Who enjoys their job?
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I was much happier once I got out of project management, it really is just admin and nagging your colleagues to do their job.
I love aspects of my job, mainly working with Subject Matter Experts who are often at the very top of the field. I am working to farm out all the bits I don't like doing.
I love aspects of my job, mainly working with Subject Matter Experts who are often at the very top of the field. I am working to farm out all the bits I don't like doing.
rosbif77 said:
I used to love teaching and everyday my adrenaline was pumping away. That's not the case now.
Every Sunday night i rarely sleep knowing that for the next 5 days i'll have to set the alarm clock for 5.45am and drive 1h15 each morning along A roads choked with lorries, see my colleagues who teach average lessons, get poor results (but play golf with the boss and get pay rises!), teach my lessons well knowing it won't prevent another annual pay cut,( despite my students receiving a 100% pass rate every year, )and with the knowledge that my monthly salary won't cover food/petrol costs for the whole month. By the 3rd week i'll either have to stop eating/driving or dip into my savings!
The positive side is that i get to see my children growing up and they receive a fantastic education.
I suppose you can't have a job that pays the bills/ puts food on the table and allows you to enjoy being with your children.
From a divorced ex pat in France!
No offence mateEvery Sunday night i rarely sleep knowing that for the next 5 days i'll have to set the alarm clock for 5.45am and drive 1h15 each morning along A roads choked with lorries, see my colleagues who teach average lessons, get poor results (but play golf with the boss and get pay rises!), teach my lessons well knowing it won't prevent another annual pay cut,( despite my students receiving a 100% pass rate every year, )and with the knowledge that my monthly salary won't cover food/petrol costs for the whole month. By the 3rd week i'll either have to stop eating/driving or dip into my savings!
The positive side is that i get to see my children growing up and they receive a fantastic education.
I suppose you can't have a job that pays the bills/ puts food on the table and allows you to enjoy being with your children.
From a divorced ex pat in France!
Edited by rosbif77 on Friday 12th August 08:50
But you need to sort your life out - Real talk.
I've lost count of the amount of threads I've seen the last 3 or 4 months with you going on about how much you hate your job yadda yadda and how bad everything is and how stressful it is, and yet for the sake of being able to teach your kids at school you subject yourself to misery.
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. ffs.
rosbif77 said:
I used to love teaching and everyday my adrenaline was pumping away.
What were you teaching? Pron stars? Alligator wrestling? Stunt men? Skydiving with no 'chute?He's right, you really do need to find another job if it does that to you, you'll give yourself a heart attack.
I'm of the opinion that a lot of how much people enjoy their jobs is down to them, not the job.
i.e. if you're the kind of person that hates your job, you'd probably hate any job.
Whatever job my OH does she ends up moaning about.
And yet in future years she'll often reminisce about working in places she used to moan about the whole time when there.
i.e. if you're the kind of person that hates your job, you'd probably hate any job.
Whatever job my OH does she ends up moaning about.
And yet in future years she'll often reminisce about working in places she used to moan about the whole time when there.
Vandenberg said:
I was much happier once I got out of project management, it really is just admin and nagging your colleagues to do their job.
I love aspects of my job, mainly working with Subject Matter Experts who are often at the very top of the field. I am working to farm out all the bits I don't like doing.
Oddly, project management is the area I want to get into!I love aspects of my job, mainly working with Subject Matter Experts who are often at the very top of the field. I am working to farm out all the bits I don't like doing.
Yes, I did enjoy my job even though it can be very demanding at times I've managed to make a difference and it feels rewarding when I did so. However it all went downhill after my old boss left, new management seems to be more interested in looking after their own personal interests rather than getting the job done.
Taking a big gamble moving onto a much smaller company (albeit with much higher pay) but very much looking forward to the new job.
Taking a big gamble moving onto a much smaller company (albeit with much higher pay) but very much looking forward to the new job.
crofty1984 said:
I don't. A lot of the people I work with are nice, but my job description is so vague I end up feeling like I've not achieved anything and wondering when "proving you can do the job above your level" turns into "doing job above your level for your own job title and salary" You could say it's varied and that's a good .thing, but often I struggle to see it that way.
In my last 2 annual appraisals I've asked about promotion. There are noises being made about maybe a half-step this year and maybe an actual promotion next year but i think there's only a 50% chance of that actually happening, knowing my immediate boss.
