25 with no career prospects, feel like a waster
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EazyDuz said:
To top it off ive discussed it with my gf (who is moving away due to her grad job soon) and all she has done is told me that the social side of uni wears off, the workload is huge and very stressful (knew all this already, never said id be going for the social side other than a boost in confidence and self esteem).
I had also mentioned to her that i might travel which she took great offence to, as previously i was upset that she was moving a way herself, yet now i have the audacity to say i might go travelling for a few months in the hope that it makes me decide what i want in life.
Maybe its time to just accept that i'll never 'make it'. Dunno, a bit drunk currently after celebrating her 2.1 degree and career via a meal out with her family (the whole night just rubbed in my face how she is something and i have no quals to my name and no career, she's 22 and starting on 30 something grand)
You've had some pretty good advice on here which you seem to have completely dismissed. You need to get a grip and stop wallowing in self pity IMO.I had also mentioned to her that i might travel which she took great offence to, as previously i was upset that she was moving a way herself, yet now i have the audacity to say i might go travelling for a few months in the hope that it makes me decide what i want in life.
Maybe its time to just accept that i'll never 'make it'. Dunno, a bit drunk currently after celebrating her 2.1 degree and career via a meal out with her family (the whole night just rubbed in my face how she is something and i have no quals to my name and no career, she's 22 and starting on 30 something grand)
I'm not sure what you're looking for on here, but it clearly isn't advice. (Trolling maybe?)
EazyDuz said:
To top it off ive discussed it with my gf (who is moving away due to her grad job soon) and all she has done is told me that the social side of uni wears off, the workload is huge and very stressful (knew all this already, never said id be going for the social side other than a boost in confidence and self esteem).
I had also mentioned to her that i might travel which she took great offence to, as previously i was upset that she was moving a way herself, yet now i have the audacity to say i might go travelling for a few months in the hope that it makes me decide what i want in life.
Maybe its time to just accept that i'll never 'make it'. Dunno, a bit drunk currently after celebrating her 2.1 degree and career via a meal out with her family (the whole night just rubbed in my face how she is something and i have no quals to my name and no career, she's 22 and starting on 30 something grand)
Not often I say this but honest to god you need to take a look at yourself.I had also mentioned to her that i might travel which she took great offence to, as previously i was upset that she was moving a way herself, yet now i have the audacity to say i might go travelling for a few months in the hope that it makes me decide what i want in life.
Maybe its time to just accept that i'll never 'make it'. Dunno, a bit drunk currently after celebrating her 2.1 degree and career via a meal out with her family (the whole night just rubbed in my face how she is something and i have no quals to my name and no career, she's 22 and starting on 30 something grand)
You've asked and lot of people have given you some good advice and you seem to have ignored it all and done precisely nothing.
Life isn't handed to you on a plate, if you aren't happy with yourself you do have to get off your arse and do something about it.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said:EazyDuz said:
To top it off ive discussed it with my gf (who is moving away due to her grad job soon) and all she has done is told me that the social side of uni wears off, the workload is huge and very stressful (knew all this already, never said id be going for the social side other than a boost in confidence and self esteem).
I had also mentioned to her that i might travel which she took great offence to, as previously i was upset that she was moving a way herself, yet now i have the audacity to say i might go travelling for a few months in the hope that it makes me decide what i want in life.
Maybe its time to just accept that i'll never 'make it'. Dunno, a bit drunk currently after celebrating her 2.1 degree and career via a meal out with her family (the whole night just rubbed in my face how she is something and i have no quals to my name and no career, she's 22 and starting on 30 something grand)
Not often I say this but honest to god you need to take a look at yourself.I had also mentioned to her that i might travel which she took great offence to, as previously i was upset that she was moving a way herself, yet now i have the audacity to say i might go travelling for a few months in the hope that it makes me decide what i want in life.
