Leaving a job I have just started
Discussion
21TonyK said:
Get a formal meeting with the HT and explain as per your original post. They can always get supply in to start the term, it's really not the end of the world for the school.
You might not think it will do you much good in terms of reputation but being decisive and taking action that is in the schools (and your) best interest is not a bad thing. Being appointed without interview or assessment shows a degree of desperation on the schools part.
I'm not a "teacher" but I do work in a school and I see the stresses and strains from early years right through to FE. As an NQT you need support and someone to guide you through the job. Not be thrown in at the deep end when the water is choppy!
I'd take your time until the right job comes along. Teaching is a long career path and getting the right start is important.
You might not think it will do you much good in terms of reputation but being decisive and taking action that is in the schools (and your) best interest is not a bad thing. Being appointed without interview or assessment shows a degree of desperation on the schools part.
I'm not a "teacher" but I do work in a school and I see the stresses and strains from early years right through to FE. As an NQT you need support and someone to guide you through the job. Not be thrown in at the deep end when the water is choppy!
I'd take your time until the right job comes along. Teaching is a long career path and getting the right start is important.
Joey Ramone said:
Not really. I'm senior faculty at a top university. I teach almost exclusively at masters level and above, and because of the nature of the courses that I teach my students are all highly intelligent, often quite abrasive senior level individuals, often with around 20 years experience in the fields of defence and security. I am expected to continually publish world class research, design and run courses, and of course lecture in front of audiences of hundreds on a regular basis.
I also suffer from depression and anxiety, and underwent a very painful breakdown a couple of years ago when I was on furlough, some of the symptoms of which are still with me.
I manage fine. I just make sure I don't put myself in a position where those symptoms will be exacerbated, that's all.
These are the sensible replies.I also suffer from depression and anxiety, and underwent a very painful breakdown a couple of years ago when I was on furlough, some of the symptoms of which are still with me.
I manage fine. I just make sure I don't put myself in a position where those symptoms will be exacerbated, that's all.
Think carefully about what you want to do, and the best way of looking after your own health and longer term career.
A chat with your headteacher, sharing your worries, might be useful, depending on what kind of person they are.
You should also make sure you're in one of the unions, although I'm sure you know that. They can also provide decent advice, if you find the right person.
joshleb said:
My partners sister just completed her NQT teaching a pretty rough year 6 class, and it was tough, but she is now looking forward to the challenge again this year and recognises that the tough experiences put her in a better position to overcome challenges in the future.
So whilst it's not the ideal situation for you, with a lot of work needed over the next few days to plan everything, there are so many resources online and help you can ask for for it to not be as bad as you're expecting.
Sorry if I've missed where you said it, but what year will you be teaching?
Year 3. Not my comfort zone! So whilst it's not the ideal situation for you, with a lot of work needed over the next few days to plan everything, there are so many resources online and help you can ask for for it to not be as bad as you're expecting.
Sorry if I've missed where you said it, but what year will you be teaching?
Edited to remove details that might link to the school.
Edited by scrubchub on Sunday 4th September 11:00
N Dentressangle said:
21TonyK said:
Get a formal meeting with the HT and explain as per your original post. They can always get supply in to start the term, it's really not the end of the world for the school.
You might not think it will do you much good in terms of reputation but being decisive and taking action that is in the schools (and your) best interest is not a bad thing. Being appointed without interview or assessment shows a degree of desperation on the schools part.
I'm not a "teacher" but I do work in a school and I see the stresses and strains from early years right through to FE. As an NQT you need support and someone to guide you through the job. Not be thrown in at the deep end when the water is choppy!
I'd take your time until the right job comes along. Teaching is a long career path and getting the right start is important.
You might not think it will do you much good in terms of reputation but being decisive and taking action that is in the schools (and your) best interest is not a bad thing. Being appointed without interview or assessment shows a degree of desperation on the schools part.
I'm not a "teacher" but I do work in a school and I see the stresses and strains from early years right through to FE. As an NQT you need support and someone to guide you through the job. Not be thrown in at the deep end when the water is choppy!
