Who works from home?

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sidekickdmr

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5,075 posts

206 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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Evening!

So in a year or so I am looking for a drastic change of lifestyle and we are starting up a business in the countryside.

Rather than quitting my job and going cold turkey, or getting a local job on min wage I thought I'd see if there was any avenue to do a job that works from home.

The issue is, despite being quite senior in my field, and self employed as a contractor, due to customers banking details and DPA reasons we can't work from home, the job is completely flexible in every other way, but this is just the nature of the sector.

So I thought I would ask, the people that work from home, what sector are you in? Could someone with financial risk and compliance background integrate into your sector and land a job with flexible working?

I'd be happy to come into the office once a week, or whenever needed.

Before financial services I was sales based, used to run a team (as well as actually do the job) of Senior IT recruitment consultants.

I don't have any professional qualifications, nor do I have any vast knowledge of IT.

Any hope for me?

Thanks for your time and input.

Doofus

25,784 posts

173 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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So you're looking for a job with which you can work, unsupervised, from home, and therefore spend increasing amounts of time working on your own project? And then, in a year or so, you're going to quit anyway?

Ahm oot. wink



PS: I have nothing constructive to add, sorry...

sidekickdmr

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5,075 posts

206 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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I will still have Monday-Friday free and could easily designate 37 1/2 hours to the job.

So don't really see it being an issue, like I said above its that or get a job somewhere local, so I have the time.

Du1point8

21,606 posts

192 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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Working from home... been there done that in the Financial Services industry, did so for the better part of a year.

Im Senior IT consultant and was for a large bank, hell I used to do it with Investment banks too.

No issue with DPA, etc...

In fact I do WFH every now and again when as Im currently in a different country to the office Im working for.

Does that help?

It was very boring I might add... If it were not for friends or SWMBO I would probably go days without the need to see people.

AB

16,975 posts

195 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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If you're good at sales, work for me on a commission only basis?

Loads of money to be made, you can work from wherever you like and do whatever you want.


sidekickdmr

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5,075 posts

206 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Du1point8 said:
Working from home... been there done that in the Financial Services industry, did so for the better part of a year.

Im Senior IT consultant and was for a large bank, hell I used to do it with Investment banks too.

No issue with DPA, etc...

In fact I do WFH every now and again when as Im currently in a different country to the office Im working for.

Does that help?

It was very boring I might add... If it were not for friends or SWMBO I would probably go days without the need to see people.
I’ve been contracting for the last 9 or so years on about 7 different contracts and none of them have supported WFH, so in my current line of work its not an option, might not be down to the DPA, I’m sure you could sort out a encrypted connection, but they just don’t support it.

AB said:
If you're good at sales, work for me on a commission only basis?

Loads of money to be made, you can work from wherever you like and do whatever you want.
Sounds interesting, you have a PM, thank you

Du1point8

21,606 posts

192 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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sidekickdmr said:
Du1point8 said:
Working from home... been there done that in the Financial Services industry, did so for the better part of a year.

Im Senior IT consultant and was for a large bank, hell I used to do it with Investment banks too.

No issue with DPA, etc...

In fact I do WFH every now and again when as Im currently in a different country to the office Im working for.

Does that help?

It was very boring I might add... If it were not for friends or SWMBO I would probably go days without the need to see people.
I’ve been contracting for the last 9 or so years on about 7 different contracts and none of them have supported WFH, so in my current line of work its not an option, might not be down to the DPA, I’m sure you could sort out a encrypted connection, but they just don’t support it.

AB said:
If you're good at sales, work for me on a commission only basis?

Loads of money to be made, you can work from wherever you like and do whatever you want.
Sounds interesting, you have a PM, thank you
really?

2 ways and both have been utilised by every bank I have worked at.

1) Bank Laptop and VPN into network, same as being in the office.
2) SecurID with your own computer and portal

https://www.rsa.com/en-us/products-services/identi...

Both easy and both not difficult to do.

towser44

3,490 posts

115 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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I work from home full time and have done since February 2014 in Compliance for a Financial Services company. I do occasionally go to our Head Office to meet with my Line Manager and another member of staff, who both work from home also. I went to the Office on Friday last week and that was the first time in 3 months. As posted above, if it wasn't for the daughter and OH I could go days without speaking to anyone, so much so that you end up going to the shop and having a splurge of conversation with the cashier!