Maybe its time to just accept that i'll never 'make it'. Dunno, a bit drunk currently after celebrating her 2.1 degree and career via a meal out with her family (the whole night just rubbed in my face how she is something and i have no quals to my name and no career, she's 22 and starting on 30 something grand)
You've asked and lot of people have given you some good advice and you seem to have ignored it all and done precisely nothing.
Life isn't handed to you on a plate, if you aren't happy with yourself you do have to get off your arse and do something about it.
However, there are glimmers of hope. That he can save money even when he's on a low income shows some resolve. And that he can get his backside to the gym three times a week shows some positive spirit too.
I thought that the suggestion of the Armed Forces was a good one, but then discounted it because of the 'doing as I'm told' thing. If he can pop that in a box and put it away, today's Forces offer some great opportunities. And his fitness will mean that he won't feel a failure during basic training. He could well shine, in fact!
OP: take a look at technical opportunities in the three Forces. If you sat through and passed A levels, you'll sprint past the cannon fodder roles.
Good luck
Hi there!
I'd like to share a little bit of what myself and other university/work colleagues have done, as I feel some of it is quite akin to your situation. I have not managed to read the entire thread so apologies if this is a bit off-track.
For myself, I have always wanted to be in engineering, with a focus on automotive or motorsport. I had to retake a year in college as a stuffed up my exams and ended up with a U in Maths and an E in Physics. Not great for a wannabe engineer! I redid these, and applied through UCAS to university. I thought I would be the oldest person on the course being (shock horror) 19 years old. When I started (University of Central Lancashire by the way), I found that there were at least 40% of the course at about 25 years and older. Most of which were I believe in a similar position to you, not much idea of what they wanted to do, and at the start, not much desire to achieve on the course. The ones who were incapable were quickly weeded out but the people who succeeded and continued were the chaps who kept at it and did not let up.
University, even at a "mature" age was great for all of us, allowed us to develop as people, and our opinions to be challenged on a daily basis. So the requirement of using your brain is definitely applicable there. The social side of course is a bonus and gives opportunity to join clubs of various interests. I became involved in the motorsport club, which raced Formula Fords in the Northern BRSCC championships and learnt so much through this. Both technically and personally. I also met my fiance on the same course, so I suppose I'm quite biased! The older individuals are currently doing well in a variety of automotive and engineering applications and have transformed a few individuals lives for the better.
I worked for a couple of motorsport teams through university, as a spanner monkey for extra cash and experience. I took an internship at a major Automotive OEM between the second and third years, and returned to the same company through their graduate scheme. I have completed that and am now a fully permanent employee, working as a project engineer. Whilst the grad schemes aren't perfect, and there is some stigma that needs to be fought, and not thought of as "Just a Grad", the rewards are worth it and are what you make of them. I would also say that what you learn academically can be slightly different to your day to day tasks. A lot of it is people and relationships, rather than bearing load calculations and drag coefficients! University can give you more than the academic skills to succeed, but it is hugely dependent on the person, something I had to realise in the first year.
Hope I could have been some help and if you want to PM, please do so!
I'd like to share a little bit of what myself and other university/work colleagues have done, as I feel some of it is quite akin to your situation. I have not managed to read the entire thread so apologies if this is a bit off-track.
For myself, I have always wanted to be in engineering, with a focus on automotive or motorsport. I had to retake a year in college as a stuffed up my exams and ended up with a U in Maths and an E in Physics. Not great for a wannabe engineer! I redid these, and applied through UCAS to university. I thought I would be the oldest person on the course being (shock horror) 19 years old. When I started (University of Central Lancashire by the way), I found that there were at least 40% of the course at about 25 years and older. Most of which were I believe in a similar position to you, not much idea of what they wanted to do, and at the start, not much desire to achieve on the course. The ones who were incapable were quickly weeded out but the people who succeeded and continued were the chaps who kept at it and did not let up.
