Changing jobs for a pay cut?

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Ray Singh

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3,048 posts

230 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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This time last year i was working in the civil service. I had a decent job, which i enjoyed, but felt that the pace of life in the civil service was a bit slow. I was scared that I would become used to this pace of life and corporate companies would not employ me.

I was offered a job at a Corporate within the banking industry for a considerable wage increase (£10k) and the package included private healthcare etc. However, a few weeks into the job, and I realised that all that glittered, wasnt golden. I have suffered bullying and harasment, victimisation and encountered all manner of mis management and generally working with absolute 'tools'. I have been to councilling sessions to learn how to cope with micro management and the stresses of working in the new role.

I have been offered an interview back at my old place in the civil service. It would be back to my old wages (so essentially a £10k - £12k pay cut) and loss of private healthcare etc.

My question is - do i go? I have a family, mortgage and bills to pay - will i always regret going back?

I appreciate that this is a personal decission, but any guidance would be appreciated.

Foliage

3,861 posts

122 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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I would,

Tonsko

6,299 posts

215 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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Me too. Have done so in the past too.

edc

9,235 posts

251 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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So you will move from one job you don't like to one you left because you didn't like it? You've made the decision to leave and clearly have skills and experience that can secure you another role. Get some more interviews under your belt and try to find something that suits you better.

RizzoTheRat

25,162 posts

192 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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Depends if you think £10k is worth the extra stress.

Agree it's worth looking around at what else is out there too. Depending on what your role in the civil service was, but a lot of formerly civil service tasks are contracted out to private companies these days, and there's a lot of jobs out there for ex civil servants. I left civil service many years ago to work for a private company for a decent pay rise, and have since done loads of work for the successor of the agency I left (albeit a different department), both as extramural projects and as manpower substitution sitting at one of their desks.

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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Ray Singh said:
This time last year i was working in the civil service. I had a decent job, which i enjoyed, but felt that the pace of life in the civil service was a bit slow. I was scared that I would become used to this pace of life and corporate companies would not employ me.

I was offered a job at a Corporate within the banking industry for a considerable wage increase (£10k) and the package included private healthcare etc. However, a few weeks into the job, and I realised that all that glittered, wasnt golden. I have suffered bullying and harasment, victimisation and encountered all manner of mis management and generally working with absolute 'tools'. I have been to councilling sessions to learn how to cope with micro management and the stresses of working in the new role.

I have been offered an interview back at my old place in the civil service. It would be back to my old wages (so essentially a £10k - £12k pay cut) and loss of private healthcare etc.

My question is - do i go? I have a family, mortgage and bills to pay - will i always regret going back?

I appreciate that this is a personal decission, but any guidance would be appreciated.
Presumably you would be back in the defined benefit pension scheme, worth around 30% of your salary?

Terminator X

15,072 posts

204 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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edc said:
So you will move from one job you don't like to one you left because you didn't like it? You've made the decision to leave and clearly have skills and experience that can secure you another role. Get some more interviews under your belt and try to find something that suits you better.
This. Personally I'd not go back to a job I left in the past, must have been reasons for leaving and why would that have changed? Get a similar job somewhere else.

TX.

stuno1

1,318 posts

195 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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Do it! Life is about so much more than money. If you can live comfortably on that wage go format. Be healthy, enjoy your job and enjoy life again.

ReallyReallyGood

1,622 posts

130 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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As above, I'd not rule out all private-sector employers due to a bad experience at one. Look at smaller companies perhaps, but going back to the place you left may bring its own issues.

AyBee

10,533 posts

202 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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I'm not convinced I'd have moved in the first place for only £10k given the hours usually associated with banking and I'd definitely be very tempted to go back given only a £10k reduction.

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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AyBee said:
I'm not convinced I'd have moved in the first place for only £10k given the hours usually associated with banking and I'd definitely be very tempted to go back given only a £10k reduction.
As above, I doubt the difference is anywhere near £10k when ALL benefits are taken into account.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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Just take a step back.

Bullying, harassment, victimisation - all within the first few weeks.

Are you sure this just isn't a period of feeling a little on the outside? - It's relatively common to have a period where you feel completely out of place in a new job... but if you stick with it, mostly it falls into place as time goes on.

I hated my job for a while - didn't understand the people, the culture, felt on the outside, felt like I wasn't accepted - but now I couldn't be happier.

shtu

3,454 posts

146 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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How long have you got to decide?

Now that you are in a commercial sector company, it's relatively easier to move to one of your current employer's competitors.

A move from Public -> Commercial -> Public will look, to a certain type, as "couldn't cut it". (no suggestion that's the case from me)

If it's finance sector or similar, bear in mind that July is bonus time, traditional time for people to be moving jobs, so there may be some opening around at the end of the month.

shirt

22,555 posts

201 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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have you spoken to the hiring manager and/or HR about the issues in the new job?

i wouldn't go back to the old job. stick this out until you can go back with more seniority and pay.

Blanchimont

4,076 posts

122 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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If you were happy at the old job, and knew you would slot back in with little issues, I'd take it.

Life's to short to be stuck in a st job and hating it, but you earn more money. Yes 10k a year is a lot of money, but you managed before, and your health is more important than any paychecque.

Jasandjules

69,885 posts

229 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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This is a rhetorical question surely?

Your health is worth far more than 10k wages.

mike9009

7,005 posts

243 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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I would go back too. If the civil service was a 'little' slow, maybe try speaking to your manager for greater workload - or alternatively look for fast paced strain outside the work environment to satisfy that need.....

Mike

Pazuzu

435 posts

236 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Also depends if £10k is 10% or 30% of your wage as to how easy it will be to take the cut.

Sounds like the stress is not worth the hassle in this particular instance though.

Phil

was8v

1,937 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Quality of life is worth much more than £10k.

In fact its not £10k, after tax it might be £6k.

When you are offered the new job, do your best to close that gap.

creampuff

6,511 posts

143 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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I'd take the cash where it is available. If you get bullied, then large companies have established procedures, that is the benefit of a large company. Tell the bullies to fk off or you will report them to HR.

If that doesn't work out then change to an entirely different job and look for a pay rise while you are at it. Always look for a pay rise.