It can be hard sometimes to maintain the self-discipline and other non-working from home colleagues think it is a big holiday. But there is only me who does my role, so there's no hiding place for not doing the work. In all honesty they probably get more out of me this way than they would if I was Office based, as I'm logged on for 8-8.30am and leave the laptop on until 10pm and will periodically reply to emails should anything drop in. If I was Office based I would be strict 9-5 with having the 1 - 1 and half hour commute each way.

My biggest concern is if/when I need to find alternative employment, because if it is Office based it will be a huge adjustment!

andy-xr

13,204 posts

204 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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The issue with working from home is around compliance and security of the end point. For example, while you might say you'll never ever let your 4 year old surf for downloads on your laptop that contains some of my banking information, that might not be the same for some other Herbert who leaves his laptop open and unlocked on a train while he nips 2 carriages down for a bacon butty.

Since many banking/finance institutions run their own servers that hold information, they dont tend to put the real important stuff in the cloud. It's sat on old machines that are racked somewhere. It's more secure if you limit access to these, ideally from inside your own network. Opening up the network and blurring the lines on where it starts and ends is a risk that needs a lot of resource to manage, so often it's easier not to bother with it.

Working remotely is an option for many people (I do it and have done since 2003) but there's still the issue with many managers that they cant get past, if they cant see you, they think you're watching Trisha in your pants on the sofa and waiting for the phone to ring.

Generally tech companies are more open to remote working from what I've found. Or a field based role in other industries where you're expected to be out and about rather than sitting together and flying your desk (but that's not working from home, that's working remotely from somewhere)

I've always had the problem of remote working when I've needed to change jobs, mainly because there arent many jobs in my local town or easily commutable, so I tend to pick companies in an industry I'm familiar with (IT) and who need a remote guy to do stuff. It cuts out a lot of other options, but I dont want to move and I'm happy that I've got less options as a trade off for living closer to my fmaily

sidekickdmr

Original Poster:

5,075 posts

206 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Du1point8 said:
really?

2 ways and both have been utilised by every bank I have worked at.

1) Bank Laptop and VPN into network, same as being in the office.
2) SecurID with your own computer and portal

https://www.rsa.com/en-us/products-services/identi...

Both easy and both not difficult to do.
Yes really

What’s even stranger is I’m already laptop/mobile phone based and can work from any site, at any time, but it has to be a group site and not a coffee shop/home.

I’ve looked into it and they just won’t budge unfortunately. It’s not that they “cant” it’s that they “wont”.

wiggy001

6,545 posts

271 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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sidekickdmr said:
Du1point8 said:
really?

2 ways and both have been utilised by every bank I have worked at.

1) Bank Laptop and VPN into network, same as being in the office.
2) SecurID with your own computer and portal

https://www.rsa.com/en-us/products-services/identi...

Both easy and both not difficult to do.
Yes really

What’s even stranger is I’m already laptop/mobile phone based and can work from any site, at any time, but it has to be a group site and not a coffee shop/home.

I’ve looked into it and they just won’t budge unfortunately. It’s not that they “cant” it’s that they “wont”.
The point Du1point8 is possibly making, and one I would support, is that it's not the financial industry that "won't", just your current employers. I'm an IT Consultant and my current client is a multinational bank. I've been to their offices in London once (to collect my laptop).

Du1point8

21,606 posts

192 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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wiggy001 said:
sidekickdmr said:
Du1point8 said:
really?

2 ways and both have been utilised by every bank I have worked at.

1) Bank Laptop and VPN into network, same as being in the office.
2) SecurID with your own computer and portal

https://www.rsa.com/en-us/products-services/identi...

Both easy and both not difficult to do.
Yes really

What’s even stranger is I’m already laptop/mobile phone based and can work from any site, at any time, but it has to be a group site and not a coffee shop/home.

I’ve looked into it and they just won’t budge unfortunately. It’s not that they “cant” it’s that they “wont”.
The point Du1point8 is possibly making, and one I would support, is that it's not the financial industry that "won't", just your current employers. I'm an IT Consultant and my current client is a multinational bank. I've been to their offices in London once (to collect my laptop).
Yep this... strange that yours won't shift... My previous (5x tier 1 banks) and 2x APAC banks (probably tier 3) don't care as long as I work.

Worked many time in a coffee house, sometimes in the sun, sometimes at the airport waiting to board a flight, long as the have wifi.

feef

5,206 posts

183 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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I'm a database consultant/contractor and work from wherever I have an internet connection, and that sometimes happens to be home

One of my biggest clients is an online payment processor and working directly with the databases that handle the card data it doesn't need said that PCI and ISO security requirements are a big deal.

