Totally lost 'career wise' in my life.... Education or job?

Totally lost 'career wise' in my life.... Education or job?

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Leicesterdave

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2,282 posts

180 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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GetCarter said:
Good luck which ever way you go.
Thanks- appreciate it!

sparkythecat

7,903 posts

255 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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The OP now in his 30s is only now thinking about making a choice that most of us made in our teens. What have you been doing for the past decade?

Leicesterdave

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180 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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sparkythecat said:
The OP now in his 30s is only now thinking about making a choice that most of us made in our teens. What have you been doing for the past decade?
I was ill. Not all of us are blessed with perfection.

sparkythecat

7,903 posts

255 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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Sorry to hear youve been ill OP and pleased to hear that your better now.
Running your own business takes a lot of energy, enthusiasm, self discipline and self motivation. It's definitely not for everyone, and without these qualities, your business is unlikely to be the success that you hope for.
For that reason, I'd suggest taking a paid job in catering and getting some proper work experience in the field, to see if you really enjoy that sort of work.
Without enjoyment, it will be impossible to muster up either the energy,enthusiasm or motivation required.
And whilst you're gaining experience in the catering trade, and drawing a wage, you could also continue your studies either on a part time, and/or a distance learning basis. That way you'd have something to fall back on if you decide, on having properly experienced it, that the catering trade isn't really for you.
In any event, good luck

Crush

15,077 posts

169 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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You thought of running a pub or restaurant?

NRS

22,183 posts

201 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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Leicesterdave said:
GetCarter said:
I'm sure I'm not of much use to you here, but I would like to add that some of the bell ends that didn't turn up whilst I was at Uni (and they were serious bell ends) went on to become company directors and multi millionaires.

I could name them, but I'd end up in court.

Most teenagers are bell ends!
Agreed but it doesn't help much having presentations with very few turning up. The experience is pretty dire as they really appear to have no motivation whatsoever... I've not got back into education for that sort of experience. Getting too old for that crap!
I think it depends what you are doing and which year it is though. Certainly not all courses are like that. First year or two (in Scotland) has a lot of people who are doing different courses to their main degree to get enough credits - so they are often not that bothered. There's also a lot of people going crazy due to the first time with freedom, and they also haven't realised the value of money since it's being provided by parents. By 2nd/3rd year generally it's people wanting to do that degree, and a lot of the lazy people/ ones who went to uni just to do something have dropped out or quit. Then there is more focus. When I went on to my MSc at Imperial College it was just crazy. A lot of the time it was turning up at 9, having lectures until 12, 2 hours for lunch but mostly doing project work, then 3 hours of classes in the afternoon, get dinner and then work until 10. Then often working a lot of the weekend too. This was for geology.

If you don't enjoy the degree you are doing I'd recommend dropping it - but more based on subject rather than people around you. If you don't enjoy the subject then there's no point in working 5 days a week just to enjoy the other 2 days. I'm lucky enough/ worked hard that I generally enjoy my job and so am paid to enjoy 5 days. Now I have been doing it 6 years I get a bit bored if it is too quiet, but for the most part it is a good challenge.

If you enjoy the market is it that you enjoy interacting with people? If so what kind of jobs would involve that, and what is the demand for that type of job/ pay? Then try for those types of jobs, or perhaps go to uni again to do that type of course.

From what you said the market might be difficult to live on. As someone said earlier, don't both stop working. Depending where the market is you could struggle to make as much money as you do at the weekend during the week days. Also is that £600 a one off, related to the best day of the week, how much is actual profit etc? Generally people won't talk about failures so you're likely to be seeing a "positive" spin on the numbers.

It sounds like the question might not be so much about being your own boss, but finding something you enjoy that you can live on. I'd recommend this first, then work out if you can do it as a start up company or not.


Leicester Loyal

4,550 posts

122 months

Thursday 21st July 2016
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Crush said:
University is the same in whatever you study. At least your partner has studied something worthwhile that is relevant to a career. Most courses only offer an overly expensive opening to education on the job.