University, even at a "mature" age was great for all of us, allowed us to develop as people, and our opinions to be challenged on a daily basis. So the requirement of using your brain is definitely applicable there. The social side of course is a bonus and gives opportunity to join clubs of various interests. I became involved in the motorsport club, which raced Formula Fords in the Northern BRSCC championships and learnt so much through this. Both technically and personally. I also met my fiance on the same course, so I suppose I'm quite biased! The older individuals are currently doing well in a variety of automotive and engineering applications and have transformed a few individuals lives for the better.
I worked for a couple of motorsport teams through university, as a spanner monkey for extra cash and experience. I took an internship at a major Automotive OEM between the second and third years, and returned to the same company through their graduate scheme. I have completed that and am now a fully permanent employee, working as a project engineer. Whilst the grad schemes aren't perfect, and there is some stigma that needs to be fought, and not thought of as "Just a Grad", the rewards are worth it and are what you make of them. I would also say that what you learn academically can be slightly different to your day to day tasks. A lot of it is people and relationships, rather than bearing load calculations and drag coefficients! University can give you more than the academic skills to succeed, but it is hugely dependent on the person, something I had to realise in the first year.
Hope I could have been some help and if you want to PM, please do so!
gkw90 said:
Also, stop worrying about the bloody money and quoting x amount all the time. It's good to get a hand on figures, but stop comparing yourself to others!
Quite.Starting on 30 grand isn't anything remarkable and I certainly would not see it as anything to fear in terms of you sorting yourself out.
Pull your finger out, or before you know it you can add 'single' to your list of woes.
CubanPete said:
Op, read
'Oh the places you'll go' By Dr Zeuss (seriously!)
Part of it is work hard and showing enthusiasm in everything you do. You can make most jobs into careers into a success. And don't expect it to happen straight away.
Good advice this. Just turning up to work everyday, listening to what the boss wants and then actually delivering it will move your career along. Just gotta get on the ladder to start somewhere and the take those opportunites to move along (and up) that come along every couple of years.'Oh the places you'll go' By Dr Zeuss (seriously!)
Part of it is work hard and showing enthusiasm in everything you do. You can make most jobs into careers into a success. And don't expect it to happen straight away.
Simples!
Have you actually asked your boss at the retail store if there are any other opportunities for you there? They could well suggest something if you're the kind of guy that turns up on time and works hard.
However, if your boss has nothing to offer or no intention of offering anything it's time to leave. No point banging your head against a wall every day waiting for something to change.
I sympathise with your situation, it's hard watching other people doing well when you feel like you're not. You need to stop beating yourself up that doesn't solve anything. Also ignore any jealousy you might be feeling for your gf. She probably thinks the world of you even if you don't of yourself.
Few points mentioned above about HE. You can do very well out of it but there's no guarantee. You're either a Uni person or you're not. You've either got to study a subject you absolutely love or have a definitive career mapped out afterwards or both. If you're going to uni with neither of those there's no point. Same with NHS jobs, crap pay for a 'nothing' job but very good progression and pay for a 'qualified' job.
Have you tried internet searches? 'Preferred job type' and 'your area' could bring up some interesting opportunities, and even if there are no jobs listed you think you can apply for you'll still find some food for thought.
What about being a lorry driver? I imagine it's an interesting skill to learn and then it's around £26k starting salary,
Or throw yourself into Optometry as you've mentioned.
Good luck.
However, if your boss has nothing to offer or no intention of offering anything it's time to leave. No point banging your head against a wall every day waiting for something to change.
I sympathise with your situation, it's hard watching other people doing well when you feel like you're not. You need to stop beating yourself up that doesn't solve anything. Also ignore any jealousy you might be feeling for your gf. She probably thinks the world of you even if you don't of yourself.
Few points mentioned above about HE. You can do very well out of it but there's no guarantee. You're either a Uni person or you're not. You've either got to study a subject you absolutely love or have a definitive career mapped out afterwards or both. If you're going to uni with neither of those there's no point. Same with NHS jobs, crap pay for a 'nothing' job but very good progression and pay for a 'qualified' job.
Have you tried internet searches? 'Preferred job type' and 'your area' could bring up some interesting opportunities, and even if there are no jobs listed you think you can apply for you'll still find some food for thought.