I'd take your time until the right job comes along. Teaching is a long career path and getting the right start is important.
Joey Ramone said:
Not really. I'm senior faculty at a top university. I teach almost exclusively at masters level and above, and because of the nature of the courses that I teach my students are all highly intelligent, often quite abrasive senior level individuals, often with around 20 years experience in the fields of defence and security. I am expected to continually publish world class research, design and run courses, and of course lecture in front of audiences of hundreds on a regular basis.
I also suffer from depression and anxiety, and underwent a very painful breakdown a couple of years ago when I was on furlough, some of the symptoms of which are still with me.
I manage fine. I just make sure I don't put myself in a position where those symptoms will be exacerbated, that's all.
These are the sensible replies.I also suffer from depression and anxiety, and underwent a very painful breakdown a couple of years ago when I was on furlough, some of the symptoms of which are still with me.
I manage fine. I just make sure I don't put myself in a position where those symptoms will be exacerbated, that's all.
Think carefully about what you want to do, and the best way of looking after your own health and longer term career.
A chat with your headteacher, sharing your worries, might be useful, depending on what kind of person they are.
You should also make sure you're in one of the unions, although I'm sure you know that. They can also provide decent advice, if you find the right person.
Those who have been a little more personal, questioning "what I'm made of", thanks for the input, as I said, I can take it and I certainly won't be starting an argument on the internet because I can't take a dig! I certainly know how this might come across to some people and that it could appear flaky and weak.
The fact of it as I see it is that both parties went into things without the due diligence to see if it was a good fit, and I'm just worried that is the problem. I don't want to end up quitting the profession (like so many others do) because of a bad choice in my first job. If it is the wrong career then I want to find that out in the right school, if you get my meaning.
Speaking also as a teacher, I would stick it out. It's only one term which will pass much quicker than you think. Is it one form entry? As if not you will have other Year 3 teachers to plan and prepare with. You will definitely get an extra morning/afternoon out of class on top of your ppa as you are nqt. This will help.
I started my teaching career in Year 3 and did 4 years in that year group in total. If you would like any planning advice or resources feel free to pm me, there's so much out there that the actual planning isn't that difficult. Ensuring you build a positive relationship with the class (and gain support/trust from parents) is the important part, and it sounds like you'll do well at that.
I personally wouldn't pull out at this stage as I would be worried about the impact on my future teaching career. Plus I think you only get so long to complete your nqt year?
Whatever you decide, good luck.
I started my teaching career in Year 3 and did 4 years in that year group in total. If you would like any planning advice or resources feel free to pm me, there's so much out there that the actual planning isn't that difficult. Ensuring you build a positive relationship with the class (and gain support/trust from parents) is the important part, and it sounds like you'll do well at that.
I personally wouldn't pull out at this stage as I would be worried about the impact on my future teaching career. Plus I think you only get so long to complete your nqt year?
Whatever you decide, good luck.
The Char said:
Speaking also as a teacher, I would stick it out. It's only one term which will pass much quicker than you think. Is it one form entry? As if not you will have other Year 3 teachers to plan and prepare with. You will definitely get an extra morning/afternoon out of class on top of your ppa as you are nqt. This will help.
I started my teaching career in Year 3 and did 4 years in that year group in total. If you would like any planning advice or resources feel free to pm me, there's so much out there that the actual planning isn't that difficult. Ensuring you build a positive relationship with the class (and gain support/trust from parents) is the important part, and it sounds like you'll do well at that.
I personally wouldn't pull out at this stage as I would be worried about the impact on my future teaching career. Plus I think you only get so long to complete your nqt year?
Whatever you decide, good luck.
Yes, it is one class per year so no other teachers in my year. You get 5 years to do your NQT year (I think that as long as you are in a position at the end of those 5 years then you are fine), so no great rush for it but it is something that is on my mind.I started my teaching career in Year 3 and did 4 years in that year group in total. If you would like any planning advice or resources feel free to pm me, there's so much out there that the actual planning isn't that difficult. Ensuring you build a positive relationship with the class (and gain support/trust from parents) is the important part, and it sounds like you'll do well at that.