Personally I found university a waste of time as apart from keeping a few lecturers and admin staff in a job, it didn't seem to offer much to me. I learned a trade instead and I was far happier studying something that had an end goal.

On the other hand my sister is a speech pathologist and her university course was needed for her career. Another friend used his degree in photography to stack shelves in super drug but still reckons his course was worthwhile hehe

I think people make the mistake of thinking university will give them a job but really you need to decide on the job / career you want first. I definitely made that error as my school was not interested in my progression, only their 'students to university' ratio.
This sums it up better than I ever could.

All colleges drum into you is how great university is, but there's that many people going that end up not using their degree at all.

NRS

22,183 posts

201 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Leicester Loyal said:
Crush said:
University is the same in whatever you study. At least your partner has studied something worthwhile that is relevant to a career. Most courses only offer an overly expensive opening to education on the job.

Personally I found university a waste of time as apart from keeping a few lecturers and admin staff in a job, it didn't seem to offer much to me. I learned a trade instead and I was far happier studying something that had an end goal.

On the other hand my sister is a speech pathologist and her university course was needed for her career. Another friend used his degree in photography to stack shelves in super drug but still reckons his course was worthwhile hehe

I think people make the mistake of thinking university will give them a job but really you need to decide on the job / career you want first. I definitely made that error as my school was not interested in my progression, only their 'students to university' ratio.
This sums it up better than I ever could.

All colleges drum into you is how great university is, but there's that many people going that end up not using their degree at all.
I disagree that "most" courses are like this. It very much depends on your job, and most offer a lot of knowledge that you will use throughout your career. It's about studying the right subject, not going to a university because it has a random course. Case in point the photographer - photography doesn't need a university course, and it's also hard to become pro due to all the competition so I'd say that is a waste of time. It's then the people who are choosing the courses that are doing the wrong thing, since they don't have to do this approach.

Leicesterdave

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2,282 posts

180 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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The course is social work.

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Crush said:
You thought of running a pub or restaurant?
Without serious experience this is the one way to lose all of your money.

My cousin won a michelin star while head chef at a restaurant and even he didnt do amazingly for a few years after opening his own place.

burritoNinja

690 posts

100 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Like you I started my degree at 30. In computer science. My biggest problem is experience it seems. Very hard to get an entry level role. Though this is mainly software engineering roles I am talking about. I have programming experience with web development but vast amount of employers are asking for .NET and C++ with a few frameworks and platforms that I don't have working experience with. Currently working on .NET to get up to speed and joined local user groups for these languages. I feel to an extent I wasted years in UX/Web Design. But one major benefit of my degree that seems to be helping is project management skills. They have came across as the most impressive to potential employers. I have one year left of studies and I feel that the project side is going to be my main focus.

burritoNinja

690 posts

100 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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anonymous said:
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I've been wanting to break into InfoSec so my web background is not as relevant. During interviews for Infosec companies, it was stated that having strong skills in the likes of HTML5,CSS,JS,PHP and my working with databases and being pretty fluent with SQL etc was great to have and they need that, they stated they want higher skillset such as C and .NET and indepth networking (lot of server, W/LAN work), one of the reasons I got the interview was due to my CCNA and my certification in security. It is those languages where I am currently lacking. They want somebody who can hit the ground running.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy design. I loved it during college and been doing it for near 10 years. It has changed so much in those 10 years. They were still teaching using HTML Frames for layout. The big web 2.0 era lol.

EazyDuz

2,013 posts

108 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Take my advice with a pinch of salt as i have my own thread with the same problems, i'm younger at 25 and seriously considering uni myself.
Not some mickey mouse course though like psychology, art or humanities. Since you're a year in you might be able to switch to another course if you cant see a future in your current one, one with a decent chance of employment as soon as you graduate. Such as:

Business and marketing (there will be modules on self employment, you do placements and most grad schemes at the end accept business degrees)

Physiotherapy/Pharmacy/Audiology/Basically anything health related in the NHS

Mech engineering/electronic engineering

Or if you don't want to spend your life in an office, what about an outdoorsy one like land management. A guy i know is studying forestry and wants to be a ranger in a national park