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I moved to Aus 9 years ago. I tried applying for jobs before I left the UK but didn't get anywhere. It wasn't until I got here and was able to turn up at an agency or to an interview that I started getting any traction.
You might need to bite the bullet and just move back. Could you stay with friends or family while you look for work?
Think of it like this: if you were looking for someone and had a choice of Joe from Essex who could turn up for an interview tomorrow and start on Monday, or Mike from overseas who you'd have to phone in the middle of the night, and who couldn't start for a bit while he sorted out moving back, and who you wouldn't meet in person until he turned up on his first day, who would you choose? It isn't anything to do with your experience or suitability, it is human nature to put you in the "too hard" basket because you aren't there. That can be really hard to overcome.
Good luck. I hope you sort something out.
You might need to bite the bullet and just move back. Could you stay with friends or family while you look for work?
Think of it like this: if you were looking for someone and had a choice of Joe from Essex who could turn up for an interview tomorrow and start on Monday, or Mike from overseas who you'd have to phone in the middle of the night, and who couldn't start for a bit while he sorted out moving back, and who you wouldn't meet in person until he turned up on his first day, who would you choose? It isn't anything to do with your experience or suitability, it is human nature to put you in the "too hard" basket because you aren't there. That can be really hard to overcome.
Good luck. I hope you sort something out.
I used to work in recruitment many many years ago. One of the worst jobs I've done, but that's another story.
When we used to get in first thing, there'd be a raft of CVs come through from the job ads we'd posted the night before and earlier in the week. 9/10 of them would be binned straight away - wrong skills and wrong location. I was trying to recruit C/C++ techs for £40-£60k jobs mostly around the London area. As soon as anyone from the US came onto the grid, or from the middle/far East, I deleted them. Company Policy.
There was no point trying to get into a conversation with someone 5-8 hours ahead or behind you on timezone who wouldnt be able to go to an interview I needed to arrange to hit my stats for the week. Phone interviews didnt count, bums on seats hit my quota for interviews. I needed to do 10 a week minimum. From that I'd probably get 3-4 second interiews and 1 offer.
If you're reliant on agencies, unless you're high level, they probably wont talk to you. You cant make any commitments as to where you'll be at a specific time, you're not easily contactable and they cant shoehorn you into a 1 hour slot for a prelim tomorrow and have you call in sick.
If I was you, I'd leave location off my CV completely and that will change the amount of bites you get. Companies will need a lot of convincing that you're going to come back just for their job on a 6 month probation for normal jobs on a weeks notice, and you're going to spend what, £5k of your own money doing it?
(ETA) I just re-read your post, and I cant tell whether you're mid career unskilled or management. For mid-level, I think you probably need to be in the line with the other 2231 applicants who're round the corner from the job. I get that you cant be here til you've got a job, and you cant get a job until you here creates a chicken/egg problem, maybe try narrowing down an area, a plan and something you can put together to show people. It sounds a bit 'I'll DO EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING' at the moment, and companies want scalpels more than hammers
When we used to get in first thing, there'd be a raft of CVs come through from the job ads we'd posted the night before and earlier in the week. 9/10 of them would be binned straight away - wrong skills and wrong location. I was trying to recruit C/C++ techs for £40-£60k jobs mostly around the London area. As soon as anyone from the US came onto the grid, or from the middle/far East, I deleted them. Company Policy.
There was no point trying to get into a conversation with someone 5-8 hours ahead or behind you on timezone who wouldnt be able to go to an interview I needed to arrange to hit my stats for the week. Phone interviews didnt count, bums on seats hit my quota for interviews. I needed to do 10 a week minimum. From that I'd probably get 3-4 second interiews and 1 offer.
If you're reliant on agencies, unless you're high level, they probably wont talk to you. You cant make any commitments as to where you'll be at a specific time, you're not easily contactable and they cant shoehorn you into a 1 hour slot for a prelim tomorrow and have you call in sick.
If I was you, I'd leave location off my CV completely and that will change the amount of bites you get. Companies will need a lot of convincing that you're going to come back just for their job on a 6 month probation for normal jobs on a weeks notice, and you're going to spend what, £5k of your own money doing it?
(ETA) I just re-read your post, and I cant tell whether you're mid career unskilled or management. For mid-level, I think you probably need to be in the line with the other 2231 applicants who're round the corner from the job. I get that you cant be here til you've got a job, and you cant get a job until you here creates a chicken/egg problem, maybe try narrowing down an area, a plan and something you can put together to show people. It sounds a bit 'I'll DO EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING' at the moment, and companies want scalpels more than hammers
Edited by andy-xr on Friday 26th August 10:32
Most of the issues have been covered.
In simple terms; if you want to secure a decent role you will need to be here to make the best of it. When submitting a CV with cover letter at the moment you will of course be showing your current address and employer so it's difficult to disguise, thus you are unlikely to get any decent nibbles.
In the meantime, I'd be more than happy to scan your CV to assess its impact.
Good luck!
In simple terms; if you want to secure a decent role you will need to be here to make the best of it. When submitting a CV with cover letter at the moment you will of course be showing your current address and employer so it's difficult to disguise, thus you are unlikely to get any decent nibbles.
In the meantime, I'd be more than happy to scan your CV to assess its impact.
Good luck!
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