I'm in the middle really. It's not awful but it's not great either.
Am I being melodramatic and that's just what life is like, or should i expect to enjoy it?
Wow, that's exactly how I feel and that's main reason why I made the move. It's been more than 3 years for me though and at my age 50% chance of something happening just doesn't cut it anymore...In my last 2 annual appraisals I've asked about promotion. There are noises being made about maybe a half-step this year and maybe an actual promotion next year but i think there's only a 50% chance of that actually happening, knowing my immediate boss.
I'm in the middle really. It's not awful but it's not great either.
Am I being melodramatic and that's just what life is like, or should i expect to enjoy it?
On the whole I love what I do although as with anything there are downsides as well.
I am solo musician working for cruise lines. Obviously I am away from home, family and my partner a lot, although she can come to cruise for free with the company I work for the most. I have as part of the job travelled extensively and much of that has been amazing. It would have been difficult to spend time in places such as Hawaii, Alaska, Bermuda and many others with most other lines of work.
The best bit though is that when I have a good crowd, I get the amazing feeling of having a couple of hundred people cheering and clapping for me. That is one hell of a buzz.
I am solo musician working for cruise lines. Obviously I am away from home, family and my partner a lot, although she can come to cruise for free with the company I work for the most. I have as part of the job travelled extensively and much of that has been amazing. It would have been difficult to spend time in places such as Hawaii, Alaska, Bermuda and many others with most other lines of work.
The best bit though is that when I have a good crowd, I get the amazing feeling of having a couple of hundred people cheering and clapping for me. That is one hell of a buzz.
Love my job; surgical trainer.
I will initially teach a surgeon how to use the latest piece of med-tech either on silicon models of the relevant bit of anatomy or we will operate on 'fresh frozen' cadavers that will bleed if one makes a mistake.
I will then be in theatres with the surgeon during his first few live cases until we both agree that the surgeon is signed off and is happy to do the procedure without my support.
I will initially teach a surgeon how to use the latest piece of med-tech either on silicon models of the relevant bit of anatomy or we will operate on 'fresh frozen' cadavers that will bleed if one makes a mistake.
I will then be in theatres with the surgeon during his first few live cases until we both agree that the surgeon is signed off and is happy to do the procedure without my support.
I have worked in IT for ~20 years now. The technology has changed dramatically in that time but the people haven't. The actual hands on job I do is great and I have worked on some fantastic projects where my work has been in daily use by 10,000s of people.
There are some amazing people who work in IT that are an absolute pleasure to work with but the opposite is also true, and for some companies there are far more of the latter than the former. With the mass take up of outsourcing and offshoring due to companies seeking to treat IT as an overhead they'd rather not be paying for, more of the former seem to be around every year.
If IT had forced in a proper professional qualification like a Lawyer or an Accountant early enough then I'm convinced most of the problem would have been nipped in the bud.
There are some amazing people who work in IT that are an absolute pleasure to work with but the opposite is also true, and for some companies there are far more of the latter than the former. With the mass take up of outsourcing and offshoring due to companies seeking to treat IT as an overhead they'd rather not be paying for, more of the former seem to be around every year.
If IT had forced in a proper professional qualification like a Lawyer or an Accountant early enough then I'm convinced most of the problem would have been nipped in the bud.
tankplanker said:
I have worked in IT for ~20 years now. The technology has changed dramatically in that time but the people haven't. The actual hands on job I do is great and I have worked on some fantastic projects where my work has been in daily use by 10,000s of people.
There are some amazing people who work in IT that are an absolute pleasure to work with but the opposite is also true, and for some companies there are far more of the latter than the former. With the mass take up of outsourcing and offshoring due to companies seeking to treat IT as an overhead they'd rather not be paying for, more of the former seem to be around every year.
If IT had forced in a proper professional qualification like a Lawyer or an Accountant early enough then I'm convinced most of the problem would have been nipped in the bud.
I have found that the people who are trained and qualified to do the relevant IT job are usually professional and very good. The people who have found themselves doing something like Business Analyst or SQL maintenance are the ones which are grumpy old mules.There are some amazing people who work in IT that are an absolute pleasure to work with but the opposite is also true, and for some companies there are far more of the latter than the former. With the mass take up of outsourcing and offshoring due to companies seeking to treat IT as an overhead they'd rather not be paying for, more of the former seem to be around every year.