I personally wouldn't pull out at this stage as I would be worried about the impact on my future teaching career. Plus I think you only get so long to complete your nqt year?
Whatever you decide, good luck.
Thanks for the offer on resources, I may take you up on it! The planning and record keeping in these school is peculiar - far more in depth than any school I've been in so far. There are 7 sessions before lunch(!) all of which need to be planned for. No textbooks either in the school. And there isn't a scheme of work for English either, which is peculiar I think. I'm still sorting out Monday, god knows when I'll get to planning for Tuesday and Wednesday etc!
Don't worry my new schools way of keeping records and assessment is much different than what I'm used to.
Don't panic you can't be perfect on your first day. Just set achievable goals. There will be supporst for you in school.
Speak to your NQT coordinator or even the head.
Start with getting your lessons planned for this week....that's what I'm currently doing......as well as writing my departments GCSEs result analysis to discuss with the head and governors later this week.....with 2 under 4's going mad and watching the action from Monza!
Don't panic you can't be perfect on your first day. Just set achievable goals. There will be supporst for you in school.
Speak to your NQT coordinator or even the head.
Start with getting your lessons planned for this week....that's what I'm currently doing......as well as writing my departments GCSEs result analysis to discuss with the head and governors later this week.....with 2 under 4's going mad and watching the action from Monza!
Edited by Simes205 on Sunday 4th September 12:58
The Char said:
Speaking also as a teacher, I would stick it out. It's only one term which will pass much quicker than you think. Is it one form entry? As if not you will have other Year 3 teachers to plan and prepare with. You will definitely get an extra morning/afternoon out of class on top of your ppa as you are nqt. This will help.
I started my teaching career in Year 3 and did 4 years in that year group in total. If you would like any planning advice or resources feel free to pm me, there's so much out there that the actual planning isn't that difficult. Ensuring you build a positive relationship with the class (and gain support/trust from parents) is the important part, and it sounds like you'll do well at that.
I personally wouldn't pull out at this stage as I would be worried about the impact on my future teaching career. Plus I think you only get so long to complete your nqt year?
Whatever you decide, good luck.
This.I started my teaching career in Year 3 and did 4 years in that year group in total. If you would like any planning advice or resources feel free to pm me, there's so much out there that the actual planning isn't that difficult. Ensuring you build a positive relationship with the class (and gain support/trust from parents) is the important part, and it sounds like you'll do well at that.
I personally wouldn't pull out at this stage as I would be worried about the impact on my future teaching career. Plus I think you only get so long to complete your nqt year?
Whatever you decide, good luck.
Just grab the bull by the horns. What is the worst that will happen? The contract doesn't get renewed? Well, at least you have the experience under your belt.
V8mate said:
Definitely.
I got as far as 'I am a Newly Qualified Teacher (NQT) and this is my first proper teaching job.' and thought well, grasp the challenge and use it as an opportunity to really show what you're made of.
Then I read what the OP is made of.
Without some form of corrective action in their life, I think they'll struggle in any job.
Harsh but fair!I got as far as 'I am a Newly Qualified Teacher (NQT) and this is my first proper teaching job.' and thought well, grasp the challenge and use it as an opportunity to really show what you're made of.
Then I read what the OP is made of.
Without some form of corrective action in their life, I think they'll struggle in any job.
Hoofy said:
Just grab the bull by the horns. What is the worst that will happen? The contract doesn't get renewed? Well, at least you have the experience under your belt.
Not really - rushed/non existant application process and it turns out the job is not what I was expecting and I don't think taking a sizeable chunk out of my pay each month is worth it. I certainly know it doesn't cover me in glory, hence the post in the first place and I'm certainly not making any decision lightly. If you think that means I am going to struggle in any job without "corrective action in my life" then so be it but it is one hell of a jump to make. I've never been out of employment in one form or another so I know that statement to be demonstrably untrue. I won't spend too much time defending myself in that way to be honest.V8mate said:
Definitely.
