Change your name, or stop working.
Discussion
GCH said:
karona said:
Laura's HR department want a clear paper trail from Smith to Jones to Davis, but according to them the jump from Smith to Jones should have been via deed poll, and now want her to somehow fill that gap by changing her name now to Jones via deed poll.
is right, you couldn't make it up, hence asking here for advice.karona said:
Laura's HR department want a clear paper trail from Smith to Jones to Davis, but according to them the jump from Smith to Jones should have been via deed poll, and now want her to somehow fill that gap by changing her name now to Jones via deed poll.
How would that even be possible? Her names legally Davis, by marriage. She completed the relevant HR paperwork when she married, and 'Davis' is on her monthly pay statement.
I've suggested she see an employment solicitor, as far as I can see she's acted legally and above board all the way through, and stopping her from working because of something we did or didn't do when she was a child cannot possible be legal.
Yes, I think they are being a bit silly. Not least because there is no legal requirement to formally change your name. You can use any name you like as long as you are not trying to commit fraud. They only restriction is on legal docs where they want some sort of proof (eg deed poll, but as pointed out by others the back of a napkin might do it.....). At least, I am pretty sure that is the rules in England.How would that even be possible? Her names legally Davis, by marriage. She completed the relevant HR paperwork when she married, and 'Davis' is on her monthly pay statement.
I've suggested she see an employment solicitor, as far as I can see she's acted legally and above board all the way through, and stopping her from working because of something we did or didn't do when she was a child cannot possible be legal.
Like you say, she can't change it to Jones and then keep on using Davis anyway so what they are asking is stupid.
karona said:
wouldn't she need two of them? One from Smith to Jones then one from Jones to Davis so she can still use her married name? I think a call to Citizens advice might help here?
brman said:
karona said:
wouldn't she need two of them? One from Smith to Jones then one from Jones to Davis so she can still use her married name? I think a call to Citizens advice might help here?
right now karona said:
She doesn't need that, and doing it now and backdating it would be a definite no-no.Whatever documentation was shown to the passport office was sufficient at that time.
Showing whoever is requesting this her original (birth name) passport, her youth (stepfathers name) passport, and her current (married name) passport should be sufficient for these purposes now as it shows a trail from birth to current name, not that she should have to!
She has proof of her current legal name and identity as well as N.I is in her correct married name, so whatever was prior to that is quite frankly irrelevant and not really their concern or their business. She could have been born with the name 'boris hitler-trump hindley', but that is totally irrelevant to her current legal name and the proof she can provide of this.
I have never had to show my deed poll, with the exception of when I first changed all my documents and bank accounts over, and when I emigrated from the UK. My current passports and other official ID are taken as lawful proof of my identity as it is now and should be sufficient in this case too.
I'm still thinking something's been lost in communication.
She's requesting a formal interview with HR, the local rep is a bit of an intellectual lightweight, and will be taking old passports, copies of our divorce and marriage papers etc, Fortunately my OH is a hoarder, there's documents going back decades in boxes here.
She's requesting a formal interview with HR, the local rep is a bit of an intellectual lightweight, and will be taking old passports, copies of our divorce and marriage papers etc, Fortunately my OH is a hoarder, there's documents going back decades in boxes here.
karona said:
I'm still thinking something's been lost in communication.
Sounds very much like it. Years ago I had a ridiculous situation with an employer over accreditations that were required for the role, mine were 3 or 4 times higher than that required but I was told to suspend what I was doing until I did the lower level quals that I had let expire as they were completely superseded by the newer ones. When the HR manager actually got involved which took a week he explained to his staff what utter tw*ts they were being.
Amend as appropriate.
I Laura Amy Davis of 1 Little Puddle Lane, Bigboyshire PL8 9DZ do make this Statement of Truth as follows:-
1. I was born on the 32nd Dewtember 1991 and at the time of the registration of my birth was given the name Laura Amy Brown.
2. On or about October 1999 my mother met Mr Bigballs Smith and after setting up home with him I adopted his surname of Smith which was the legal name I used in all communications and official papers.
3. My mother has confirmed that no Statutory Declaration or other instrument was used to officially change my name but that my new name of Laura Amy Smith was accepted by all state and government bodies and until the time of my marriage in 2009 I used that name and held both a passport and Drivers Licence in that name.
4. On the 30th February 2009 I married my husband and assumed his surname of Davis. Since that time i have altered all of my official papers and exclusively go by, use and am known by the name Laura Amy Davis.
AND I BELIEVE that the facts stated in this Statement of Truth are true
SIGNED by the above named
DATE
I Laura Amy Davis of 1 Little Puddle Lane, Bigboyshire PL8 9DZ do make this Statement of Truth as follows:-
1. I was born on the 32nd Dewtember 1991 and at the time of the registration of my birth was given the name Laura Amy Brown.
2. On or about October 1999 my mother met Mr Bigballs Smith and after setting up home with him I adopted his surname of Smith which was the legal name I used in all communications and official papers.
3. My mother has confirmed that no Statutory Declaration or other instrument was used to officially change my name but that my new name of Laura Amy Smith was accepted by all state and government bodies and until the time of my marriage in 2009 I used that name and held both a passport and Drivers Licence in that name.
4. On the 30th February 2009 I married my husband and assumed his surname of Davis. Since that time i have altered all of my official papers and exclusively go by, use and am known by the name Laura Amy Davis.
AND I BELIEVE that the facts stated in this Statement of Truth are true
SIGNED by the above named
DATE
Rude-boy said:
Amend as appropriate.
I Laura Amy Davis of 1 Little Puddle Lane, Bigboyshire PL8 9DZ do make this Statement of Truth as follows:-
1. I was born on the 32nd Dewtember 1991 and at the time of the registration of my birth was given the name Laura Amy Brown.
2. On or about October 1999 my mother met Mr Bigballs Smith and after setting up home with him I adopted his surname of Smith which was the legal name I used in all communications and official papers.
3. My mother has confirmed that no Statutory Declaration or other instrument was used to officially change my name but that my new name of Laura Amy Smith was accepted by all state and government bodies and until the time of my marriage in 2009 I used that name and held both a passport and Drivers Licence in that name.
4. On the 30th February 2009 I married my husband and assumed his surname of Davis. Since that time i have altered all of my official papers and exclusively go by, use and am known by the name Laura Amy Davis.
AND I BELIEVE that the facts stated in this Statement of Truth are true
SIGNED by the above named
DATE
Thank you, that pretty much covers all basesI Laura Amy Davis of 1 Little Puddle Lane, Bigboyshire PL8 9DZ do make this Statement of Truth as follows:-
1. I was born on the 32nd Dewtember 1991 and at the time of the registration of my birth was given the name Laura Amy Brown.
2. On or about October 1999 my mother met Mr Bigballs Smith and after setting up home with him I adopted his surname of Smith which was the legal name I used in all communications and official papers.
3. My mother has confirmed that no Statutory Declaration or other instrument was used to officially change my name but that my new name of Laura Amy Smith was accepted by all state and government bodies and until the time of my marriage in 2009 I used that name and held both a passport and Drivers Licence in that name.
4. On the 30th February 2009 I married my husband and assumed his surname of Davis. Since that time i have altered all of my official papers and exclusively go by, use and am known by the name Laura Amy Davis.
AND I BELIEVE that the facts stated in this Statement of Truth are true
SIGNED by the above named
DATE
Bigballs
Almost certainly to do with the right to work crusade the government are on. They'll be needing to prove that L was legally entitled to work for the entire period of her employment, and her using a name that wasn't her legal name will be complicating things. Certainly changing her name to Jones now is pointless.
karona said:
Rude-boy said:
Amend as appropriate.
I Laura Amy Davis of 1 Little Puddle Lane, Bigboyshire PL8 9DZ do make this Statement of Truth as follows:-
1. I was born on the 32nd Dewtember 1991 and at the time of the registration of my birth was given the name Laura Amy Brown.
2. On or about October 1999 my mother met Mr Bigballs Smith and after setting up home with him I adopted his surname of Smith which was the legal name I used in all communications and official papers.
3. My mother has confirmed that no Statutory Declaration or other instrument was used to officially change my name but that my new name of Laura Amy Smith was accepted by all state and government bodies and until the time of my marriage in 2009 I used that name and held both a passport and Drivers Licence in that name.
4. On the 30th February 2009 I married my husband and assumed his surname of Davis. Since that time i have altered all of my official papers and exclusively go by, use and am known by the name Laura Amy Davis.
AND I BELIEVE that the facts stated in this Statement of Truth are true
SIGNED by the above named
DATE
Thank you, that pretty much covers all basesI Laura Amy Davis of 1 Little Puddle Lane, Bigboyshire PL8 9DZ do make this Statement of Truth as follows:-
1. I was born on the 32nd Dewtember 1991 and at the time of the registration of my birth was given the name Laura Amy Brown.
2. On or about October 1999 my mother met Mr Bigballs Smith and after setting up home with him I adopted his surname of Smith which was the legal name I used in all communications and official papers.
3. My mother has confirmed that no Statutory Declaration or other instrument was used to officially change my name but that my new name of Laura Amy Smith was accepted by all state and government bodies and until the time of my marriage in 2009 I used that name and held both a passport and Drivers Licence in that name.
4. On the 30th February 2009 I married my husband and assumed his surname of Davis. Since that time i have altered all of my official papers and exclusively go by, use and am known by the name Laura Amy Davis.
AND I BELIEVE that the facts stated in this Statement of Truth are true
SIGNED by the above named
DATE
Bigballs
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