james allison leaves ferrari

james allison leaves ferrari

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deadslow

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223 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Seemed to be on the cards, but what chances for the scuderia now? Where will he eventually surface?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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More to the point, who's going to surface at Ferrari?

Is the red and white chequebook being thrust at a certain A Newey?

cgt2

7,100 posts

188 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Ferrari have been very good to James and he has left for personal reasons, not because he didn't want to be there.

Ferrari deserve credit for allowing him to prioritise his kids, they could quite easily have held him to his contract.

deadslow

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Wednesday 27th July 2016
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I would like to see Newey have a go at Ferrari, but I doubt he would enter the pressure cooker environment of that team.

cgt2

7,100 posts

188 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Let's hope James was far enough advanced with 2017 to leave Ferrari with a decent car next year. History repeats itself, John Barnard left by the time the 1990 car rolled out but it allowed Alain Prost to push for the championship that year.

deadslow

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Wednesday 27th July 2016
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I am sure he has a job anytime he feels ready at Renault. I wonder if R Dennis has his mobile number?

MartG

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204 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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deadslow said:
Where will he eventually surface?
Somewhere near where his family lives

PompeyM3

1,847 posts

205 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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deadslow said:
I am sure he has a job anytime he feels ready at Renault. I wonder if R Dennis has his mobile number?
That would be a great addition for McLaren, but you feel he may end up at Renault.

Given what's happened in his life, I would think his kids are his prime concern currently. Hope it all works out for him whatever he decides.

MartG

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204 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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PompeyM3 said:
deadslow said:
I am sure he has a job anytime he feels ready at Renault. I wonder if R Dennis has his mobile number?
That would be a great addition for McLaren, but you feel he may end up at Renault.

Given what's happened in his life, I would think his kids are his prime concern currently. Hope it all works out for him whatever he decides.
I'd guess he'll be looking for a backroom job at one of the factories rather than one where he'd have to go to the races

Smollet

10,562 posts

190 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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PompeyM3 said:
That would be a great addition for McLaren, but you feel he may end up at Renault.

Given what's happened in his life, I would think his kids are his prime concern currently. Hope it all works out for him whatever he decides.
He has 3 children aged 17,21 and 23 and even though the youngest is still at school it's not as though they will need his daily care. Whatever his reasons I wish him well.

Edited by Smollet on Wednesday 27th July 11:54

LaurasOtherHalf

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196 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Smollet said:
PompeyM3 said:
That would be a great addition for McLaren, but you feel he may end up at Renault.

Given what's happened in his life, I would think his kids are his prime concern currently. Hope it all works out for him whatever he decides.
He has 3 children aged 17,21 and 23 so it's not as though they will need his daily care. Whatever his reasons I wish him well.
I read the same thing on James Allen's website but (and no offence meant to you) I can't believe anyone who has kids would claim that his children ages have nothing to do with his decision. They might not need their arses wiped but you can only begin to imagine the support and care young adults will need following the loss of a parent.

Smollet

10,562 posts

190 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
I read the same thing on James Allen's website but (and no offence meant to you) I can't believe anyone who has kids would claim that his children ages have nothing to do with his decision. They might not need their arses wiped but you can only begin to imagine the support and care young adults will need following the loss of a parent.
Oh I agree completely and I didn't take offence either. Something very rare on PH wink

Dr Z

3,396 posts

171 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Apparently, some engine guy has taken over the TD position in the interim. This season has gone from bad to worse for Ferrari. I remember reading that they were interested in James Key at some point?

cgt2

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188 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Dr Z said:
Apparently, some engine guy has taken over the TD position in the interim. This season has gone from bad to worse for Ferrari. I remember reading that they were interested in James Key at some point?
I'd imagine James Allison was quite far down the line with 2017's car, specifically with aerodynamic efficiency, so the issue won't kick in for 18 months at least.

hairyben

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183 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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deadslow said:
I would like to see Newey have a go at Ferrari, but I doubt he would enter the pressure cooker environment of that team.
My understanding is RB only enticed/retain Newey because of the authority/freedom they allow him compared to other teams. Fez I just can't see happening.

No disrespect to James Allison but there has been speculation for some time while fez have seemed desperate to cling on to him, I wonder if thats really been the best thing for them.

The Hypno-Toad

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205 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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deadslow said:
I would like to see Newey have a go at Ferrari, but I doubt he would enter the pressure cooker environment of that team.
If they haven't tempted him by now & he hasn't taken them up on it, I would be pretty sure that with the Aston Martin project, he won't be going anywhere. I would also imagine that any offer they might have made him in the past would be have basically been the entire candy store.

Which leaves us with the interesting question of who are Ferrari going to get in?

deadslow

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Wednesday 27th July 2016
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The Hypno-Toad said:
deadslow said:
I would like to see Newey have a go at Ferrari, but I doubt he would enter the pressure cooker environment of that team.
If they haven't tempted him by now & he hasn't taken them up on it, I would be pretty sure that with the Aston Martin project, he won't be going anywhere. I would also imagine that any offer they might have made him in the past would be have basically been the entire candy store.

Which leaves us with the interesting question of who are Ferrari going to get in?
You are probably right, but he has worked well with Vettel.

Crafty_

13,284 posts

200 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Which leaves us with the interesting question of who are Ferrari going to get in?
They already appointed Mattia Binotto who until now has been looking after the power unit and electronics

Adrian W

13,870 posts

228 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Considering what happened maybe formula 1 just isn't important to him any more, i don't think I could find much motivation under the circumstances

cgt2

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188 months

Thursday 28th July 2016
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It's quite well known in the racing world that Ferrari has been trying to get Newey for nearly 15 years. I think they even signed a letter of intent back when he was at McLaren but Ron had a watertight contract at the time.

As time has gone on and he has won more championships he doesn't feel the need to throw himself into the cauldron of Ferrari politics. In the Todt/Brawn era it would have been fine as they both did a great job of keeping the bullst out but as soon as they both went it became the same old madhouse. Even a lot of money is not worth the pain for someone as established, wealthy and successful as Newey. He has a lot of autonomy at Red Bull which suits him very well.