What about being a lorry driver? I imagine it's an interesting skill to learn and then it's around £26k starting salary,
Or throw yourself into Optometry as you've mentioned.
Good luck.
I was feeling the same as you are when I was 17-18 (or perhaps worse!), I'd quit my A levels and was working part time in a Superdrug (emasculating on a daily basis!) and thought there wasn't much hope of a decent job after all. I worked a few agency jobs which I also hated, until I moved away for a trainee job. It had got to the point where my self esteem was non existent and I had no self respect at all, so needed a big change.
Couldn't drive which made it more difficult, and only had the money to scrape a deposit for a room in a shared house which appeared to be full of Eastern European alcoholics,, but I really wanted to better myself. Fast forward 6 years and I'm earning 60k a year in a job I really enjoy and my life is completely different. It wasn't easy getting here and I had to really kick the 'poor me' attitude and get stuck in, and shine above the rest. Even if I wasn't feeling enthusiastic I would just pretend & play the game, take any responsibility or opportunity as it comes up.
My other half was sort of the same, she moved 100 miles to live with me and had nothing but some reasonably worthless animal care qualifications. She got agency work in retail and warehousing, which turned to permanent, which turned to management, and now at 22 she's earning 24k which is pretty good, and will only go up with hard work & enthusiasm. Obviously it helps if you enjoy what you do to some extent. Don't get me wrong, neither of us took the paths we have because we love the work with a passion, but there comes a time when you've just got to crack on and work with what you have, and use the money earned to do nice things outside of work.
You can make a good career without thousands of pounds of debt doing something you're not sure you actually want, I'm not saying uni is a bad idea, but why bother unless you have a clear goal - without experience a degree doesn't count for that much unless it's very specific.
EDIT:
You say you like cars but not keen on mechanics.. I happen to know of a Motorsport company in Leicestershire who take on trainees most years in the winter in a hands on job with decent prospects, not working in a garage but in an air conditioned room. It's not amazing by any stretch but plenty of overtime available to make the money fairly good (I earned 27k in my first year as a trainee), plenty of prospects after a few years to travel with work etc. If it sounds like the sort of thing that might suit you then drop me a PM and I'll send you the details of the company and what the work involves.
Couldn't drive which made it more difficult, and only had the money to scrape a deposit for a room in a shared house which appeared to be full of Eastern European alcoholics,, but I really wanted to better myself. Fast forward 6 years and I'm earning 60k a year in a job I really enjoy and my life is completely different. It wasn't easy getting here and I had to really kick the 'poor me' attitude and get stuck in, and shine above the rest. Even if I wasn't feeling enthusiastic I would just pretend & play the game, take any responsibility or opportunity as it comes up.
My other half was sort of the same, she moved 100 miles to live with me and had nothing but some reasonably worthless animal care qualifications. She got agency work in retail and warehousing, which turned to permanent, which turned to management, and now at 22 she's earning 24k which is pretty good, and will only go up with hard work & enthusiasm. Obviously it helps if you enjoy what you do to some extent. Don't get me wrong, neither of us took the paths we have because we love the work with a passion, but there comes a time when you've just got to crack on and work with what you have, and use the money earned to do nice things outside of work.
You can make a good career without thousands of pounds of debt doing something you're not sure you actually want, I'm not saying uni is a bad idea, but why bother unless you have a clear goal - without experience a degree doesn't count for that much unless it's very specific.
EDIT:
You say you like cars but not keen on mechanics.. I happen to know of a Motorsport company in Leicestershire who take on trainees most years in the winter in a hands on job with decent prospects, not working in a garage but in an air conditioned room. It's not amazing by any stretch but plenty of overtime available to make the money fairly good (I earned 27k in my first year as a trainee), plenty of prospects after a few years to travel with work etc. If it sounds like the sort of thing that might suit you then drop me a PM and I'll send you the details of the company and what the work involves.
