Walking out (not working notice period)

[Rich_W]

johnwilliams77 said:

True
They made a right fool of you.

But my old line manager almost certainly believes they have done nothing wrong, and I'm a judas for leaving. And that despite all the evidence to the contrary. Skilled and productive staff (who exceed their targets every single month!*) with over 15 years of experience are easily replaceable at the click of a fingers.

Meh. Their loss. My financial and career gain.

-Id sit in my 6 monthly reviews. And be told time and time again that although I was exceeding my targets, (top 3 EVERY month) that I was wasting time and not doing what I was paid to do. All with a straight face. Whilst there were others not achieving and seemingly that was OK. I do wonder what world people like that live in

ETA : I did 5 years with that company!

Edited by Rich_W on Friday 2nd September 21:00

[hantsxlg]

Unfortunately you can just walk and feck all your current employers can really do about it. Had someone to do it to me. Much nashing of teeth but you cant force asomeone to work for you...

[anonymous-user]

Rich_W said:

Judging from the fact they ignored me for the last 2 weeks and didn't actually say goodbye to on my last day. It seems good terms count for nothing.

I totally agree.

That has been my experience as well. Despite being an employee that was almost never off sick in years, worked hard, worked extra whenever required, constantly received excellent yearly appraisal reports, probably didn't claim for most of the expenses and additional hours that I did... My name was mud as soon as I handed in that notice.

Speaking to employees still at my old office, the management were pissed off that I left and used me as an excuse for anything that went wrong for the next 6 months after I had gone.

I'm my experience, you can pour everything you have into a job but when the company suddenly has its back up against a wall and needs to 'restructure', shuffle staff about, change staff job titles, save money or whatever, you will suddenly become just a payslip number and just as disposable as anyone else.

[Shirt587]

I had a really interesting conversation with our CFO the other day ('skip-level meetings' are the new thing round here, apparently). He said he was amazed that employees feel loyalty to companies, given that the company will show absolutely no loyalty to them. You may feel loyalty to certain individuals, but most of the time they're not actually the people paying you at the end of the month.

[anonymous-user]

irocfan said:

what happened with the OP?

He was posting on other forums yesterday so maybe this thread just didn't go the way he expected

[Rude-boy]

Shirt587 said:

I had a really interesting conversation with our CFO the other day ('skip-level meetings' are the new thing round here, apparently). He said he was amazed that employees feel loyalty to companies, given that the company will show absolutely no loyalty to them. You may feel loyalty to certain individuals, but most of the time they're not actually the people paying you at the end of the month.

I would love to ask your CFO how he thinks that his company would fare if all the employees were as disloyal as he perceives the company he is working for to be.

I also wonder what would happen if the employees knew his true feelings.

[Neil H]

anonymous said:

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Completely agree, and having been in that situation I would have no hesitation in leaving a role immediately if I had to. I would not go out of my way to do it, but if I had to I wouldn't think twice. Loyalty counts for nothing.

[anonymous-user]

Neil H said:

I would not go out of my way to do it, but if I had to I wouldn't think twice. Loyalty counts for nothing.

And that attitude from some employees is exactly why some employers feel the way they do about their staff.

Go the extra mile for me and I'll reward you, but don't whine that you get overlooked for promotion or pay increases if you think loyalty counts for nothing.

[Neil H]

CoinSl0t said:

And that attitude from some employees is exactly why some employers feel the way they do about their staff.

Go the extra mile for me and I'll reward you, but don't whine that you get overlooked for promotion or pay increases if you think loyalty counts for nothing.

We're specifically talking about not working a notice period, so unless you reward staff for working their notice period your post doesn't make a lot of sense.

[irocfan]

CoinSl0t said:

And that attitude from some employees is exactly why some employers feel the way they do about their staff.

Go the extra mile for me and I'll reward you, but don't whine that you get overlooked for promotion or pay increases if you think loyalty counts for nothing.

the thing is though that loyalty is a two way street. We ahve over the last 15 years been getting back to that place where the employee is nothing more than a resource rather than a person...

[anonymous-user]

Neil H said:

We're specifically talking about not working a notice period, so unless you reward staff for working their notice period your post doesn't make a lot of sense.

Yes, a member of staff gets rewarded for working their notice period, they get paid what they are owed and will get a reference.

I'm contractually obliged to give my employees notice and I expect the same in return, you obviously don't think the same?

Perhaps one day as an employer you'll see the other side of the coin?

[anonymous-user]

irocfan said:

the thing is though that loyalty is a two way street. We ahve over the last 15 years been getting back to that place where the employee is nothing more than a resource rather than a person...

Not in my industry, good staff are an asset and treated accordingly.