I got as far as 'I am a Newly Qualified Teacher (NQT) and this is my first proper teaching job.' and thought well, grasp the challenge and use it as an opportunity to really show what you're made of.
Then I read what the OP is made of.
Without some form of corrective action in their life, I think they'll struggle in any job.
Harsh but fair!I got as far as 'I am a Newly Qualified Teacher (NQT) and this is my first proper teaching job.' and thought well, grasp the challenge and use it as an opportunity to really show what you're made of.
Then I read what the OP is made of.
Without some form of corrective action in their life, I think they'll struggle in any job.
OP IMHO you shouldn't quit. Lay your cards on the table with the HT by all means and cover your arse in writing. Explain you need support (is there any possibility that teacher who is on sick leave might let you have their lesson plans). Also no point worrying about something that might never happen i.e. The inspection could get delayed, postponed etc Might the HT be able to have the observation carried out by another teacher - it doesn't seem fair on you I have to say.
Rather than have a stain on your record and potentially harm your reputation can I try and get you to see this from a different perspective? Imagine the confidence/kudos/sense of achievement you'll get if you navigate the next 4 months with say even 80% of what you hoped for or expected. It will stand you in good stead for any future roles. Presumably you went into teaching for a reason rather than purely for the money.
It is daunting but ask for support and get through it I reckon you'll be glad you saw it through. Please keep us posted.
Rather than have a stain on your record and potentially harm your reputation can I try and get you to see this from a different perspective? Imagine the confidence/kudos/sense of achievement you'll get if you navigate the next 4 months with say even 80% of what you hoped for or expected. It will stand you in good stead for any future roles. Presumably you went into teaching for a reason rather than purely for the money.
It is daunting but ask for support and get through it I reckon you'll be glad you saw it through. Please keep us posted.
Please don't fret about the inspection.
You're an NQT, anyway Ofsted don't grade your lessons anymore, they just love books.
Just be prepared.
There is nothing to worry about.
How can they worry about last years books, they aren't yours. Do your best.
Sounds like someone in your school is scaremongering. Do the best you can and ignore them.
You're an NQT, anyway Ofsted don't grade your lessons anymore, they just love books.
Just be prepared.
There is nothing to worry about.
How can they worry about last years books, they aren't yours. Do your best.
Sounds like someone in your school is scaremongering. Do the best you can and ignore them.
scrubchub said:
First week done. School inspection is definitely happening before half term! Not ideal but the earlier it is the more they will concentrate on last years books (or so I've been told).
I case no one else says it:Well done! I hope there is a minor sense of achievement. Approx 1down and ten to go with holidays, hopefully doesn't seem so bad nowCanAm said:
I hope the posters on this thread who don't know the difference between metal and mettle aren't teachers. 
I had a teacher who would write that he had a "pension" for various things. Turns out it wasn't retirement planning, he was just a bit thick. I suppose I should have shown one of his notes to the French master ... I think you quite often find in life that things you initially fear don't turn out as bad in reality as you first thought they might.
You've done the first week so just regard it as a challenge and stick with it if you possibly can.
This could just be the making of a newer and more confident you.
Good luck !
You've done the first week so just regard it as a challenge and stick with it if you possibly can.
This could just be the making of a newer and more confident you.
Good luck !
Flooble said:
CanAm said:
I hope the posters on this thread who don't know the difference between metal and mettle aren't teachers.
I had a teacher who would write that he had a "pension" for various things. Turns out it wasn't retirement planning, he was just a bit thick. I suppose I should have shown one of his notes to the French master ... scrubchub said:
School inspection is definitely happening before half term! Not ideal but the earlier it is the more they will concentrate on last years books (or so I've been told).
It's really not your problem, you have been in the job a week. You just need to do your best and listen to any advice you are given about what the inspectors are looking for in advance.You are a primary school teacher, not designing a nuclear reactor containment system. I think you just need to relax a little bit.
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