Edited by CX53 on Monday 18th July 05:11
Can't believe a few people have suggested postman as a "career"... you have zero chance of career progression when taken on as a postie and have virtually no opportunity for even a sideways move to a different role within Royal Mail.
All new starters will be only offered temp contracts with minimal contracted hours and associated holiday pay, yet will be expected and pressurised to work over their time as and when required, if you aren't willing to do this you'll find you won't be getting your contract renewed.
It's extremely physically demanding work out in mostly always crap weather and the pay is barely higher than the proposed Living Wage.
The turnover rate for new starters is incredibly high, very few stick at it, believe me you're far better off staying in retail than becoming a postie.
All new starters will be only offered temp contracts with minimal contracted hours and associated holiday pay, yet will be expected and pressurised to work over their time as and when required, if you aren't willing to do this you'll find you won't be getting your contract renewed.
It's extremely physically demanding work out in mostly always crap weather and the pay is barely higher than the proposed Living Wage.
The turnover rate for new starters is incredibly high, very few stick at it, believe me you're far better off staying in retail than becoming a postie.
Edited by mike74 on Monday 18th July 09:05
CX53 said:
I was feeling the same as you are when I was 17-18 (or perhaps worse!), I'd quit my A levels and was working part time in a Superdrug (emasculating on a daily basis!) and thought there wasn't much hope of a decent job after all. I worked a few agency jobs which I also hated, until I moved away for a trainee job. It had got to the point where my self esteem was non existent and I had no self respect at all, so needed a big change.
Couldn't drive which made it more difficult, and only had the money to scrape a deposit for a room in a shared house which appeared to be full of Eastern European alcoholics,, but I really wanted to better myself. Fast forward 6 years and I'm earning 60k a year in a job I really enjoy and my life is completely different. It wasn't easy getting here and I had to really kick the 'poor me' attitude and get stuck in, and shine above the rest. Even if I wasn't feeling enthusiastic I would just pretend & play the game, take any responsibility or opportunity as it comes up.
My other half was sort of the same, she moved 100 miles to live with me and had nothing but some reasonably worthless animal care qualifications. She got agency work in retail and warehousing, which turned to permanent, which turned to management, and now at 22 she's earning 24k which is pretty good, and will only go up with hard work & enthusiasm. Obviously it helps if you enjoy what you do to some extent. Don't get me wrong, neither of us took the paths we have because we love the work with a passion, but there comes a time when you've just got to crack on and work with what you have, and use the money earned to do nice things outside of work.
You can make a good career without thousands of pounds of debt doing something you're not sure you actually want, I'm not saying uni is a bad idea, but why bother unless you have a clear goal - without experience a degree doesn't count for that much unless it's very specific.
EDIT:
You say you like cars but not keen on mechanics.. I happen to know of a Motorsport company in Leicestershire who take on trainees most years in the winter in a hands on job with decent prospects, not working in a garage but in an air conditioned room. It's not amazing by any stretch but plenty of overtime available to make the money fairly good (I earned 27k in my first year as a trainee), plenty of prospects after a few years to travel with work etc. If it sounds like the sort of thing that might suit you then drop me a PM and I'll send you the details of the company and what the work involves.
60k PAYE or contractor day rate with no pension?Couldn't drive which made it more difficult, and only had the money to scrape a deposit for a room in a shared house which appeared to be full of Eastern European alcoholics,, but I really wanted to better myself. Fast forward 6 years and I'm earning 60k a year in a job I really enjoy and my life is completely different. It wasn't easy getting here and I had to really kick the 'poor me' attitude and get stuck in, and shine above the rest. Even if I wasn't feeling enthusiastic I would just pretend & play the game, take any responsibility or opportunity as it comes up.
My other half was sort of the same, she moved 100 miles to live with me and had nothing but some reasonably worthless animal care qualifications. She got agency work in retail and warehousing, which turned to permanent, which turned to management, and now at 22 she's earning 24k which is pretty good, and will only go up with hard work & enthusiasm. Obviously it helps if you enjoy what you do to some extent. Don't get me wrong, neither of us took the paths we have because we love the work with a passion, but there comes a time when you've just got to crack on and work with what you have, and use the money earned to do nice things outside of work.