I have a laptop supplied by them which I use exclusively for work for them, VPN access and an RSA secure token.

I pop into their offices maybe a couple of times a week for a few hours for face-to-face meetings and that's about it.

So as others have said, I can't think of any specific limits that would prevent you from working remotely in your line of work.

For many of the security requirements, it's not that it's written "you must not let people connect in from outside", more that the company is required to do a risk assessment on that sort of access and decide if it's an issue or not. It's more about mitigating their risk and exposure than setting a set of hard and fast industry rules. It sounds like your place have just said "no" rather than actually investigating, implementing and enforcing policies to make it viable.

sidekickdmr

Original Poster:

5,075 posts

206 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Du1point8 said:
wiggy001 said:
sidekickdmr said:
Du1point8 said:
really?

2 ways and both have been utilised by every bank I have worked at.

1) Bank Laptop and VPN into network, same as being in the office.
2) SecurID with your own computer and portal

https://www.rsa.com/en-us/products-services/identi...

Both easy and both not difficult to do.
Yes really

What’s even stranger is I’m already laptop/mobile phone based and can work from any site, at any time, but it has to be a group site and not a coffee shop/home.

I’ve looked into it and they just won’t budge unfortunately. It’s not that they “cant” it’s that they “wont”.
The point Du1point8 is possibly making, and one I would support, is that it's not the financial industry that "won't", just your current employers. I'm an IT Consultant and my current client is a multinational bank. I've been to their offices in London once (to collect my laptop).
Yep this... strange that yours won't shift... My previous (5x tier 1 banks) and 2x APAC banks (probably tier 3) don't care as long as I work.

Worked many time in a coffee house, sometimes in the sun, sometimes at the airport waiting to board a flight, long as the have wifi.
Yes ok point taken, I know other departments of the same bank can work from home, so perhaps me saying the "sector" wouldn’t allow it was not true, rather the "project".

Anyway, back to the question, I'm happy to take a sizable pay-cut, and I'm open minded, just want something flexible that can keep me occupied Mon-Fri and pay some bills, any more suggestions?

And don’t suggest herbalife/juice plus laugh

AB

16,975 posts

195 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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sidekickdmr said:
Sounds interesting, you have a PM, thank you
Shall reply in min

Efbe

9,251 posts

166 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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sidekickdmr said:
Yes ok point taken, I know other departments of the same bank can work from home, so perhaps me saying the "sector" wouldn’t allow it was not true, rather the "project".

Anyway, back to the question, I'm happy to take a sizable pay-cut, and I'm open minded, just want something flexible that can keep me occupied Mon-Fri and pay some bills, any more suggestions?

And don’t suggest herbalife/juice plus laugh
look for a different job in the bank.

I have previously had access to *everything* in the data warehouse, and was able to work from home.

Also to note, I did know of a guy that worked from upstairs in a branch for a period of time.

SwissJonese

1,393 posts

175 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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I have been working from home for the last 4 years. I work as a computer coder, it works very well for both me and my employer. The company I work for has offices/staff/servers all over the world, and I need to be available due to different time zones. They like the fact that I am almost always available, I have all the tools I need at home (PC with all my software) and VPN allows me to connect to anywhere in the company. So if I work late in the night fixing something in New York, then I start a bit later the next morning or take time off in the day, very much flexi working.

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

173 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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AB said:
If you're good at sales, work for me on a commission only basis?

Loads of money to be made, you can work from wherever you like and do whatever you want.
What is loads? Is the commission rates capped?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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I work from home running a consultancy/design agency business as well as contracting on the side.

If the work is for a Finance/Banking/Compliance type company they usually send me a laptop to work from, with the usual multiple logins and security key, VPN and substandard software. I know we don't have Photoshop but we do have Ms Paint!

I tend to work harder at home and for longer hours, as I don't have the interference and faff, I would get in a office..

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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I work from home 80% of the time.

I work in IT.

These days with VPNs, 2FA and Terminal servers there's absolutely no reason why you can't do any job remotely, really.
The "its not secure" argument is bks. Aside from actually storing peoples credit card data on a random PC in your study.

I like working at home as the nature of my job is sometimes it is fairly quiet, other times it is absolutely flat out.
So I have time to do other things while still being available if the need is. Otherwise I am very well behaved and if I have stuff I need to do, it gets done.
I have had days where I've been Working from home and not even had chance to walk to Sainsburys (literally 2 minute walk) and other days I have done nothing but sit in the garden with the dogs.

Swings and roundabouts.