, hence the reason for starting this thread.
Edited by rosbif77 on Wednesday 8th June 05:57
Sounds like a rock & a hard place.
Anyway, back to the question. Are you thinking completely different or just teaching somewhere else ? Poster above recommended Middle East for a while....or Far East. I'm guessing that's something to explore if you want to stay in teaching and are happy to move away from the kids once they leave school. Private tuition to a Sheiks family sounds good :-). Mind you, most of the teenagers are probably at Eton !
If it's out of the box thinking, I'd start to document key skills that you have that might be transferable first, coupled with the attributes of the current job you love, and what you hate.... then consider what that might fit outside of teaching.
Of course, the other option is to choose something you fancy and train for it over the 5 years you are planning.
Anyway, back to the question. Are you thinking completely different or just teaching somewhere else ? Poster above recommended Middle East for a while....or Far East. I'm guessing that's something to explore if you want to stay in teaching and are happy to move away from the kids once they leave school. Private tuition to a Sheiks family sounds good :-). Mind you, most of the teenagers are probably at Eton !
If it's out of the box thinking, I'd start to document key skills that you have that might be transferable first, coupled with the attributes of the current job you love, and what you hate.... then consider what that might fit outside of teaching.
Of course, the other option is to choose something you fancy and train for it over the 5 years you are planning.
In your other thread you pretty much said no to anything entrepreneurial based on you not having any idea where to start.
Some have the mindset for it, some don't. No biggie. So maybe better to focus on an area that has a higher chance of producing tangible results such as a degree to take you in a different direction.
Or as previously mentioned, teaching in a different country.
Some have the mindset for it, some don't. No biggie. So maybe better to focus on an area that has a higher chance of producing tangible results such as a degree to take you in a different direction.
Or as previously mentioned, teaching in a different country.
DoubleTime said:
In your other thread you pretty much said no to anything entrepreneurial based on you not having any idea where to start.
Some have the mindset for it, some don't. No biggie. So maybe better to focus on an area that has a higher chance of producing tangible results such as a degree to take you in a different direction.
Or as previously mentioned, teaching in a different country.
One idea that i'm mulling over is to do a masters degree. I thought about it years ago but family commitments led me to drop it. Now i've got a lot more free time, both at school and at home. Costs about 500 euros /year in France. (Distance learning study fees)Some have the mindset for it, some don't. No biggie. So maybe better to focus on an area that has a higher chance of producing tangible results such as a degree to take you in a different direction.
Or as previously mentioned, teaching in a different country.
Pothole said:
ell me how exactly you've managed that.
Basically, you're telling us you've experienced the blatant racism so prevalent in mainland Europe. A school friend of mine has lived in Holland for the last 20 years and speaks it like a native as far as her (Dutch) husband and family are concerned, yet she was told time and time again by employers who interviewed her that they'd rather a less qualified local took the job as customers would like it better...I can't imagine most other countries are any different. My own experience of Malta was the same, effectively.
You know what you have to do, but I feel your pain. Disgusting behaviour!
Interesting. I've spent a bit of time in Malta over the past few years (leisure, not business) and would never have guessed that would be true.Basically, you're telling us you've experienced the blatant racism so prevalent in mainland Europe. A school friend of mine has lived in Holland for the last 20 years and speaks it like a native as far as her (Dutch) husband and family are concerned, yet she was told time and time again by employers who interviewed her that they'd rather a less qualified local took the job as customers would like it better...I can't imagine most other countries are any different. My own experience of Malta was the same, effectively.
You know what you have to do, but I feel your pain. Disgusting behaviour!
Nezquick said:
Interesting. I've spent a bit of time in Malta over the past few years (leisure, not business) and would never have guessed that would be true.
Malta and France don't have the same attitudes towards work. Once you've lived in the country for a while you get a totally different atmosphere compared to your summer holiday on the beach. It's the everyday hidden things that after many years become 'visible' and suck the energy out of you.I'd be more concerned that I didn't lose another 25% salary next year - never mind in 5 years. It doesn't sound like they want you to stay at all - quite the opposite.
Are you really sure 'sticking it out for 5 years' is even on the table?
The way you describe it, they sound like they're telling you indirectly, to leave.
They're just narrowing your options gradually until you have absolutely no choice.
I can't see you making another 5 years in that atmosphere - surely better to go while you can still choose.
Are you really sure 'sticking it out for 5 years' is even on the table?
The way you describe it, they sound like they're telling you indirectly, to leave.
They're just narrowing your options gradually until you have absolutely no choice.
I can't see you making another 5 years in that atmosphere - surely better to go while you can still choose.
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