If IT had forced in a proper professional qualification like a Lawyer or an Accountant early enough then I'm convinced most of the problem would have been nipped in the bud.
not wanting to cause any offence BTW.
AndStilliRise said:
I have found that the people who are trained and qualified to do the relevant IT job are usually professional and very good. The people who have found themselves doing something like Business Analyst or SQL maintenance are the ones which are grumpy old mules.
not wanting to cause any offence BTW.
People who can do the job but are jobsworths in the process are a pain, but its those who can't do their actual job (and this is anything from project manager to SQL maintenance person to architect) and are jobsworth or worse that I can't stand, useless on all levels.not wanting to cause any offence BTW.
steveT350C said:
Love my job; surgical trainer.
I will initially teach a surgeon how to use the latest piece of med-tech either on silicon models of the relevant bit of anatomy or we will operate on 'fresh frozen' cadavers that will bleed if one makes a mistake.
I will then be in theatres with the surgeon during his first few live cases until we both agree that the surgeon is signed off and is happy to do the procedure without my support.
OT but have you have any involvement at the robotic surgery theatres as St Mary's hospital, Paddington?I will initially teach a surgeon how to use the latest piece of med-tech either on silicon models of the relevant bit of anatomy or we will operate on 'fresh frozen' cadavers that will bleed if one makes a mistake.
I will then be in theatres with the surgeon during his first few live cases until we both agree that the surgeon is signed off and is happy to do the procedure without my support.
As for this topic, love/hate relationship. Self employed & dipping into various (seemingly) fruitless engineering/tech ventures.
I'm on of these people that if I become stagnant for too long in the same role I need out.
Currently i'm doing something that every 5 minutes is different and dealing with a new scenario - and there are lots of roles to go into in the next year.
The longest I've ever stayed in the same company was 3 years - and I was part time for half of it working 2 jobs! - But that was working my way up to pub manager - and once there realised I hated management and dealing with staff who were only there to pay off their last nights beer tab.
But where I am currently I can see myself for a good few years. So yeah, on the whole i'm pretty happy.
Currently i'm doing something that every 5 minutes is different and dealing with a new scenario - and there are lots of roles to go into in the next year.
The longest I've ever stayed in the same company was 3 years - and I was part time for half of it working 2 jobs! - But that was working my way up to pub manager - and once there realised I hated management and dealing with staff who were only there to pay off their last nights beer tab.
But where I am currently I can see myself for a good few years. So yeah, on the whole i'm pretty happy.
xjay1337 said:
rosbif77 said:
I used to love teaching and everyday my adrenaline was pumping away. That's not the case now.
Every Sunday night i rarely sleep knowing that for the next 5 days i'll have to set the alarm clock for 5.45am and drive 1h15 each morning along A roads choked with lorries, see my colleagues who teach average lessons, get poor results (but play golf with the boss and get pay rises!), teach my lessons well knowing it won't prevent another annual pay cut,( despite my students receiving a 100% pass rate every year, )and with the knowledge that my monthly salary won't cover food/petrol costs for the whole month. By the 3rd week i'll either have to stop eating/driving or dip into my savings!
The positive side is that i get to see my children growing up and they receive a fantastic education.
I suppose you can't have a job that pays the bills/ puts food on the table and allows you to enjoy being with your children.
From a divorced ex pat in France!
No offence mateEvery Sunday night i rarely sleep knowing that for the next 5 days i'll have to set the alarm clock for 5.45am and drive 1h15 each morning along A roads choked with lorries, see my colleagues who teach average lessons, get poor results (but play golf with the boss and get pay rises!), teach my lessons well knowing it won't prevent another annual pay cut,( despite my students receiving a 100% pass rate every year, )and with the knowledge that my monthly salary won't cover food/petrol costs for the whole month. By the 3rd week i'll either have to stop eating/driving or dip into my savings!
The positive side is that i get to see my children growing up and they receive a fantastic education.
I suppose you can't have a job that pays the bills/ puts food on the table and allows you to enjoy being with your children.
From a divorced ex pat in France!
Edited by rosbif77 on Friday 12th August 08:50
But you need to sort your life out - Real talk.
I've lost count of the amount of threads I've seen the last 3 or 4 months with you going on about how much you hate your job yadda yadda and how bad everything is and how stressful it is, and yet for the sake of being able to teach your kids at school you subject yourself to misery.
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. ffs.
...and anyway if my posts get you worked up so much don't read them!
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