You can make a good career without thousands of pounds of debt doing something you're not sure you actually want, I'm not saying uni is a bad idea, but why bother unless you have a clear goal - without experience a degree doesn't count for that much unless it's very specific.
EDIT:
You say you like cars but not keen on mechanics.. I happen to know of a Motorsport company in Leicestershire who take on trainees most years in the winter in a hands on job with decent prospects, not working in a garage but in an air conditioned room. It's not amazing by any stretch but plenty of overtime available to make the money fairly good (I earned 27k in my first year as a trainee), plenty of prospects after a few years to travel with work etc. If it sounds like the sort of thing that might suit you then drop me a PM and I'll send you the details of the company and what the work involves.
Edited by CX53 on Monday 18th July 05:11
Not trying to knock you, well done.
johnwilliams77 said:
60k PAYE or contractor day rate with no pension?
Not trying to knock you, well done.
The money wasn't really what I was getting at, just that you can find a reasonable career with little or no education.Not trying to knock you, well done.
The permanent staff at work are on 50k + bonus, 8 weeks holiday and private health care and good pension. I'm an hourly paid contractor and after tax for the last couple of years I've done 60k with 4 weeks off each year. Not including VAT. I don't really like to do many hours to be fair + I'm only 24 so I couldn't really give a rats ass about a pension at the moment, I have a BTL property for that purpose.
johnwilliams77 said:
60k PAYE or contractor day rate with no pension?
Not trying to knock you, well done.
What does that matter anyway? I'm a contractor and with the increased earnings over the years it's enabled me to make provisions for the future by way of appreciating assets and property. PAYE isn't as stable as it used to be anyway. Not trying to knock you, well done.
The tax advantages of contracting also mean that 60k as a conny is more like earning 80k+ as a PAYE worker, so there isn't much to knock.
OP you're in an ideal situation to start a business/complete some courses to enable that. Enviable position to some people stuck in a boring job they hate!
johnwilliams77 said:
60k PAYE or contractor day rate with no pension?
Not trying to knock you, well done.
I don't think he was boasting, quite a good story really and proves that university isn't everything like so many people would have you believe these days. Not trying to knock you, well done.
I would think about some college courses in horticulture/tree surgery and set up self employed, but I've always liked the outdoors. There are lots of options, think outside the box.
Thanks for the further replies.
Had a bit of a break down last week, just lost it and explained all the problems to my gf, just felt worthless and stayed in bed while she graduated. Showed my face at the ceremony thing afterwards but really didn't want to be there.
I'm awaiting CBT sessions to help with all that. I've tried SSRI's in the past but they didnt make me feel good about things, just numb to the world which is no good.
I feel a bit better now though, but still lost. Spoke to parents about it. My mother said she was the same at a young age, then met my dad and together they created a very successful business. Unfortunately that business is a tiny company which only really needs one person to run it. I've worked there before on and off but it isn't something with much of a future left in it.
She thinks optometry would be a good idea. And i did too until someone on another forum posted a long list of reasons NOT to study optometry in a thread full of potential optometry students. I'll post it if anyone is interested and can back up the claims.
I also got a letter in the post inviting me for a Mechanical Engineering apprenticeship interview. It looks OK but you only get a BTEC level 3 qual after 3 years working at minimum wage. ME doesn't appeal to me either, i only applied to see what would happen, turns out it was good enough for an interview.
I've also emailed my optometrist who graduated in the 80's and takes on uni students for placements, so he might have a better idea of where that sector is going and if its worth going for.
I know what an ideal job would be for me, and that would be:
An OK wage, really anything over £25k would be fine
A good work/life balance, around 40 hours a week
A change of scenery every now and then. For example if it was in IT, i'd be going to customers houses to set up/repair equipment. Or even outdoor work, i much prefer the fresh air than being stuck inside. One of the reasons i got a motorbike licence for that sense of freedom you dont get from driving.
Social. Meeting new people or at least work with a team most of the time, isolated work isn't for me.
I also did a career drivers assessment test, the results were as follows, graded from most to least important to me:
Affiliation (Work relationships): 20/24
Meaning (Seeking to do things which are believed to be valuable for their own sake): 16/24
Job security: 16/24
Autonomy (independence, make own decisions): 14/24
Material rewards: 13/24
Social Status: 12/24
Creativity: 7/24
Power Influence (think management): 6/24
I'm still trying to figure out what kind of jobs fit that criteria.
Had a bit of a break down last week, just lost it and explained all the problems to my gf, just felt worthless and stayed in bed while she graduated. Showed my face at the ceremony thing afterwards but really didn't want to be there.
I'm awaiting CBT sessions to help with all that. I've tried SSRI's in the past but they didnt make me feel good about things, just numb to the world which is no good.
I feel a bit better now though, but still lost. Spoke to parents about it. My mother said she was the same at a young age, then met my dad and together they created a very successful business. Unfortunately that business is a tiny company which only really needs one person to run it. I've worked there before on and off but it isn't something with much of a future left in it.
She thinks optometry would be a good idea. And i did too until someone on another forum posted a long list of reasons NOT to study optometry in a thread full of potential optometry students. I'll post it if anyone is interested and can back up the claims.
I also got a letter in the post inviting me for a Mechanical Engineering apprenticeship interview. It looks OK but you only get a BTEC level 3 qual after 3 years working at minimum wage. ME doesn't appeal to me either, i only applied to see what would happen, turns out it was good enough for an interview.
I've also emailed my optometrist who graduated in the 80's and takes on uni students for placements, so he might have a better idea of where that sector is going and if its worth going for.
I know what an ideal job would be for me, and that would be:
An OK wage, really anything over £25k would be fine
A good work/life balance, around 40 hours a week
A change of scenery every now and then. For example if it was in IT, i'd be going to customers houses to set up/repair equipment. Or even outdoor work, i much prefer the fresh air than being stuck inside. One of the reasons i got a motorbike licence for that sense of freedom you dont get from driving.
Social. Meeting new people or at least work with a team most of the time, isolated work isn't for me.
I also did a career drivers assessment test, the results were as follows, graded from most to least important to me:
Affiliation (Work relationships): 20/24
Meaning (Seeking to do things which are believed to be valuable for their own sake): 16/24
Job security: 16/24
Autonomy (independence, make own decisions): 14/24
Material rewards: 13/24
Social Status: 12/24
Creativity: 7/24
Power Influence (think management): 6/24
I'm still trying to figure out what kind of jobs fit that criteria.
I think if you try and define things as fine detailed as you are, you'll miss out on other opportunties. The right job doesnt need to be perfect in all aspects, only hit enough that you dont acrea about the bits that arent right.
It's a bit like dating really. If you hold impossibly high standards you'll be forever wking and weeping while others are moving on with their lives and you'll just tell yourself no-one less than Kate Upton in all her photoshopped glory would do while pointing out all the flaws in any other girl as reasons why you couldnt ever even consider it
It's a bit like dating really. If you hold impossibly high standards you'll be forever w
king and weeping while others are moving on with their lives and you'll just tell yourself no-one less than Kate Upton in all her photoshopped glory would do while pointing out all the flaws in any other girl as reasons why you couldnt ever even consider it Have a look here and decide if you think that wage is realistic. That is a good graduate starting salary.
http://www.salarygraph.co.uk/
To be paid above average you have to show a skill or be prepared to work very hard, or be very lucky.
Los of suggestions have been made, but you are going to have to do the work; both in terms of going out and getting a job, and working hard to keep it.
http://www.salarygraph.co.uk/
To be paid above average you have to show a skill or be prepared to work very hard, or be very lucky.
Los of suggestions have been made, but you are going to have to do the work; both in terms of going out and getting a job, and working hard to keep it.
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