Tyre pressure - comfort or speed?
Discussion
I upped the tyre pressures on my road bike (700 x 25) from around 85 to 95 psi at the weekend and after 2 rides of under 90 minutes my hands felt like they had been using a hammer drill. The roads around Bracknell are pretty appalling but I was surprised at the difference it made. What pressures do others run and are the performance gains from higher pressures that noticeable? I'm not sure I could tell but interested in more experienced views.
Have ridden for longer than I care to remember and in the last few years have backed off the pressure on best bike running 25mm from 110+ to 90 PSI with no noticeable difference in speed, but lots more comfort, and have new commuter/foul weather bike running 28mm tyres at 70 PSI which rides like a limousine
I also wear decent gloves, but not necessarily heavily padded, and use cyclocross bar tape for extra comfort - the roads here are rubbish
I also wear decent gloves, but not necessarily heavily padded, and use cyclocross bar tape for extra comfort - the roads here are rubbish
Interestingly this was just covered on GCN...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEBXg9-GvZU
Although, since I started cycling (3 years ago) I've been running 110psi on road bikes. It seems I've been going too high!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEBXg9-GvZU
Although, since I started cycling (3 years ago) I've been running 110psi on road bikes. It seems I've been going too high!
25mm tyres, I'm 76kg
100 front
110 rear
Nothing to do with speed, all about preventing pinch flats. Never have any problems, even after 6 or 7 hours on the bike.
I have unremarkable bar tape (currently being swapped for Lizards Skins but only because I'm redoing my brake cables) and nondescript gloves with minimal padding, but my bike is steel so I guess may take a bit of the fizz out of proceedings.
100 front
110 rear
Nothing to do with speed, all about preventing pinch flats. Never have any problems, even after 6 or 7 hours on the bike.
I have unremarkable bar tape (currently being swapped for Lizards Skins but only because I'm redoing my brake cables) and nondescript gloves with minimal padding, but my bike is steel so I guess may take a bit of the fizz out of proceedings.
gl20 said:
Still new to all this and have been religiously checking psi before each ride and going for around 110. I'm on 25mm and about 70kg. The firm ride doesn't bother me that much but was more concerned about pinch punctures. How low can/should you go without that being a problem?
It depends on your weight. I would not go below 95 on 23mm tires or 90 on 25s, and I am about 77 kg. Usually go with 110 on everything for simplicity's sake, and I don't want to check them every day. Front should be a little lower than rear.There was an interesting article on Jan Heine's blog about tyre pressures a while back:
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2016/03/09/tire-pre...
I run wider tyres on my road bike, 38c's, and I followed the advice in his blog and ended up running 45psi front and rear. It was much more comfortable with no noticeable drop in speed compared to running the tyres with 60 or 70 psi in them.
The only issue is the possibility of snakebite punctures with lower pressures but I've not had any issues with this so far.
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2016/03/09/tire-pre...
I run wider tyres on my road bike, 38c's, and I followed the advice in his blog and ended up running 45psi front and rear. It was much more comfortable with no noticeable drop in speed compared to running the tyres with 60 or 70 psi in them.
The only issue is the possibility of snakebite punctures with lower pressures but I've not had any issues with this so far.
scherzkeks said:
gl20 said:
Still new to all this and have been religiously checking psi before each ride and going for around 110. I'm on 25mm and about 70kg. The firm ride doesn't bother me that much but was more concerned about pinch punctures. How low can/should you go without that being a problem?
It depends on your weight. I would not go below 95 on 23mm tires or 90 on 25s, and I am about 77 kg. Usually go with 110 on everything for simplicity's sake, and I don't want to check them every day. Front should be a little lower than rear.You should be OK with them a wee bit softer even.
I was just now out in my garage checking my bike over after a century yesterday. Upon connecting up the pump I found the pressures were...
70f - 80r
I hadn't checked the pressures before riding yesterday (other than with my thumb ). Normally I go for 85f - 95r, but today I've nudged them up to 90f - 100r. No reason, really, other than to see if it feels any less comfortable with the higher pressures I think we all used to run.
The tyres are Schwalbe Ultremo 23c with "whatever's cheap when I need some" innertubes. I was last weighed nearly a year ago, but I don't think much has changed. I was 74.2kg then.
The only time I've had a pinch flat on road tyres so far was when I tried to go "gravel racing", chasing after an elusive KOM. 25mph+ over big stones and potholes, and a double pinch flat was the result.
I was just now out in my garage checking my bike over after a century yesterday. Upon connecting up the pump I found the pressures were...
70f - 80r
I hadn't checked the pressures before riding yesterday (other than with my thumb ). Normally I go for 85f - 95r, but today I've nudged them up to 90f - 100r. No reason, really, other than to see if it feels any less comfortable with the higher pressures I think we all used to run.
The tyres are Schwalbe Ultremo 23c with "whatever's cheap when I need some" innertubes. I was last weighed nearly a year ago, but I don't think much has changed. I was 74.2kg then.
The only time I've had a pinch flat on road tyres so far was when I tried to go "gravel racing", chasing after an elusive KOM. 25mph+ over big stones and potholes, and a double pinch flat was the result.
Unless you ride on roads which are billiard smooth, then it's surely got to be comfort.
Bought another bike for wet, summer days; a Trek Domane 2.0, and rode it for the first time and the tyres were rock hard; could feel every vibration from the awful roads. Checked the pressures and they were over 100psi....took air out to about 80-85. Made a huge difference - even more so when i swapped the Bontrager tyres for Challenge Strade Bianchis......
Bought another bike for wet, summer days; a Trek Domane 2.0, and rode it for the first time and the tyres were rock hard; could feel every vibration from the awful roads. Checked the pressures and they were over 100psi....took air out to about 80-85. Made a huge difference - even more so when i swapped the Bontrager tyres for Challenge Strade Bianchis......
ArnageWRC said:
even more so when i swapped the Bontrager tyres for Challenge Strade Bianchis......
That's a good point, tyres can make a huge difference. I swapped from Conti GrandSports to Schwalbe Duranos recently and they feel very 'squishy' in comparison at the same pressure. I've sure even lighter tyres (GP 4000S II?) might give even more.Gassing Station | Pedal Powered | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff